eireboy34 said:

Whats your point? what do you want ? and whats your problem? Do you want me to groun and moun and start to cry because MJ shifted some shows only five days, what do you want exactly ? or you want me to attack and insult mj to death, I think you wouldn't have any porblem if i did this..lol

they have been postponded,Its not the end of the world.
[Edited 5/21/09 6:34am]

seeingvoices12 said:

I might want you to "moun and groun" if I knew what this meant.....

You know, I have been watching this thread for a while, its been very obvious (to me at least) that MJ was going to start canceling/postponing these shows. But anyone who said so was jumped by the MJ fams? fans? fannies? as being a negative evil orger. MJ was a very talented performer. He is now a complete flake. The idea of him completing 50 gigs is ridiculous. His cry baby tactics began in the last few weeks, as many predicted. Sad but true, I was waiting for the next convenient health scare to disrupt the gigs. The papers are full of reports saying that the gigs are being cancelled because the show is just too big, bigger that anyone could have imagined, amazing, mind blowing etc etc in fact its so amazing that they had to cancel the gigs because its just too big.... WTF? you DO NOT cancel the opening night and the first few gigs because the show is not ready. Thats bloody ridiculous. Complete b-s. Thats your most loyal fans you are fucking over. The ones that got in line to get the first tickets. Nope its just about $. I prepared to be jumped on.
But at least I can look at the situation with some perspective. I have no problem with MJ. But I also do not wear sequined covered glasses. I truly feel bad for all the fans who had arranged travel and accommodation etc.

Not good. Not good at all.

Love to be a fly on the wall at AEG Live.
We all know what a great bunch of people they are, right?

Rorywan said:

Rorywan said:

and randy phillips was one of the AEG guys named by prince in march for the shit sound during the LA shows, now he's one of the guys in charge of this fiasco. it sounds like he couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

two things spring to mind, either those in charge are professionally incompetant not to be able to organise this properly, particularly considering that the shows were due to start in six weeks, and the delay of the first show is only 4 days. what the fuck could possibly be such a problem that can't be sorted in six weeks, but needs exactly four more days on top of those six weeks to fix? i've never heard anything so fucking ridiculous in my life. if it's all about the benjamins, surely they could make some concessions for the first show. all they need is for MJ to turn up and sing some fucking songs, or mime them if he can't do that. he can use teleprompts if he can't remember the lyrics, or just mime and stick his hand over his mouth like he did on previous tours. if he hasn't remembered the dance routines he can just stand still or do something impromtu. surely the backing dancers and band don't need an extra 4 days, so they could wing it and cover for everything else. if it's lights or some physical element of the stage that needs done, they can work a bit of overtime. surely they can squeeze 96 extra hours of work into six weeks?

it sounds like it's an excuse for something else, as i really can't believe that one of the largest concert promoters in the entire world, plus all the other "top rated" producers that are involved can't pull this off with the six weeks to go, but can do it with only another 4 days? i can't understand if MJ doesn't feel he will be ready in 6 weeks, that he thinks he will be ready with another 4 days. based on the concert itinery, he could wing the first gig, keep on doing whatever they need to do for the extra 4 days and be ready properly for the second gig, or the third gig. those seeing him on the first show will be so fucking pleased to see him he could turn up on stage in a bin liner with his back to the stage and just play his cd and they would be happy, so they wouldn't notice if the first show wasn't 100% ready

does no-one else think how strange that seems?

it stinks of a coverup to me, particularly considering all the other news reports regarding his health, or about him only attending two rehearsals. if that's true, then what the fuck else has he been doing with his time? going shopping for toys and ugly antiques that he can't afford to pay for unless he starts working again. whilst most of the stories are probably a load of crap, there's usually no smoke without a fire, and from someone who reads a lot of celebrity gossip, whilst there is a fair dash of bullshit, you can usually get to the truth within time, and it's usually the same group of people finding out the gossip and reporting it, so if only half of it is true, you have to consider that perhaps half of what is reported in the tabloids is also true, maybe not exactly how the media reports it, so he may not have skin problem, two missing legs and the elephant mans replacement lung, but maybe he does have health related issues that are causing a problem, and due to AEG being refused insurance past the initial 10 shows, 4 of which are now postponed, AEG could be shitting themselves that they are going to be faced with making a tremendous loss if this doesn't come through for them, so they are doing whatever they can to cover up the real story so they don't suffer so badly

