seeingvoices12 said:

Soldier's Entrance is from 1999. It was rumored to leak in 2003 or 2004 but it never did


Take this with a grain of salt, but more might leak soon, like Men In Black, a pro shot concert of the 1988 leg of the Bad Tour and some bad era outtakes maybe

bboy87 said:

The title of the track is puzzling to me, what the hell is the soldier's entrance ?thats why im interested in it.

it sad that some fans have "men in black" but still refuse to share,but as you said, sooner or later it will get leaked, just like "she got it" and " work that body", some fans have been holding them for years.lol

bboy87 said:

So that means it was written around the same time as "Liberian Girl"

ViintageJunkiie said:

yep!

from what I can gather

Bad-1986
The Way You Make Me Feel- 1986 (originally "Hot Fever from 1985)
Speed Demon- 1986
Liberian Girl- 1986 (originally Pyramid Girl from 1983 or 1984)
Another Part Of Me- 1985 (later reworked for the album in 1986 or early 1987)
I Just Can't Stop Loving You- possibly early 1987
Dirty Diana- 1986 (originally from 1983 then reworked throughout 1984-1986)
Smooth Criminal- 1985 then reworked throughout 1986-87
Leave Me Alone- 1987

the outtakes that we know so far
Hot Fever-1985
Chicago 1945- 1986
Streetwalker- 1986/1987
Fly Away- 1987
Someone Put Your Hand Out- then reworked in 1990 or 1991
Cheater- 1987
Tomboy- 1985
The Price Of Fame- 1986
What You Do To Me- 1985
Into The Groove- part of it was later used in Black Or White
Bumper Snippet-1987
Groove Of Midnight- 1987
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bboy87 said:

I love the demo version of APOM. The bass is amazing in it. I would say to include "Crack Kills", but I remember that track was never officially recorded. What about "Groove of Midnight"? Was that an outtake for BAD or just a demo for Siedah?

[/quote]Vitiligo? Does anybody see Tito with any Vitiligo?

MJ's mind was messed up by James Fields who told him "The White Man will never let him be as big as Elvis." and possibly Jann Wenner who at one time wouldn't give him a cover on Rolling Stone because in his words "Blacks don't sell magazines."


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Vitilgo can be also be caused a traumatic accident. Quincy Jones and Rod T. also asked Michael how he was going to react on if his album didn't sell as well as off the wall. Michael said he wanted it to be the best selling album of all time and they just laughed in his face. How wrong they were.
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Oh and it's a haven for obessive mj haters like you and unique that get their "facts" from the tabloids which are unfounded and still upset about Michael outbidding Paul and buying the beatles catalog. I am not a loon and neither are many of his fans. Many of us take time to research and educate the facts on Michael from reliable sources not rumours from the tabloids like you do. DON'T GENERALIZE!!!! You are entitled to your own opinion BUT don't shove it down everyone's throats like it's the gospel.AND STOP STOP STOP trying to insult people's intelligence as well. You really don't have shit to say but bs so why don't you hop out of this discussion as well Unique and MOVE THE FUCK ON!!!!
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ViintageJunkiie said:

Should "if you don't love me" be included in this?
Also "crack kills" was rumoured to be recorded with Run DMC.

Swa

ViintageJunkiie said:

the version of Another Part Of Me isn't a demo, but alternative mix that was produced by Michael and John Barnes for the Captain EO film

I completely forgot Crack Kills, I'll add it

you guys.

stop responding to the resident jackson thread trolls whatsgoingon, midnightmover, whoever else.

they'll go away if you ignore them.

Swa said:

If You Don't Love Me was from 1989/90

and Crack Kills was supposed to be with Run DMC, but it didn't work out. He probably recorded a demo of it

bboy87 said:

If I remember correctly, I remember RUN DMC talking about the track with Michael and something about Bubbles jumping on one of the members? Supposedly, Michael didnt like the direction that rap was headed in and totally scrapped the idea. I remember seeing some lyrics written by Mike on a piece of paper that was put up on ebay. and Do you by any chance have that mix of APOM?

ViintageJunkiie said:

You're correct. the meeting with Run DMC was pretty awkward Michael got along with Run but with DMC and Jam Master Jay it was hit and miss, especially after Bubbles jumped in Jay's lap

Michael Boddicker, Michael's keyboardist, talked about how Bubbles was very gentle but he could get too playful at times. He even threw Michael down the stairs

He said one time they were at Michael's house when they were recording Bad and how Bubbles and his daughter were walking around the estate holding hands and playing and how he was a litte afraid that here was this animal that had massive strength holding hands with his 3 year old

They had to decide whether to record with Michael or go on tour with The Beastie Boys in Japan and decided to tour instead

that mix of Another Part of Me wasn't ever commercially released, but it was at the end of Captain EO


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bboy87 said:

Oh ok - it sounded more 86 to me - good to know.

