lastdecember said:

Um. Yes, they take money from media outlets, because media outlets are their customers.. That's who they compile the information for and SELL IT TO: tv stations, radio stations, record labels. Those media outlets are only invested in the Nielsen Company as paying customers. They provide an independent data collection service, for which the media outlets pay money to access. They are only "investors" in the same sense that you are an "investor" in Teen Beat or whatever magazine it is you subscribe to to get your first-hand info about Nicole and Cassie from.

The situation YOU are describing is labels buying off retail chains to order more of their product in order to get higher Soundscan numbers.

You're so wrong about so much it's hard to imagine you ever being right about anything. And you consider yourself the insider...

errant said:

Ok dude whatever you say, believe in what others tell you about Soundscam. Its a game, a ratings game going to who pays the most to push their product up the charts at that time, everyone is in bed together, iTunes,the labels,soundscam,etc...just believe what you are told, because it must be true. As for Cassie, well search this forum and see that NONE of the threads on her are started by me...interesting huh? you didnt point that out at all, guess you didnt search. Beleive what you want about soundscan and i will believe what i want, its that simple, your sources are just as valuable as mine, i dealt with buyers that were in with labels that dealt directly with soundscan and numbers and reporting and NOT reporting certain things, you can say its not true, hey its a free country, just like i can say soundscan is a total fucking joke because it doesnt track all outlets, how is that being accurate when you leave out sources. Well thats enough of this bullshit.

Now back to ciara and her slutty ways.
I want to see her stretch those long legs
up and down some, shake that ass, and
make those puppies bounce.

artist should go back to selling CDs out the trunk of their hoopties

DesireeNevermind said:

People still do that, lol.

DesireeNevermind said:

I wish, but we'd have soo many mofos over-pricing their shit or maybe even going to jail for tax evasion (you know some of them wouldn't pay their taxes). Not to mention that they wouldn't get to brag about being Number 1 on the charts because Soundscan and Billboard wouldn't agree to acknowledge the sales; like they tried to do to Prince when he was giving away the 'Musicology' album at his shows because he combined the album price into the ticket price. Being Number 1 seems to be a huge deal to lots of artists (and many of their fans ) for some stupid reason. I still can't fully understand why some of these artists who don't write or produce on their albums are so excited about being Number 1 and going platinum because they don't really get much if any of that money from those units sold. It's like someone telling you that you did a great job, and then not paying you for it. I'll just keep buying used CDs from Secondspin, same CD except much cheaper and nobody gets the Soundscan points. That's my way around the system.

Artist should not care about any billboard/soundscan charting. just do your tour, sell yo parfum and clothing, hit up the club hoes, and bank yo money. all that award and top 100 lists is nuthin but a bucket O'Bullshit these days.

DesireeNevermind said:

LIstened to it, nothing is making me move. I almost feel asleep at the gym listening to it. I LIKE LOVE SEX MAGIC and TELL ME WHAT YOUR NAME IS.

When I is half way decent. I thought the album would be a little more like this track. Wonder why it didn't make it to the album.

JackieBlue said:

Are you referring to And I from her debut album?

phunkdaddy said:

I don't think so. I don't know her debut but this song is was supposedly not including on the current LP. It's uptempo and has a similar sound to the stuff she was doing on the last disc. She's gonna be on SNL with Justin Timberlake this Saturday.


[Edited 5/4/09 20:02pm]

i hope she manages to stay in the game. She's a great dancer, her voice is adequate and there's no reason why she can't compete with all this other poon tang tryna pass themselves off as real singer/song writers.

I feel pity for any entertainer who does not speak Truth..

..not even Mr. Nelson.


YHWH is Elohim and Yahoshua is King.
[Edited 5/8/09 16:35pm]

^^^At this rate, coming soon.