AEG are well known for particularly dodgy practices, and i mentioned a few weeks ago how they held back a large number of unsold tickets to the shows, so it sounds to me that "production issues" is just a plain lie to hide the real problem, which is the star of the show himself. whether it's physical health problems, like his back, his skin, his face, his lung, or simply old age, or mental problems, perhaps as simple as a phobia or hangup about appearing back on stage again after so long, the only real reason the show couldn't be organised in the original time frame is down to one person, and his health issues appear to stand out as the reason for this. it has been mentioned that he is stressed out over the recent lawsuit stories, so there are numerous stories about his physical and mental health, and he's been seen numerous times in hospital/doctors buildings, not a place someone would go for fun, and he tried to delay his court appearances a few years ago by claiming ill health, or was he lying about that, and now he genuinely is ill, but is now lying to saw he is fine? or has AEG to lie for him this time?

or does anyone have a better explanation?

unique said:

I agree wholeheartedly with the above!

"I would trade my body for his tomorrow. He's in fantastic shape," Mr Phillips said.

Jackson assistant Kenny Ortega said the original plan "would have put us into the O2 one night before we opened to the world".

"It just wasn't practical for safety reasons and professional reasons."



Yeah sure, that makes a lot of sense!??!!?!

And...

"I would trade my body for his tomorrow. He's in fantastic shape," Mr Phillips said

I feel for Mrs Phillips...


[Edited 5/21/09 8:35am]

MJ postpones four gigs and his obsessive fans barely have a word to say about it. The truth is Michael does not want to perform, because he can no longer cut it. Rehearsing with dancers half his age will only have reminded him of his physical decline. If he could still sing live I would say that he shouldn't be hanging with dancers anyway. He should be hanging with... MUSICIANS! But since he doesn't have a voice anyway, the truth is, he has nowhere to go performance-wise..... AND HE KNOWS IT!

It is a deep shame that financial problems have forced him into doing something he is no longer fit to do. He must be panicking big time right now. If he cancels, AEG will sue him to the point of bankruptcy. If he goes ahead he'll be embarrassed and depressed by going out there as a shadow of his former self. He must really regret all those years of overspending. The chickens are coming home to roost.

^ boy, you really must be popping the champagne, would you like some balloons and confetti with that?

From that bastion of news reporting "Popbitch"


Wannabe startin' something? <<
Will Michael make it to the stage?

The announcement that Michael Jackson was
starting to postpone many of his London
shows this summer was the biggest shock
since, oh a Jordan and Peter Andre PR
stunt. But what are the chances he'll
make it on stage at all? Sources close
to Jacko claim he's not yet turned up
for one show rehearsal even though D-day
is now less than six weeks away.
AEG are said to have insisted on a clause
in Jackson's contract stipulating a
minimum amount of time that he himself would
be singing/performing on stage during the
whole show time. And that minimum amount?
13 minutes. Which is probably about three songs.

Jacko Not Sicko



He's not ill… as far as we are being told.

We mentioned yesterday that Michael Jackson screwed over tens of thousands of fans by postponing several of his tour dates, many until NEXT YEAR, without a so much as a crotch grab warning.

Speculation has suggested that Jacko has skin cancer (and who wouldn't after all the shit he's put it through), but AEG Live president Randy Phillips, who is promoting the Wacked One's residency at London's O2 Arena, is saying that's false.

"I would trade my body for his tomorrow," says Phillips. "He's in fantastic shape."

Okay, see, now we think that U are the one whose sick!

Anyways, Philips said there were no plans to delay further dates, although he conceded that, "if Michael were to get ill, that's possible".

Sounds like a set-up to us! Maybe none of us are going to see Jacko live in concert.

Stupid whackjob superstar!

