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Thread started 04/29/09 6:20am

MrSoulpower

Soul single becomes the most expensive record in history!

It was already quite a shock when Northern Soul DJ Kenny Burrell from Scotland bought one of the only two known existing copies of Frank Wilson's Do I love you for 15,000 GBP ($22,000) in 1997. The record was released on Motown's subsidiary Soul and initially six promo copies were pressed.

But now the other copy is being auctioned by record dealer John Manship. The current bid is at 24,735 GBP ($37,000), already making it the most expensive record of all times. It might sell for as much as $50,000 when the auction is done. razz

And no, I'm not the highest bidder. I dropped out below the minimum bid. biggrin

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Reply #1 posted 04/29/09 7:05am

IAintTheOne

MrSoulpower said:

It was already quite a shock when Northern Soul DJ Kenny Burrell from Scotland bought one of the only two known existing copies of Frank Wilson's Do I love you for 15,000 GBP ($22,000) in 1997. The record was released on Motown's subsidiary Soul and initially six promo copies were pressed.

But now the other copy is being auctioned by record dealer John Manship. The current bid is at 24,735 GBP ($37,000), already making it the most expensive record of all times. It might sell for as much as $50,000 when the auction is done. razz

And no, I'm not the highest bidder. I dropped out below the minimum bid. biggrin




I thought you would've owned this on some kind of re-ish smile Good rec.. no great record but there are decently priced boots of this 45 smile
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Reply #2 posted 04/29/09 7:07am

Cinnie

I was watching that auction!

Amazing biggrin

That song can be heard cheaply on some compilations, and it is a gem. smile
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Reply #3 posted 04/29/09 7:08am

IAintTheOne

Cinnie said:

I was watching that auction!

Amazing biggrin

That song can be heard cheaply on some compilations, and it is a gem. smile



It's a fantastic record. it'll make it's way to the 45 box on a boot of course but still nice record to have in the box smile
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Reply #4 posted 04/29/09 7:11am

Cinnie

I read that once Frank Wilson confessed to Berry Gordy that his main interest was in being a producer, that's when the pressings stopped
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Reply #5 posted 04/29/09 7:15am

IAintTheOne

Cinnie said:

I read that once Frank Wilson confessed to Berry Gordy that his main interest was in being a producer, that's when the pressings stopped


Yup from what I understand he ended up as an inhouse writer and producer for Motown. What's funny is cats like "Hutch and Bristol" both great writers and producers recorded for Motown. then again with Bristol I think he only wrote and produced and I could be wrong that he actually released something on Motown.
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Reply #6 posted 04/29/09 7:21am

Cinnie

IAintTheOne said:

Cinnie said:

I read that once Frank Wilson confessed to Berry Gordy that his main interest was in being a producer, that's when the pressings stopped


Yup from what I understand he ended up as an inhouse writer and producer for Motown. What's funny is cats like "Hutch and Bristol" both great writers and producers recorded for Motown. then again with Bristol I think he only wrote and produced and I could be wrong that he actually released something on Motown.


haha good call.
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Reply #7 posted 04/29/09 7:24am

IAintTheOne

Cinnie said:

IAintTheOne said:



Yup from what I understand he ended up as an inhouse writer and producer for Motown. What's funny is cats like "Hutch and Bristol" both great writers and producers recorded for Motown. then again with Bristol I think he only wrote and produced and I could be wrong that he actually released something on Motown.


haha good call.



Hey I can be wrong you know smile
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Reply #8 posted 04/29/09 8:21am

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Cinnie said:

I was watching that auction!

Amazing biggrin

That song can be heard cheaply on some compilations, and it is a gem. smile

Sounds like a good song. Wonder if the people bidding actually care about the song at all. I mean, they won't be playing the actual disc, I hope.
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Reply #9 posted 04/29/09 8:35am

MrSoulpower

IAintTheOne said:

M


I thought you would've owned this on some kind of re-ish smile Good rec.. no great record but there are decently priced boots of this 45 smile
[Edited 4/29/09 7:05am]


I thought you'd know by now that I don't do reissues. I'm a vinyl Nazi with an obsession for original pressings. biggrin But for this one, I may re-consider, just to have it. Usually, I dig as long as I find the original, but with this release, I would dig for the rest of my life. smile But if you play this release as a boot at a Soul party, other DJs will dis you. Because this record is sacred and should only be played as original.
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Reply #10 posted 04/29/09 8:37am

MrSoulpower

VinnyM27 said:

Cinnie said:

I was watching that auction!

Amazing biggrin

That song can be heard cheaply on some compilations, and it is a gem. smile

Sounds like a good song. Wonder if the people bidding actually care about the song at all. I mean, they won't be playing the actual disc, I hope.



I do play my original pressings. That's part of the fun. I'm just really careful with them. I usually bring my own needles when I play my rarest records, and I certainly won't scratch.

People ask me a lot why I don't scratch when I DJ. That's why. lol
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Reply #11 posted 04/29/09 9:08am

Cinnie

*crab scratching your copy of "Hung - Up"*
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Reply #12 posted 04/29/09 9:10am

MrSoulpower

Cinnie said:

*crab scratching your copy of "Hung - Up"*


falloff That would be like throwing away two mortgage payments.
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Reply #13 posted 04/29/09 11:12am

IAintTheOne

MrSoulpower said:

IAintTheOne said:

M


I thought you would've owned this on some kind of re-ish smile Good rec.. no great record but there are decently priced boots of this 45 smile
[Edited 4/29/09 7:05am]


I thought you'd know by now that I don't do reissues. I'm a vinyl Nazi with an obsession for original pressings. biggrin But for this one, I may re-consider, just to have it. Usually, I dig as long as I find the original, but with this release, I would dig for the rest of my life. smile But if you play this release as a boot at a Soul party, other DJs will dis you. Because this record is sacred and should only be played as original.



