Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: we live to be diverse We don't like posting and trolling in just ONE thread about ONE artist Plus we MOCK MJ threads, oddly enough. SOME posters haven't been around to see our nWo bantering over there. whateva LOVE HARD. | |
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Evvy said: Timmy84 said: Plus we MOCK MJ threads, oddly enough. SOME posters haven't been around to see our nWo bantering over there. whateva | |
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Evvy said: LOL @ THIS THREAD- here it is in a nutshell lately
- concert pic of MJ from 100 years ago -hater comment -fan comment -J5 medley -MJ and kids shopping -lawsuit -J5 medley -fan comment -hater comment -pic of Ray Ray's blonde wig -hater commenting on Mj's wigs -J5 medley -some rare MJ recording LOLOLOLOLOLOL hey! those pictures are rare "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Evvy said: LOL @ THIS THREAD- here it is in a nutshell lately
- concert pic of MJ from 100 years ago -hater comment -fan comment -J5 medley -MJ and kids shopping -lawsuit -J5 medley -fan comment -hater comment -pic of Ray Ray's blonde wig -hater commenting on Mj's wigs -J5 medley -some rare MJ recording LOLOLOLOLOLOL hey! those pictures are rare Yeah it ain't like the pictures have been seen all over the world by now. | |
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DonRants said: midnightmover said: The way these guys bury their heads in the sand is unbelievable. This is about the twentieth time he's been sued for not paying people. If a guy is getting repeatedly sued by different people for the SAME THING, then no matter how big a fan you are, eventually you have to face the fact that your man has some major ethical shortcomings. Actually, that's too polite. Let's keep it real here. The man is a serial cheat and a liar. He even tried to get away with not paying his Neverland staff (including low-paid cleaners). They only got paid their wages after a judge FORCED HIM to pay them. To not see the trend here requires major self-delusion. While you make excellent points, I don't know if I think he is a "serial cheat and a liar". I think he needs to get himself good management and also he seems to always do things which are beyond his means. Lets face it, MJ is a millionaire who spends like a billionaire. That would give anyone problems. Also in the music industry if someone is not paid they sue the star because that gets more attention, when in fact they should sue the Management company. Why am I defending MJ here? I knew a sound engineer in New York who once said to me that MJ is the most generous star in the business. His exact quote was "People buy homes with the money MJ pays them. He is generous to a fault." Clearly that is not someone I would lable a "serial cheater". The disturbing thing about this post is that you are repeating the same illogical excuses without even seeing how illogical they are. Let me knock down these excuses one by one. I think he needs to get himself good management
Michael has had numerous managers and advisors over the last twenty years. They can't all have been crap. The story they all tell is that Michael fires people who tell him things he doesn't want to hear. Bob Jones (a long and loyal employee of Michael's who also ended up in a bitter financial dispute with him) explicitly said that Michael doesn't like being told the truth. Shmuley Boteach, his Jewish friend, said that Michael surrounds himself with yes-men and cannot stand to hear criticism. Michael gets the type of managers he wants. If an artist wants to live in a delusional fantasy world, no manager can stop him. You seem to forget that a manager is an EMPLOYEE of the artist, not a boss. Also in the music industry if someone is not paid they sue the star because that gets more attention, when in fact they should sue the Management company.
Please. Do you think Michael is the only rich rock star in the world? Madonna is in far better financial shape than Jackson, but she is NEVER sued for not paying people. Paul McCartney is far richer than MJ, and he is also NEVER sued for not paying people. The idea that Michael is being repeatedly sued because he's in the music industry is absurd. Please do not repeat this ridiculous excuse. Why am I defending MJ here? I knew a sound engineer in New York who once said to me that MJ is the most generous star in the business. His exact quote was "People buy homes with the money MJ pays them. He is generous to a fault." Clearly that is not someone I would lable a "serial cheater".
LOL! Well, first of all, can you please tell me the name of this sound engineer you know who is apparently such an authority on MJ's character? Secondly, can you please tell me, what the fuck would a sound engineer know about Michael's finanacial dealings anyway? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Timmy84 said: stick with the thread formula dude! LOVE HARD. | |
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What the hizell???