[Image via WENN.]

http://perezhilton.com/20...-not-sicko

Philips said there were no plans to delay further dates, although he conceded that, "if Michael were to get ill, that's possible".

uh oh, that sounds like exactly what i was suggesting earlier, before i even noticed that comment. it sounds like they are delaying things as much as possible before showtime and that's when they will leave fans in the lurch by cancelling due to ill health, why else would he mention something like that at a time when he is trying to appease and calm fans by telling them that everything is alright? that's like saying we will be safe from attack in a war... unless they bomb us

Fans who bought their tickets through viagogo could get their tickets replaced for other dates

alphastreet said:

Just bringing the truth as usual. No one else does, so I thought I'd better fill in the gap for y'all. Michael was forced into these gigs by impending financial catastrophe, but he dreads performing and is panicking as the dates get closer. He is backed into a corner with nowhere to turn. Like I said, the chickens are coming home to roost.

It seems like Randy Phillips has been the one pushing MJ to do this whole concert tour, because he's been trying since 2007 to get Michael in the mood to perform. All websites have been reporting about this- and even J Randy Tarribollli talked about how negotiations were going on last year, and Michael wasn't all that enthusiastic back then. Phillips cares about his own interest and wants to make money off of him regardless of whether Michael really feels the desire to perform. Also Phillips didn't try to do anything to help out the people who had their tickets cancelled, and workout something better for them. The fact that he also went ahead and book all 50 concerts without taking into effect that it takes time to prepare for concerts (which is why all these shows just got cancelled) makes him look bad too.The March dates are a load of bull (he couldn't figure out any other time before that to set a date? Something smells funny) Read the article below from last year around the time of his 50th birthday.

http://www.dailymail.co.u...-like.html


[Edited 5/21/09 11:19am]
[Edited 5/21/09 11:20am]
[Edited 5/21/09 11:23am]

And once again the scapegoating begins.....

JACKO PUSHES BACK START DATE FOR LONDON SHOWS

I told you two weeks ago–Michael Jackson’s London shows are being pushed back to July 13 start–from July 8th. This came as a “surprise” to TMZ.com and other blogs but they read it in this column on May 5th and on May 11th. Hello!

I like that TMZ.com also says that the dates were pushed back because there are fears that Jackson can’t physically get through a whole show. I doubt that either Harvey Levin or I could get through a three-hour show like Michael’s, but I am assured the former King of Pop can do it. The reason for the postponement is because the sets won’t be ready.

Blogs equal speculation masquerading as fact.

http://www.showbiz411.com/?p=321

alphastreet said:

right, all that guy does is come in here and talk mess about mj, like he knows him personally.

The State Farm Ad that used "I'll Be There" and was played during the American Idol finale:

unique said:

Wow, you sure are long winded.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

yeah seriously, waste that energy elsewhere! Though I believe there is some truth to health issues and possibly not being ready, I'm confident that he is doing all he can to be ready for the shows. He's always gone to medical buildings, maybe he's doing so more often to feel better about whatever it is and is taking care of himself now. He may not feel the energy yet, but I believe fans and audiences will give him that energy and he'll be back in top form. Maybe he plays with fans, maybe he truly feels empowered by them, who knows the truth, but I know for sure he must have felt the energy during trial time and a part of him is giving back right now before the final curtain call.

midnightmover said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

if you think all "obsessed fans" think alike, you're a fluff brain. I'm not happy with what's happened either and have friends that are really upset and affected by it, and it doesn't make for good publicity, but the bottom line is that I at least have my ticket and I have a plan B for if in any case I don't end up going to the show, so I don't set myself up for disappointment. Dwelling on this and getting upset is just pointless, and it sounds to me like this is really affecting your feelings and thoughts.

C'mon now, Is it really that serious? It's just someone else's opinion for petessake At the end of the day nobody's opinion here on these messageboards are gonna affect Michael or the outcome of the concerts in any way. Its alright to disagree with what somebody said but threatening to beat up someone over it?

^ I know right? People gettin too emotional over other people's opinions



Mr. Jefferson says: "That's Ignorant!"

NaughtyKitty said:

NaughtyKitty said:

he's disrespectful...coming here disrespecting the intelligence of people. You're entitled to your own opinions but when you start insulting the intelligence of others, then that's when it becomes a problem.

midnightmover said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]