I could think of better things to do with that kind of cash
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Reply #14 posted 04/29/09 12:01pm

Cinnie

MrSoulpower said:

I thought you'd know by now that I don't do reissues. I'm a vinyl Nazi with an obsession for original pressings. biggrin But for this one, I may re-consider, just to have it. Usually, I dig as long as I find the original, but with this release, I would dig for the rest of my life. smile But if you play this release as a boot at a Soul party, other DJs will dis you. Because this record is sacred and should only be played as original.


That's too bad because certain songs I just want to hear regardless of their rarity. I learned my lesson playing Skull Snaps at a HOUSE PARTY. Damn, who thought you'd find haters while rockin' a house party. lol!
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Reply #15 posted 04/29/09 12:20pm

MrSoulpower

Cinnie said:

MrSoulpower said:

I thought you'd know by now that I don't do reissues. I'm a vinyl Nazi with an obsession for original pressings. biggrin But for this one, I may re-consider, just to have it. Usually, I dig as long as I find the original, but with this release, I would dig for the rest of my life. smile But if you play this release as a boot at a Soul party, other DJs will dis you. Because this record is sacred and should only be played as original.


That's too bad because certain songs I just want to hear regardless of their rarity. I learned my lesson playing Skull Snaps at a HOUSE PARTY. Damn, who thought you'd find haters while rockin' a house party. lol!
[Edited 4/29/09 12:02pm]


I agree, but the reality is different. As you may know, the global soul/Funk scene is pretty small. There are maybe two dozen DJs who travel and DJ globally. All know each other. If I started playing re-issues, the word would travel faster than I could. lol I'm already somewhat and outsider in the scene because I don't spend my days and nights on Funk message boards and because I don't really give a rat's ass if a record is rare or not. I play what I think is good and what I think few have heard before.

The problem with re-issues is that 1. anyone can have them, which makes them not special, and 2. the song is already well known in the scene. A good Soul or Funk DJ actually discovers records ... and surprises other DJs and collectors. You're right, most dancers on the floor don't know and don't care about the difference. But the promoters and DJs do, and they determine if you're worth the money to be flown in and paid for your gig or not.
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Reply #16 posted 04/29/09 12:21pm

MrSoulpower

IAintTheOne said:

MrSoulpower said:



I thought you'd know by now that I don't do reissues. I'm a vinyl Nazi with an obsession for original pressings. biggrin But for this one, I may re-consider, just to have it. Usually, I dig as long as I find the original, but with this release, I would dig for the rest of my life. smile But if you play this release as a boot at a Soul party, other DJs will dis you. Because this record is sacred and should only be played as original.



I could think of better things to do with that kind of cash


With $50k - yes. I'd be able to buy at least 200 rare records on my wantlist. lol
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Reply #17 posted 04/29/09 12:53pm

Cinnie

MrSoulpower said:

Cinnie said:



That's too bad because certain songs I just want to hear regardless of their rarity. I learned my lesson playing Skull Snaps at a HOUSE PARTY. Damn, who thought you'd find haters while rockin' a house party. lol!
[Edited 4/29/09 12:02pm]


I agree, but the reality is different. As you may know, the global soul/Funk scene is pretty small. There are maybe two dozen DJs who travel and DJ globally. All know each other. If I started playing re-issues, the word would travel faster than I could. lol I'm already somewhat and outsider in the scene because I don't spend my days and nights on Funk message boards and because I don't really give a rat's ass if a record is rare or not. I play what I think is good and what I think few have heard before.

The problem with re-issues is that 1. anyone can have them, which makes them not special, and 2. the song is already well known in the scene. A good Soul or Funk DJ actually discovers records ... and surprises other DJs and collectors. You're right, most dancers on the floor don't know and don't care about the difference. But the promoters and DJs do, and they determine if you're worth the money to be flown in and paid for your gig or not.


That puts it all into perspective smile
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Reply #18 posted 04/29/09 1:01pm

MrSoulpower

Cinnie said:

MrSoulpower said:



I agree, but the reality is different. As you may know, the global soul/Funk scene is pretty small. There are maybe two dozen DJs who travel and DJ globally. All know each other. If I started playing re-issues, the word would travel faster than I could. lol I'm already somewhat and outsider in the scene because I don't spend my days and nights on Funk message boards and because I don't really give a rat's ass if a record is rare or not. I play what I think is good and what I think few have heard before.

The problem with re-issues is that 1. anyone can have them, which makes them not special, and 2. the song is already well known in the scene. A good Soul or Funk DJ actually discovers records ... and surprises other DJs and collectors. You're right, most dancers on the floor don't know and don't care about the difference. But the promoters and DJs do, and they determine if you're worth the money to be flown in and paid for your gig or not.


That puts it all into perspective smile


Yeah, if a job depends on it, it's easy to understand. For local club Djs and collectors, re-issues are fine. I got a few of songs that I just never found, but I just never play them.
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Reply #19 posted 04/29/09 5:36pm

IAintTheOne

MrSoulpower said:

IAintTheOne said:




I could think of better things to do with that kind of cash


With $50k - yes. I'd be able to buy at least 200 rare records on my wantlist. lol



Lmao I feel ya
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