BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Thanks, nice read.
I always thought he did.

NaughtyKitty said:

What a spending habit MJ has, no wonder he is auctining off his personal items, probably so he could pay his debts.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Read the sentence in bold. Michael originally owned 100% of the ATV catalogue. The reason he's lost at least half of it is precisely because of the pattern Raymone Bain is describing in that sentence. Don't forget he's also lost Neverland.

Here's a nice story about when Michael went to the Prince of Brunei's birthday party.


Jennifer Sky Band: My personal audience with the King of Pop

By Jennifer Sky Band
Tuesday, May 26, 2009


Once upon a time, I attended the most unlikely of birthday parties, or highly likely, depending on which dimension of reality you believe in.

My husband and I arrived at London’s Heathrow airport, after the long flight from Los Angeles, and were met by a mysterious driver. I think he was speaking English, but neither of us could understand a word. Good thing I do understand the universal language of gesture — we were to get into his car! After hours of riding, destination unknown, we arrived at an elegant estate deep in the English countryside.

Two days later, I was seated next to Michael Jackson, actually rubbing his leg! Do read on.

Overhead, the circus-sized tent was draped in black and set with twinkling fairy lights; stars everywhere, all night. At table No. 1 sat Mr. Jackson. Next to him was Azim, the prince of Brunei; then Faye Dunaway, Raquel Welch, Jerry Hall, Shane West, Mario Vazquez from “American Idol,” some singer chick called Monica, my husband and myself. This eclectic group was gathered for Azim’s 25th birthday.

And so I found myself dressed in a silk strapless floor-length sheath sitting across a table from the King of Pop. What’s a girl to do? One must take advantage of this situation and talk to Sir Michael!

I devised a plan to reach my prey. First I came upon Ms. Welch, whom I complimented for her sparkly dress and figure. (Dude, the body on that woman — still unbelievable. I want to grow up to be her!)

Moving down the line, I knelt next to Ms. Dunaway and watched as she took a small scale out of her purse and weighed some tomatoes and lettuce. I had attended Wimbledon with Faye the previous year.

I said, “Faye you look so thin” — words a woman weighing her salad just loves to hear.

She replied with slight indignation, “I am thin.”

At this point I had maneuvered next to Michael himself; Faye to my right and Michael to my left. How do I begin? What would a man such as this want to hear? What is the universal language of the stars?

I turned to him and said, “I love your suit. It’s so beautiful. Who made it?” All the while rubbing the black, embroidered fabric of his pant leg: I was rubbing Michael Jackson’s leg!

He blushed a bit, and said in a soft, almost childlike voice, “Oh, thank you. Mr. Cavalli made it for me.” He was referring to famous designer Roberto Cavalli, who also was in attendance.

“Oh, it is so gorgeous!” I said, and smiled my sweetest. He smiled back shyly.

Turning back to Faye, who had been watching the exchange, I winked. She promptly offered me a compliment — I think. With a raised eyebrow she said, “You’re a very smart girl, aren’t you?”

To which I replied with a sly smile, “I am smart.”

Band, a native of Jensen Beach, is a retired model and actress. Online: jenniferskyband.com

http://www.tcpalm.com/new...ng-of-pop/

I wonder how she knew he blushed.. could she see his belly button..

bboy87 said:

love it!! i love the chapelle show

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[Edited 5/30/09 3:55am]

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Back into the fold

He has spent years attempting to obliterate any trace of his African-American roots. So why, since his arrest, is Michael Jackson suddenly so keen to embrace the black community? Gary Younge reports on the singer’s unexpected racial conversion.

Tuesday January 6, 2004
The Guardian


Michael Jackson: black or white?