Michael Jackson's London Show in Jeopardy Posted May 11th 2009 11:39AM by TMZ Staff "Michael Jackson's hailed London concerts may never happen -- if a new bunch of lawyers get their way. We've AllGood Entertainment -- the company that was putting together a series of concerts with Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, and their brothers -- has fired off a cease and desist letter to the people organizing Jackson's London concerts, demanding that the show not go on. Here's what went down. In November, 2008, Jackson's manager -- Frank Dileo -- signed a deal promising that M.J. would appear with his family on tour. Part of the deal -- Jackson was prohibited from even making another concert deal for 18 months. But lawyers for the family tour claim after their deal was signed, Jackson went and signed up for his London concerts -- allegedly a violation of the 18-month blackout clause. Lawyers for the family tour now want to block the London concerts. As for Jackson's defense ... we're told his position is that he never signed his name on the family tour deal. But we know his manager signed, and in the law an agent can often sign for the client. So will the London show go on? Stay tuned" http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-jeopardy/ Makes. No. Sense. At. All. And since when is Frank Dileo Michael's manager? Unless that's who this Thome Thome is... MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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HOW is America like Michael Jackson? Comedian Colin Quinn hilariously takes down everyone from the king of pop to the greedy executives responsible for the downfall of AIG in his new one-man show, "My Two Cents," at the Roy Arias Studios, reports The Post's Mandy Stadtmiller. Quinn says: "He was young and talented and hardworking and enthusiastic and over time success made him move into a house that was too big. He surrounded himself with toys he didn't need [and became] sexually confused and racially divided. He ended up broke and liquidating all of his assets. Michael Jackson is America." Laughing loudly in the audience was pal Artie Lange, who looked half his former size, thanks, he said, to "jogging."
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Evvy said: Timmy84 said: stick with the thread formula dude! This thread ain't about the tour. | |
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NaughtyKitty said: What the hizell???
Michael Jackson's London Show in Jeopardy Posted May 11th 2009 11:39AM by TMZ Staff "Michael Jackson's hailed London concerts may never happen -- if a new bunch of lawyers get their way. We've AllGood Entertainment -- the company that was putting together a series of concerts with Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, and their brothers -- has fired off a cease and desist letter to the people organizing Jackson's London concerts, demanding that the show not go on. Here's what went down. In November, 2008, Jackson's manager -- Frank Dileo -- signed a deal promising that M.J. would appear with his family on tour. Part of the deal -- Jackson was prohibited from even making another concert deal for 18 months. But lawyers for the family tour claim after their deal was signed, Jackson went and signed up for his London concerts -- allegedly a violation of the 18-month blackout clause. Lawyers for the family tour now want to block the London concerts. As for Jackson's defense ... we're told his position is that he never signed his name on the family tour deal. But we know his manager signed, and in the law an agent can often sign for the client. So will the London show go on? Stay tuned" http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-jeopardy/ Makes. No. Sense. At. All. And since when is Frank Dileo Michael's manager? Unless that's who this Thome Thome is... I'll take this one with a grain of salt for now.... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: NaughtyKitty said: What the hizell???
Michael Jackson's London Show in Jeopardy Posted May 11th 2009 11:39AM by TMZ Staff "Michael Jackson's hailed London concerts may never happen -- if a new bunch of lawyers get their way. We've AllGood Entertainment -- the company that was putting together a series of concerts with Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, and their brothers -- has fired off a cease and desist letter to the people organizing Jackson's London concerts, demanding that the show not go on. Here's what went down. In November, 2008, Jackson's manager -- Frank Dileo -- signed a deal promising that M.J. would appear with his family on tour. Part of the deal -- Jackson was prohibited from even making another concert deal for 18 months. But lawyers for the family tour claim after their deal was signed, Jackson went and signed up for his London concerts -- allegedly a violation of the 18-month blackout clause. Lawyers for the family tour now want to block the London concerts. As for Jackson's defense ... we're told his position is that he never signed his name on the family tour deal. But we know his manager signed, and in the law an agent can often sign for the client. So will the London show go on? Stay tuned" http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-jeopardy/ Makes. No. Sense. At. All. And since when is Frank Dileo Michael's manager? Unless that's who this Thome Thome is... I'll take this one with a grain of salt for now.... I do too: Frank DiLeo is NOT Michael's manager and none of the brothers have even mentioned this, lol. | |