Swa

Thought this was funny.

bboy87 said:

I know I am late with this responce, but I don´t have the itnernet at home right now. Anyways, Joe and Katherine look fantastic and the kids are beautiful.

thought this was funny as well.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

He looks so sexy in this one.

bboy87 said:

Wow, Thanks so much for these. I´d love to hear those. I love Little Susie.
BTW, I find MJ´s handwriting neat. Have you seen mine?

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

This is what I mean by disingenuous MJ fans. You say I get all my info from tabloids. No one who has looked at my posts objectively over the years could ever say that. I am always the most sceptical about rumours and tabloid bullshit. The fact that you don't know that shows just how little you do know. With the skin cancer story I don't believe or disbelieve it, but unlike you MJ zealots I won't dismiss it outright either, since it was reported widely and backed up with a fair bit of detail, and Michael is certainly at high risk of skin cancer. I'll keep an open mind on that story, unlike you guys.

I know you guys don't like being called loons, but you give yourselves that reputation with the jaw-dropping levels of blindness you show. The fact that you don't realize that Michael cheats people out of money, or that his vocals have declined over the years offers ample proof of that. No logical person could be blind to such obvious facts, but as warped fanbots you can't see what is so obvious.

Finally, I think you need to realize that this is not an MJ forum. Therefore, those who take a dim view of MJ's character have EVERY RIGHT to say so, as often as they like. Deal with it. There are plenty of MJ forums where you can mix with other deluded fans. If the real talk bothers you, then I suggest you shuffle over there.

Maybe try getting some facts about something before arguing?!

http://nvfi.org/pages/inf...basics.php

http://www.medicinenet.co...rticle.htm

http://www.aocd.org/skin/...iligo.html

CandaceS said:

Not sure who this post is directed at, but I always find it hilarious how the people most willing to ignore facts are always the first to claim to care about them. Truth is they extract the ones that suit them and ignore anything that contradicts what they want to believe.

CandaceS said:

The fact of the matter is, there are dermatologists out there that don't believe Michael has vitiligo. Fans believe that because someone doesn't beleive Michael has vitiligo they don't know about the disease. I knew about the disease well before it ever became associated with MJ. But I also knew a lot about bleaching too and the way MJ became lighter had a bleaching effect. One of the classic signs of bleaching is at times the face looks a lot lighter than the hands. During the latter part of the 80s you saw various pixs where his hands were much darker than his face!!

midnightmover said:

Well regarding the whole skin cancer. There could an element of truth to this story- maybe they caught it quick and are giving him some treatment, because MJ has been going in and out of those dermatology clinics A LOT and the paparazzi manage to catch him there in all these photos.

It's already been denied that he has this.

http://www.themalaysianin...er-reports

whatever Midnight mover. Don't talk down to me. I am not a child. And get off of your high horse. I don't think that Michael is perfect, I think he has a lot of personal issues that HE, NOT US has to work through. I don't like his recent work and I'm getting so tired of him releasing his greatest hits over and over again. Do not insult my intelligence, I know what the hell I'm talking about. AND STOP GENERALIZING ABOUT MJ FANS! Really, all you do is come in here and talk shit about mj fans and u wonder why people get so defensive. Every celebrity have fans that are crazy obessed. Some Madonna fans think she's the second coming. GROW UP!

whatsgoingon said:

You STILL keep claiming to have witnessed these skin bleaching stories but have yet to post PROOF such as a picture of a person who bleached their skin to such an extent and lived to see another day, that is why i and many others consider your posts bull, they are all talk, as far as i'm concerned you are talking out your ass. If you know so much about skin bleaching and have seen it happened before how about posting a picture. What gets me is you people are such hypocrits that you demand to see video proof of michael playing an instrument, before you will even acknowledge that he can play instruments but, you don't think you need proof to back up your claims. BULL SHIT!!!!

and who are these dermatologist? why don't you post their names and i mean REAL credible dermatalogist not those crap tabloid dermatologist that they would get for some bullcrap bashir like documentary.

plus their are plenty of people with vitiligo who made the transition from wearing brown makeup to white make up by slowly using lighter and lighter makeup, which gave the impression that they were lightning up "evenly"

New audition and rehearsal video... this is it:






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PatrickS77 said:

Great update, finally, lol!

cdcgold said:

You show us proof that MJ has vitiligo? Considering according to the fans he has universal vitiligo there are no credible pics of MJ with splotches on his skin back in the 80s when he says his vitiligo first started? The only pics fans come up with are pics of MJ already fully depigmentized, with brown parts showing. Show us pics of MJ hands and body back in the 80s with white splotches on his dark skin? There are loads of pics of that era with his body and hands on show in concerts, coming in and out of the pool, hardly a blemish on his body.
Fans can never provide credible pictures of this era, even though it would have been more likely to show up back then.

The fact that MJ removed everything about his ethnicity with surgery and just coincidentally happened to get "universal vitiligo" on top of it all(the only one out of all his brothers and sisters) is just one coincidence too far. As I said you can depigmentize without having vitiligo and your symptoms will be similar to that of a vitligo patient, you would have to cover up your body and remain out of the sun and you will be more susceptible to skin cancer.
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