When Michael Jackson wrote the lyrics “But if you’re thinkin’ about my baby/It don’t matter if you’re black or white” in his hit single Black or White, he could claim significant expertise. Jackson has had a fair crack at being both. First there was the African-American child star from Gary, Indiana – which became the most segregated city in America – who was the ethnic and aesthetic antithesis of the white-skinned, white-bread Osmonds.Then came the raised cheekbones, thinned nose and lightened skin that transformed him into … something else. The surgeon’s knife did not make Jackson white exactly, but it did not leave him looking black either. Instead he took on the characteristics of a transracial experiment, a combination of features that had never before been seen collected in one human being. In the process, Jackson proved that race was a construct by altering his face beyond all racial definition. If ever there was a candidate to tick the box “Other” on the racial categories of forms, it was him. If his first attempt at racial conversion was cosmetic, his second, more recent one has been political. Only this time he is going in the other direction. In what may yet prove to be his boldest transformation yet, Jackson is trying to reinvent himself as black.Under siege from both reporters and prosecutors, following charges of seven counts of child molestation, Jackson has reportedly teamed up with the black Muslim racial separatist organization the Nation of Islam. Among other things, the Nation supports the creation of a separate country for black Americans and was founded on the principle that white people – literally born with tails and fur – are devils.Jackson’s former spokesman, Stuart Backerman, resigned two weeks ago, claiming that leading members of the Nation have begun making decisions for Jackson on strategy for his legal defense, business affairs and dealing with the media. The Nation’s chief of staff and Minister Louis Farrakhan’s son-in-law, Leonard Farrakhan, is now working out of the Los Angeles office of Jackson’s lawyer Mark Geragos.”The Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakhan’s son-in-law have taken over completely and are in full and total charge,” one senior Jackson employee, speaking on condition of anonymity, told the New York Times. “They have gone in and taken over control of the finances in terms of who’s getting paid, how much,” the employee added. “They’re approving all funds and have decided they have control of the business manager and accountant, without signing authority or power of attorney. They are working out of Geragos’s office; in essence they’re telling him what to do.”

“These people are basically brainwashing him,” said the associate, who is also a friend of Jackson’s. “They tried to do the same thing to Whitney Houston. They offer a false sense that they can control everything. Everyone is scared of them. They pretty much keep Michael semi-captive.” Another Jackson employee said: “They’re negotiating business deals with him. They’re negotiating media deals, who can talk, how much. You’ve got a lawyer who’s scared to throw them out. Michael doesn’t know what to do with them.”Both the Nation and Jackson insiders deny the claim. “The idea that there is some takeover by the Nation of Islam – someone is spinning you,” said Gregaros.

“Nobody has told me what to do and what not to do. Leonard, I believe, is someone Michael consults with, just like in excess of 25 people.” But just a couple days earlier, during a recent televised news conference, Benjamin Muhammad, a senior member of the Nation, was there, larger than life, standing behind Geragos. Quite how a celebrity who has been in flight from his racial features, let alone his racial identity, ended up in the arms of an organization that is defined by race is a moot point.

Why a socially conservative institution committed to racial uplift should open its arms to a man charged with child molestation is similarly baffling. At the heart of it, however, lies not just Jackson and the Nation but three of America’s most intense obsessions after terrorism: race, crime and celebrity. The most generous explanation would be that, given the state he had got himself into, Jackson was once again in desperate need of new management and representation.

The Nation has some experience in that field, as well as providing security, and was only too pleased to help. Its anti-white rhetoric has mellowed in recent years – indeed, you will find a handful of white supporters at its annual convention – and it has been attempting to reach out to some communities it had previously alienated. But because it remains self-sufficient and independent of the white power structure, the Nation is always there to catch prominent black people brought low by scandal, when no one else will touch them. Attend its large meetings and you will see Marion Barry, the former mayor of DC filmed taking crack with a prostitute.

Benjamin Chavis was fired as head of the nation’s oldest civil rights organization, the NAACP, after he diverted £200,000 to settle a sexual harassment claim. Now he is Benjamin Muhammad. Jackson, then, is just one more lost sheep coming back to the fold.A more cynical theory is that this is one more black celebrity marriage made in opportunism. Forced yet again to explain himself out of a sordid hole, Jackson has fallen back on the defense of last resort: the hidey-hole of identity politics. He is being pursued not for what he has done, but for who he is.Sadly, the latter interpretation is the more likely. Following the familiar pattern of the trials of both OJ Simpson and Sean “Puffy” Combs, Jackson is yet another African-American celebrity whose interest in anti-racism has coincided with finding himself in trouble. The handcuffs click and the rest of the story writes itself. They reach for Johnny Cochrane’s number (the one call it appears Jackson has yet to make, but who was first on the Rolodex when OJ and Puffy needed representation), then they start to circle the wagons, mobilizing the broader community to protest their plight. Amid the noise, the gravity of the original charge – murder, manslaughter, pedophilia – gets lost.It is not the first time that Jackson has chosen to identify with the African-American community at moments that were more propitious for himself than for the community.