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Co-sign with Timmy and Bboy, I'm taking this story with a big ol shovel of salt. Very strange tho, this story came outta nowhere MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: Co-sign with Timmy and Bboy, I'm taking this story with a big ol shovel of salt. Very strange tho, this story came outta nowhere
Right, plus what does Frank DiLeo and the Jackson family themselves have anything to do with it? I smell bullshit on the entire article, no truth in it. | |
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NaughtyKitty said: Co-sign with Timmy and Bboy, I'm taking this story with a big ol shovel of salt. Very strange tho, this story came outta nowhere
You'd expect how much Jermaine wants a reunion, he'd throw a press conference the minute Michael took the cap off the pen to sign the contracts "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: NaughtyKitty said: Co-sign with Timmy and Bboy, I'm taking this story with a big ol shovel of salt. Very strange tho, this story came outta nowhere
You'd expect how much Jermaine wants a reunion, he'd throw a press conference the minute Michael took the cap off the pen to sign the contracts You know it! MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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bboy87 said: NaughtyKitty said: Co-sign with Timmy and Bboy, I'm taking this story with a big ol shovel of salt. Very strange tho, this story came outta nowhere
You'd expect how much Jermaine wants a reunion, he'd throw a press conference the minute Michael took the cap off the pen to sign the contracts Right! And now according to TSCM from the KOPD, this issue is really all Frank DiLeo vs. AllGood rather than AllGood vs. MJ/Frank and the Jacksons. There's a Reuters report about it. Apparently, it's for one show in Texas...in July 2010. And the Jackson family doesn't know shit about this...concert. | |
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Roadblock! Michael Jackson's London Concerts May Be Cancelled
Filed under: Anglophilia > Music Minute > Michael Jackson Will the show go on? The company that was planning Michael Jackson's tour alongside sister Janet Jackson and the rest of their siblings has issued a cease and desist on preparations for Jacko's upcoming London residency at the O2 Arena, which kicks off in July.. Back in November 2008, Jacko's manager signed a deal that promised his appearance in a family tour. As part of the deal, Michael was to refrain from any other concert deals for the following 18 months. The O2 concerts violate the terms of the deal! Jackson's defense is saying that MJ himself never signed the family tour deal, but that his manager did it, possibly without his knowledge. However, a manager is authorized to act on behalf of their client. And it's legally binding. Oops! http://perezhilton.com/20...-cancelled | |
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From TSCM at the KOPD:
Dispute Between Frank Dileo, AllGood Entertainment, AEG A dispute has arisen between New Jersey based entertainment firm, AllGood Entertainment, Inc. ("AGE"), and Frank Dileo in conjunction with AEG regarding Michael Jackson's planned summer concerts at London's O2. MJJR.net has reviewed several comprehensive documents and proposals from the firm regarding this matter and will now explain the circumstances as they stand. The plan of AllGood Entertainment was to host a "one-time event" tentatively titled "The Jackson Family Reunion: A Concert for the World" in the summer of 2009. The concert would star Michael and Janet Jackson while also including his siblings: LaToya, Rebbie, and all of his brothers. Billed as "The Most Anticipated Concert Event in Music History" the concert was anticipated to gross more than $93 million through a variety of means including ticket sales (at $135 each), sponsoring, Pay-Per-View access, DVD and CD sales, merchandising, digital downloads, broadcasting, and licensing. Using such a figure as a selling point, the company sought out a sponsorship to help fund the endeavor which included around $30 million of expenses. The concert was anticipated to be held in one of several stadiums--either in New Orleans, San Diego, New Jersey, or Atlanta. The event would be a day long and recorded professionally for Pay-Per-View and DVD releases with a projected first-showing audience of 100 million. The Pay-Per-View would fetch and estimated 3 to 7 million purchasers at $30 each, and there would be a worldwide market campaign building up to the event. In addition to the proposal (which was drafted in attempts of locating a sponsor to fund the project), MJJR.net has reviewed several contractual documents between AllGood Entertainment and Frank Dileo. On November 26, 2008, a four page confidentiality and non-disclosure agreement was signed with regards to the reunion concert; the document is signed by roughly half a dozen parties including Frank Dileo. The term of the agreement was for 18 months following November 2008. The other signed agreement, drafted on November 21, 2008 and signed on November 25, 2008, was again four pages and signed by Frank