BoOTyLiCioUs said: Thriller made and broke Michael. It gave him everything he wanted, the acclaim, the respect, the touch point in history. Was it his best work - the debate will continue endlessly. For some it wasn't as good as OTW, others not as good as Dangerous, etc. But it also put him in a no win situation. Never again would such a moment collide where music and vision so forcefully met beaming his art around the world. And the sales, man those sales figures were and still are untouchable. And as you say, everything afterwards would be deemed a failure - like selling 28 million, 16 million, even 9 million was a failure.
Thriller put Michael in a league of his own. The bar was raised so high, no matter how well he did he would never outshine it. And I think part of him has Thriller on his back, and conciously or subconsciously he has tried to tap into the success of it. However, some of the focus on Thriller is understandable. Pop it on and the majority of songs still sound fresh and relevant. The album still holds up. And it changed the game for the industry in terms of what an album could contain, how many singles an album could hold, and what could be played on radio stations. It crossed musical divides, ages, tastes and introduced a lot of people to a new style of music and a whole new raft of artists. Whether it was his best, is open to personal taste. But there is no denying it's impact, its importance and its legacy in inspiring generations of artists. Hopefully though, it is not the be all and end all of musical discussion around Michael. Swa Great answer..I agree completely. Nice to have discussion on here about the music. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Swa said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Great answer..I agree completely. Nice to have discussion on here about the music. Swa Music is good for the soul. | |
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Swa said: Whilst the announcement isn't great - and I am sure a lot of fans who paid good money to be there opening night will be pissed, and rightfully so.
But to now say the whole series is going to be cancelled is just usual flaming. Look I will be the first person on here to have a go if the tour doesn't go ahead (and yes I have tickets for it), I just expect that those being overly and obviously negative (critical I get but just negative I don't) will also get on here when the shows go on. As for still buying into rumours of 13 minute shows, body doubles, clone machines, menagerie of birds, and elephants, come on now. Swa Yeah, this was posted by a certain orger,13 minutes show? he didn't disclose his sources , like we care, crap baseless sources to say the least...no need to disclose them. MICHAEL JACKSON
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i bet he won't have one single fucking elephant on stage, it's all promise and no delivery. michael jackson, sponsored by enron. i'll be pissed if i turn up and it's all hippopotamuses dancing about as he couldn't afford any elephants | |
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unique said: i bet he won't have one single fucking elephant on stage, it's all promise and no delivery. michael jackson, sponsored by enron. i'll be pissed if i turn up and it's all hippopotamuses dancing about as he couldn't afford any elephants
the whole elephant thing was denied already "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Yeah, this was posted by a certain orger,13 minutes show? he didn't disclose his sources , like we care, crap baseless sources to say the least...no need to disclose them
don't pay attention to that idiot he always posts bs. | |
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Nice to have discussion on here about the music.
Swa Hey where u old enough to remember the thriller era and his music before then? Just curious. You can see a difference on how they rate it before he blew up massive to after then. It kind of reminds me of Titanic. It was so huge and I can remember them raving of it. It was a great movie but the hype about it, is gone. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Nice to have discussion on here about the music.
Swa Hey where u old enough to remember the thriller era and his music before then? Just curious. You can see a difference on how they rate it before he blew up massive to after then. It kind of reminds me of Titanic. It was so huge and I can remember them raving of it. It was a great movie but the hype about it, is gone. Some MJ History - I bought Off The Wall when I was 7, then Triumph and so on. Some Music History - first album I bought was Kiss - Destroyer - I was 5. Some more Music History - first single I bought was Prince - Sexuality I was 8. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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unique said: i bet he won't have one single fucking elephant on stage, it's all promise and no delivery. michael jackson, sponsored by enron. i'll be pissed if i turn up and it's all hippopotamuses dancing about as he couldn't afford any elephants
That actually made me laugh. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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So all the other shows after the first 4 are still the same dates? | |
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Arnotts said: So all the other shows after the first 4 are still the same dates?
Yeah. | |
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New photos just out
http://splashnewsonline.c...bfm_page=0 Looks similar to the Thriller/Beat it Jacket yesterday except its Black. No lipstick, no facemask. | |
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suga10 said: New photos just out
http://splashnewsonline.c...bfm_page=0 Looks similar to the Thriller/Beat it Jacket yesterday except its Black. No lipstick, no facemask. The hair is the same [Edited 5/20/09 18:54pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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You can clearly perceive that he has a REAL problem with his nose !!!!! I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon... | |
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It's blatant on the first pic !
I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon... | |
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saafiir said: It's blatant on the first pic !
yeah i see..what's wrong with it? | |
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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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He looks so happy in this video. And so cute!!!! I just wanna hug him here!!!! | |
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this is so funny... | |
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Here are the credits listed for the tour based on the conversation this morning:
The dancers that we know off. Michael Curry - designer for Lion King, Love, Kia Patrick Woodruff - Rolling Stones lighting designer Michael Cotton - Dangerous / History production design Michael Beerdon - Musical Director who has worked with Janet, Madonna Michael Busch - Costume Design They also mention a great staging and iconic choreography, refreshed and new choreography. Looks like a pretty special team assembled. So while the delay in getting the show up is frustrating for a lot of us fans, those extra days will undoubtedly be worth it. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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bboy87 said: Sweet Asian nurse | |
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Didn't anyone notice the design of Mj's jacket? look at his shoulders MICHAEL JACKSON
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This is hilarious!!
We hear the MJ has started to postpone ( yeah, right!!) his concerts and you lot are here talking about his fashion sense!!! Luv it!!!!! | |
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eireboy34 said: This is hilarious!!
We hear the MJ has started to postpone ( yeah, right!!) his concerts and you lot are here talking about his fashion sense!!! Luv it!!!!! But sadly predictable that you are here to remind us. For what it is worth most of us have commented already about it when the new sbroke, state our point of view and even visited the other thread dedicated to it. It's a shame the shows have been postponed but still feel that the concerts will be worth seeing even if it means waiting an extra 5 days, or sadly 8 months. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: saafiir said: It's blatant on the first pic !
yeah i see..what's wrong with it? Don't know... but it's sad to see him like that ! I'll die in your arms under the cherry moon... | |
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