Eighteen months ago he rode through Harlem with the African-American presidential candidate, Al Sharpton, accusing record companies of being racist. “The record companies really, really do conspire against the artists,” Jackson told an audience of 350 at Sharpton’s headquarters. “They steal, they cheat, they do whatever they can. Especially against the black artists.”In a bitter denunciation of his record label, Jackson said of Sony’s chairman, Tommy Mottola: “He’s mean, he’s a racist, and he’s very, very, very devilish.” Referring to one African American artist, Jackson said, Mottola “called him a fat black nigger … And I can’t deal with that, you know. It’s wrong.” One wonders whether Jackson – rarely seen in Harlem before or since – had only just realized this, or whether the epiphany had anything to do with a flagging career.Sony dismissed the comments as “spiteful and hurtful”, implying that the campaign reflected Jackson’s own frustrations at the recent shrinking of the market for his work after his album, Invincible, sold only two million copies worldwide and Sony demanded that he pay back tens of millions spent on promoting the new album.

And his accusation against Mottola was not the last time Jackson would use the word racism to describe his treatment. On the day when he was led into the Santa Barbara court in handcuffs, his brother, Jermaine, called CNN and went live on air stating, “This is nothing but a modern-day lynching.”Nor is it first time that the Nation has provided security for or helped manage celebrities. Its most famous client was Muhammad Ali – although he, of course, was a member. But more recently, it provided security for OJ Simpson during his trial, Sean Combs during the height of the rap wars, and for a host of other rappers and artists.

The Nation is not just a religious organization but a business. It does not hook up with embattled black people through altruism, but because there is either some political or financial gain through the association. The group did not want to be too closely linked with Ali initially because he was expected to lose to Sonny Liston.

What its true motivations are we will probably never know. Michael Jackson is a complex character. What is going on in his mind is no easier to discern than the original features on his face. Similarly, the Nation is a highly secretive organization not given to the kind of free exchange of information that might shed some light on its strategy.But while this union may be driven by cynicism, it is made credible by racism. The reason trials such as these revert to such an atavistic and visceral level which can resonate so strongly among African-Americans is because the last hidey-hole of identity politics is often the first place black Americans end up.

They are all too often pursued not because of who they are, but what they do. According to a report by the US justice department, if current trends continue, black men born in the United States in 2001 will have a one-in-three chance of going to prison during their lifetime. “Our contemporary prisons basically replicate the social order that produced the offenders to begin with,” Mark Kleiman, a professor of public policy at the University of California at Los Angeles, told Atlantic Monthly magazine.

Given such statistics, racism becomes a powerful rally cry when any prominent black American stands before the law. Whether African Americans will answer the call remains to be seen. What is certain is that Jackson has few other places to go. Having discovered that there is more to race than physiology, Jackson has clearly realized that no amount of celebrity can allow him to live the logic of his lyrics. In America, in the 21st century, it does matter whether you’re black or white.

Jackson understands how this might work to his advantage in a tight spot. Sadly, we have yet to find any evidence that this awareness might benefit anyone other than himself.

A very enlightening article, I must say. Despite a few flaws and assumptions, it was cute. Extremely predictable, but very nicely written. Lets examine the headline. Younge implies that Jackson has spent years attempting to obliterate any trace of his African American roots, and suddenly bring forth accusations of child molestation in 2003, he is inept in embracing the black community. My question, what obliteration of his roots, and when did this take place? When has he not embraced the black community? And how did he go about it?

What was it than, when he was in his youth, throwing the black power fist in the air along side his brothers in the Jackson 5?

What was it than, when it is a fact that Michael Jackson is the single most donor of the Negro College Fund?

What was it than, that Michael Jackson’s inspiration and idol since his adolescence was James Brown, who wrote the lyrics “Say it loud / I’m black and proud”? [1] [2] [3] [4]

What was it than, when he firmly corrected critics that he was never influenced, phased or emulated Elvis Presley? Why was his [The Jacksons] song title ‘Heartbreak Hotel’ renamed to ‘This Place Hotel’ citing in his autobiography, Jackson reveals that he was not a fan of Presley, and it did not enter his mind? [1]

What was it than, Michael Jackson doing being good friends with Nelson Mandella?