Dileo and affiliated parties of AllGood Entertainment. This agreement called for at least a 90 minute performance by Michael Jackson and 150 minute performance overall by all parties of the Jackson family. The agreement also called for a press conference in which all Jackson family members were present to announce the concert. The Jackson family members would receive $24 million in profit for their involvement with the remaining money being distributed to the affiliated parties. It should be noted that nowhere in any contract does the signature or authorization of ANY Jackson family member exist, it appears these contracts and proposals were drafted explicitly by Frank Dileo and AllGood Entertainment with no signed confirmation by any of the Jackson family members; it is unclear to what degree the Jackson family members are even aware of the whole situation. Back on March 27, 2009, AllGood Entertainment sent a cease and desist letter via e-mail to Randy Phillips of AEG, which MJJR.net has also reviewed. This was in regards to an article that appeared online questioning who Michael Jackson's spokesperson really was, which stated: "A spokesman for Dileo told CelebrityAccess that they would release a statement along with AEG to address Rowe's claims next week and suggested that legal action may be in the offing." The letter threatened AEG with legal action if Frank Dileo continued any alleged partnership with AEG during the period of time he was meant to be with AllGood Entertainment. On April 11, 2009 Randy Phillips responded to the cease and desist notice in stating that "Mr. Dileo and does not involve AEG Live in any manner whatsoever," and advised AllGood Entertainment that any legal issues were between that company and Frank Dileo and it has no involvement with AEG or their Jackson-related endeavors what-so-ever. In fact, this claim was reiterated in two separate e-mails from Mr. Phillips, and it has been stated that he worked directly with Michael Jackson and Dr. Tohme Tohme to negotiate the AEG contracts and procedures. In rebuttal of these claims, AllGood Entertainment sent a second notice again citing the CelebrityAccess article published on the Internet which referenced Frank Dileo as acting on behalf of Michael Jackson and AEG. However, the notice by AllGood Entertainment also seems to erroneously quote the published article using quotes which do not actually appear in the article itself. As a final follow-up, AllGood Entertainment wrote: "While Frank Dileo's actions were reprehensible, AEG's very public support of Dileo and continued association with him despite our efforts to Cease and Desist them, is tantamount to anti-trust and anti-competitive practices." In summary, two contracts and agreements were signed by December 1, 2008 by Frank Dileo and parties relating to Dileo's agency and AllGood Entertainment's agency. None of these contracts bare any signature of the Jacksons, nor has there been any confirmation that the Jackson siblings are aware of these concert-related plans. Even within the proposal that detailed at length the expenses, profits, and plans of each artist, there are no direct quotes from any of the Jacksons themselves to bring credence to the proposal. After reviewing many documents and communications regarding this conflict, MJJR.net does not believe that the dispute between Frank Dileo and AllGood Entertainment will have any negative impact on AEG and the O2 concerts. With no signatures or authorization by Michael Jackson within the contracts between Frank Dileo and AllGood Entertainment, and seemingly just one online Web site referencing that Frank Dileo had any involvement with AEG, there does not appear to be much legal cause for concern over the O2 concerts. Again, the cease and desist letter did not occur until the night that CelebrityAccess published an article proclaiming that Frank Dileo and AEG would release a statement the following week with regards to Leonard Rowe's questionable involvement. No such statement was ever released, Randy Phillips insisted that he only worked through Michael Jackson and Dr. Tohme Tohme in the matter, and the article in question only cites a "spokesperson of Frank Dileo" as the source and does not include any direct quotes from Frank Dileo himself. Stay tuned... Forum Discussion: http://mjjr.net/forum/vie...511&t=1009 Source: MJJR.net | |
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Monday, May 11, 2009
Music / By Roger Friedman MICHAEL JACKSON LONDON SHOWS DELAYED; LEGAL THREATS ‘BOGUS’ Michael Jackson’s London concerts are going forward as planned, despite legal threats from miscellaneous types who’d like to cash in on the action. The latest threat, reported on tmz.com, is “bogus” according to insiders and has no legal standing. Concert promoters who never came up with the money and never had real agreements are suing Jacko and former (like in the 80s) manager Frank DiLeo claiming that they’d agreed to be part of some kind of Jackson family tour with the Jackson 5 and Janet Jackson. Good luck: DiLeo does not represent Jackson and never signed anything, say insiders. Jackson never signed anything either. Somewhere at the bottom of this latest minor intrigue is promoter Leonard Rowe and Michael’s dad, Joseph Jackson. I reported a few months ago that these two were trying to worm their way into Jacko’s world. It’s not happening. Meanwhile, as I reported exclusively last week, the Jackson shows will be delayed from July 8th to July 13th or 14th for their start. Director Kenny Ortega should announce tomorrow that he needed a little more time for rehearsals and sets. Ortega is putting together a hot show, I am told, featuring Cirque du Soleil dancers and performers. http://www.showbiz411.com/?p=270 MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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NaughtyKitty said: Monday, May 11, 2009