What was it than, inspiring and embracing the black youth and adults during the height of his popularity [Thriller] of what accomplishments an African-American as young as he can accomplish? [1]

What was it than, that took the risk in buying The Beatles catalog, something he was severely criticized for ever since, including Sir. Paul McCartney (despite his admittance that he gave Jackson the idea into music publishing) insinuating he has no right, as a black man, to own such catalogs? Stepping out of his place? Being a threat? How long has it been where these detractors have made it their business to take this away from him? Spread false lies that he no longer has them because he is in financial struggle?

What was it than, Michael Jackson visiting Africa several times, spending his time in orphanages, hospitals and other places among the poor? What was it than, Michael Jackson being crowned a King in the small village of Senegal, Africa in 1992? [1] [2] [3]

What was it than, Michael Jackson dedicated one of his eight Grammy awards in 1984 to the recent passing of Jackie Wilson? [1]

What was it than, Michael Jackson giving Little Richard his publishing back when acquiring the SONY/ATV catalog? [1]

What was it than, when Michael Jackson attended James Brown’s funeral in 2006 when many black artists couldn’t be bothered? [1] [2]

What was it than, when Michael Jackson sang ‘You Were There’ to Sammy Davis Jr. during a tribute performance in 1990? [1]

Why was it than, when he is repeatedly given NAACP Image awards? [1] [2] [3]

What was it than, when Michael Jackson portrayed ancient Egyptians as African Americans with their natural hair in his music video, ‘Remember The Time’ in 1992, which was directed by John Singleton? [1] [2]

What was it than, when Michael Jackson invited busloads of disadvantaged and/or underprivileged black children and their families from the inner cities to visit his home Neverland Ranch Valley, to experience a place outside their homes — people who’ve never seen anything outside their doorstep? Or the donation of textbooks to their schools? [1]

What was it than, the burned down churches that Michael Jackson helped pay rebuild?

What was it than, his attendance of Barry White’s funeral, who’s passing went virtually unnoticed? [1] [2] What was it than, his attendance of Johnnie Cochran’s funeral? [1] [2] What was it than, his payment of one of the members of the Temptations funeral who could not afford it?

No, really. What was it? When and why did this take place, and why haven’t I been notified of this occurrence? When did Michael Jackson make it his business to stray away from his African American roots? When was it, Michael Jackson suddenly woke up one day and decided he wanted to be white? It certainly wasn’t for popularity or success; he already had international worldwide appeal and the biggest selling album of all time [Thriller] when he was visibly brown skin. Was it the nose that sealed the deal in your mind?

Or was it his skin progressively becoming lighter, for reasons you did not bother to understand or investigate why or HOW was this possible? Surely if a self hating black person were to be able to obtain a product to ‘lighten’ their skin, the world would produce at least ONE person who has done this as well? Michael Jackson is whiter than a white person; a porcelain white shade. What would be the purpose or goal of that procedure (had this been scientifically possible without having some sort of skin disorder depigmentation) of being this pale? Of being accused of turning away from his race, and having to ‘make up’ some faux disease excuse? (Katt Williams, pay attention. And if Paul Mooney can see through the child molestation case, and you can’t, there may be something wrong with you?).

Please tell me and explain in full detail the timeline and motive Michael Jackson had as you put as an ‘obliteration’ of his African American roots? In spite of some odd 3 years later written article, that is.

And lastly, one quote:

Of all his travels, he says his most emotional and moving experiences came in travels in Dakar, Senegal. “I’m going to raise my hand (to God) on this one,” he lit up like a light. “I always thought that Blacks, as far as artistry, were the most talented race on earth. But when I went to Africa, I was even more convinced. They do incredible things over there….They got the beats and the rhythm. I really see where drums come from. It makes you think that all Blacks have rhythm…I don’t want the Blacks to ever forget that this is where we come from and where our music comes from. And if we forget, it (Black history) would really get lost. I want us to remember.”

JET Interview–August 16, 1979
http://floacist.wordpress...ack-again/

midnightmover said:

Yawn, and again twisting things to prove your point! MJ hasn't "lost" half of the ATV catalogue... he used it to create an even bigger publishing company of which he owns 50 percent! And he certainly wasn't forced to this as in '95 the dough was still rolling in in the millions (Dangerous album and tour, HIStory album and tour)!

And he hasn't "lost" Neverland... since June '05 he doesn't live there anymore, so he simply moved on! Besides, he's still part owner of Neverland!

bboy87 said:

i agree 100%
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related




in fact lisa marie was upset that he had a baby without her. she couldn't even stay away. here she is going to visit him AFTER they got divorced

brooke sheilds just admitted she didn't loose her virginity until 22, which i think was 1987 and she supposedly went out with him in 1982

unique said:

And again in '92/'93!

[Edited 5/27/09 15:58pm]

All I know at the end of the day, this man USED to be fine as hell.

cdcgold said:[quote]

bboy87 said:

Who´s Theresa Gonsalves, bboy?

And, yeah. Lisa really chased MJ after the divorce:
Celebrating her 30 b-day.




In London:



In South Africa



etc.
[Edited 5/28/09 3:22am]

i've always wondered why her and her mom went on such a negative press tour about Mj after they divorced- it was so disrespectful especially Lisa's mom- uggghh

Lisa Marie's actions say something else compared to what she tells the media.

If the man is so manipulative and a user, why was she still hanging out with him after they divorced and he got married to Debbie Rowe?

dag said:[quote]

cdcgold said:

wait those pics are after the divorce . she should be ashamed just cause she's embarrased now she tries to act like she never cared about him and make him out to be the bad guy. if he treated her so bad than why did she still come around.

and another question are those lisa kids?

She came to Janet's Velvet Rope album party too October 1997.




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cdcgold said:

Yeah... they are, Danielle and Benjamin... and look how attached they are to Michael... even though at the time of the picture he's been out of their life since almost 2 years already...
[Edited 5/28/09 12:24pm]

PatrickS77 said:

that's a damn shame.....

Evvy said:

Riley, her daughter, is going to model for Mango and she recently gave a n interview where she talks about him.


BTW, she is very beautiful.






[Edited 5/29/09 0:01am]

STRAINED MICHAEL JACKSON leaves a medical centre — with a bag printed with the stark words: “Skin cancer.”

Thriller singer Jacko, 50, visited a top dermatologist in Beverly Hills, California, every day last week as he battles the disease.

It is not known what was in the bag, carried by a minder.

It read: “Diseases of the skin, skin cancer and skin cancer chemosurgery.”

The star has had a shave biopsy op to remove dangerous growths and to see if he needs more treatment.

He has also seen experts to minimise scarring.

A close source said: “He’s putting on a brave face but is absolutely terrified.”

Jacko is due to play 50 gigs at London’s O2 this summer, but the opening night has already been postponed to July 13.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...ancer.html

MICHAEL JACKSON faces having to scrap MORE of his UK concerts so he can battle skin cancer, it emerged last night.

Shock ... Sun, May 16

Shock ... Sun, May 16

The Sun

The superstar, 50 — diagnosed last month — may have to undergo gruelling radiotherapy to beat the disease.

Pals fear it means Jacko, who has already had to postpone the first four UK dates of his 50-show tour, could be left so exhausted that other July gigs will be hit.

Specialists in California’s Beverly Hills have removed potentially lethal growths from his nose and arm.
Temptation

But they are worried about a patch that remains on his chest.

One treatment option is to remove it layer by layer — which would not impact on his tour.

But many experts insist radiotherapy is more effective.

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A close source said last night: “Michael has a devil of a decision. The temptation is to go for the treatment which will allow him to perform.

“The last thing he wants is to let down his fans. But it may well turn out that radiation therapy is still needed if the cancer is deep in his cells.

“That can have really nasty side effects and leave him unable to sing at all.”

The shelving of the first four sellout concerts at London’s O2 arena left 80,000 fans disappointed last week.

The source said: “Everyone is praying that more dates will still go ahead.”

Last night a spokesman for Jacko insisted: “He is in great health.”

http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...ancer.html

Where there's smoke that's at least a little fire...

JackieBlue said:

Well, that or a bunch of idiots!

@ 2:43. I just posted this because I felt that many people were fans of michael at that time because they were hyping him up at the time. I think that a lot of those people became fans of him because he was hot at the time. they had never listened to his music before then. I saw that someone wrote on another fan board that some people got thriller because of they wanted one because everyone else was getting one, not because of the music. But someone commented on this video and say that we will never see all races and ages love someone like Michael Jackson again...I totally agree with this statement. What do you think about everything I said?
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