Music / By Roger Friedman MICHAEL JACKSON LONDON SHOWS DELAYED; LEGAL THREATS ‘BOGUS’ Michael Jackson’s London concerts are going forward as planned, despite legal threats from miscellaneous types who’d like to cash in on the action. The latest threat, reported on tmz.com, is “bogus” according to insiders and has no legal standing. Concert promoters who never came up with the money and never had real agreements are suing Jacko and former (like in the 80s) manager Frank DiLeo claiming that they’d agreed to be part of some kind of Jackson family tour with the Jackson 5 and Janet Jackson. Good luck: DiLeo does not represent Jackson and never signed anything, say insiders. Jackson never signed anything either. Somewhere at the bottom of this latest minor intrigue is promoter Leonard Rowe and Michael’s dad, Joseph Jackson. I reported a few months ago that these two were trying to worm their way into Jacko’s world. It’s not happening. Meanwhile, as I reported exclusively last week, the Jackson shows will be delayed from July 8th to July 13th or 14th for their start. Director Kenny Ortega should announce tomorrow that he needed a little more time for rehearsals and sets. Ortega is putting together a hot show, I am told, featuring Cirque du Soleil dancers and performers. http://www.showbiz411.com/?p=270 Well so much for thinking Roger leaked the story to TMZ. I don't know about the delay tho, lol. We shall see about that one. | |
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Thanks to MsSnoop from MJJC:
I just had a little email conversation with Patrick Allocco of AllGood - and I think it is one of those issues about having to PUSH loud and big - ie - go over aboard to be heard (ie sue MJ) in order to get MJ's attention - or in this case, contact a tabloid/get on the news. The July 2010 concert in Texas with the family will not conflict with the O2 concerts - There will obviously be some behind the scenes scrambling, because AllGood assumes that Mr. Dileo was MJ's manager - and if he really wasn't then they have a major issue - and who really knows who is MJ's manager at any particular moment. So, according to Mr. Allocco, the London concerts are not 'in trouble'... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Statement from Randy:
Randy Phillips, President & CEO of AEG Live, the company putting on Jackson’s London shows released a statement to Access calling the claims “meritless.” “We are aware of the allegations which we believe are completely meritless,” Phillips said in the statement. “Rehearsals have been uninterrupted and continue on schedule.” "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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NaughtyKitty said: What the hizell???
Michael Jackson's London Show in Jeopardy Posted May 11th 2009 11:39AM by TMZ Staff "Michael Jackson's hailed London concerts may never happen -- if a new bunch of lawyers get their way. We've AllGood Entertainment -- the company that was putting together a series of concerts with Michael Jackson, Janet Jackson, and their brothers -- has fired off a cease and desist letter to the people organizing Jackson's London concerts, demanding that the show not go on. Here's what went down. In November, 2008, Jackson's manager -- Frank Dileo -- signed a deal promising that M.J. would appear with his family on tour. Part of the deal -- Jackson was prohibited from even making another concert deal for 18 months. But lawyers for the family tour claim after their deal was signed, Jackson went and signed up for his London concerts -- allegedly a violation of the 18-month blackout clause. Lawyers for the family tour now want to block the London concerts. As for Jackson's defense ... we're told his position is that he never signed his name on the family tour deal. But we know his manager signed, and in the law an agent can often sign for the client. So will the London show go on? Stay tuned" http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...-jeopardy/ Makes. No. Sense. At. All. And since when is Frank Dileo Michael's manager? Unless that's who this Thome Thome is... Poor Mike. He's gonna have to deal with lies and controversy for the rest of his life. | |
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ehuffnsd said: I would just take that with a grain of salt "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I was looking at the lyrics of the unreleased track "You Not Me" and realized that it's somewhat of a rough draft for the Brothers Johnson song "This Had To Be" "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: ehuffnsd said: LAME! I would just take that with a grain of salt but everyone is doing that now so it wouldn't surprise me. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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