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Reply #30 posted 04/20/09 8:54pm

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Timmy84 said:

paisleypark4 said:


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Hate THIS SONG!!!



I hate Jodeci
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You know what was odd? I liked Jodeci when they first came out, now looking back, I wonder what the hubbub was about them. confused They're mainly one of the reasons R&B groups are non-existent in so-called "commercial R&B". And the aftermath of their heyday is just sad.




i knew when Boys II Men and Jodeci came out there were going to be tons of trollops out just like them...I knew it was going to happen. Im glad music is getting better post 2000 and up because I have to say some of that whack r&b shit from 1992-1996 was horrifying until Timbaland and Aaliyah and them started making innovative beats and songs again...Pharell only added to it and the New Soul people were holding it down.


Anyway...Jodeci...I can do without them for the rest of my life. I do like Feinin and Get On Up but thats about it
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Reply #31 posted 04/21/09 11:56am

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You used to be able to get laid wearing a white baseball cap, white windbreaker, white shorts, tube socks and black combat boots. Hot. I like the cradle rocking motion he did with his arms when he said, "Now our baby is born," so that you know he's talking about human babies and not puppies or baby birds.

I don't like this one as much anymore, but I used to love it.
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Reply #32 posted 04/21/09 11:59am

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forever shanaynay

lol That's the first thing that came to mind when I thought of this.



Around the 1:30 mark.
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Reply #33 posted 04/21/09 12:27pm

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daPrettyman said:

shorttrini said:

If you need a visual aid as to why they are not making any more hits...here you go...


Even as horrible and tacky as that video is, it still doesn't explain why they stopped recording as Jodeci.

Jodeci had so much potential. When K-Ci and Jo Jo went solo they lost their soulfulness (for lack of a better word). They wanted to be pop stars and they did achieve that, but their solo material lacked the rawness and ghetto flavor that the Jodeci material did.

Has anyone caught any of their reunion shows?


This is where i would disagree with you. Yes jodeci had it going in the
early nineties for a minute. I myself was never a huge fan. I hated forever
my lady. It was a little to whiny for me and i didn't care for the first
album at all. I liked a few tracks off the second album and my favorite
by jodeci get on up. After the first two albums they spent the next phase
of their careers trying to outsex R.Kelly and you know that was a battle
they weren't going to win.(Google R.Kelly about pissing on teenage girls) mad
When KCi and JoJo became a duo they simply grew up. Prancing around the
stage with jeans falling off their ass just simply wasn't getting it anymore.
Nobody frankly wanted to see their grown asses doing that shit anymore.
KCi and JoJo's first album was brilliant. The music was more mature but it
was far from pop. Last night's letter,baby come back, Don't rush, and
you bring me up were anything but pop. You may say all my life was pop but
damn that was like the 3rd single from the album that caught fire and
happened freakishly but they didn't plan on that happening.
There second album was good but not as good as the debut and the third
album they came out with i got lost beyond the first single and somewhere
in between they fell off and seem to have fallen off into a path of
destruction. I hope for their sakes it's not true. I think KCi and JoJo
can continue to make good music as a duo if they got their act together but
i doubt it if anyone would be rushing out to get a new jodeci album anytime
soon but if packaged right they could be a part of some early nineties new
jack tour but i would see ego blowing any jodeci reunion tour up.
Don't laugh at my funk
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Reply #34 posted 04/21/09 12:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

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I think so too. Al had almost disappeared by the time their 2nd album came out.


I think it must've been behavioral problems that caused Al to leave them. I heard those guys were shit-starters or always causing shit. And the saddest thing is they come from HERE (Virginia-NC area). disbelief lol


Yes they are from just outside charlotte,nc. Trust me any local concert
you go to in charlotte, someone will bring KCi's dusty ass on stage
to sing oooh yeah for about 30 minutes. lol Charlie Wilson bought
him onstage several years ago during a United We Funk all stars show i
attended and my sister saw him at a show though i can't remember the
artist she went to see.
Don't laugh at my funk
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Reply #35 posted 04/21/09 1:10pm

Timmy84

phunkdaddy said:

Timmy84 said:



I think it must've been behavioral problems that caused Al to leave them. I heard those guys were shit-starters or always causing shit. And the saddest thing is they come from HERE (Virginia-NC area). disbelief lol


Yes they are from just outside charlotte,nc. Trust me any local concert
you go to in charlotte, someone will bring KCi's dusty ass on stage
to sing oooh yeah for about 30 minutes. lol Charlie Wilson bought
him onstage several years ago during a United We Funk all stars show i
attended and my sister saw him at a show though i can't remember the
artist she went to see.


I heard about that. Anytime some R&B legend has a concert in NC, they bring K-Ci's ass on the stage! lol He'll likely be around his bodyguard carrying him over his head. lol
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Reply #36 posted 04/21/09 1:52pm

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phunkdaddy said:

daPrettyman said:


Even as horrible and tacky as that video is, it still doesn't explain why they stopped recording as Jodeci.

Jodeci had so much potential. When K-Ci and Jo Jo went solo they lost their soulfulness (for lack of a better word). They wanted to be pop stars and they did achieve that, but their solo material lacked the rawness and ghetto flavor that the Jodeci material did.

Has anyone caught any of their reunion shows?


This is where i would disagree with you. Yes jodeci had it going in the
early nineties for a minute. I myself was never a huge fan. I hated forever
my lady. It was a little to whiny for me and i didn't care for the first
album at all. I liked a few tracks off the second album and my favorite
by jodeci get on up. After the first two albums they spent the next phase
of their careers trying to outsex R.Kelly and you know that was a battle
they weren't going to win.(Google R.Kelly about pissing on teenage girls) mad
When KCi and JoJo became a duo they simply grew up. Prancing around the
stage with jeans falling off their ass just simply wasn't getting it anymore.
Nobody frankly wanted to see their grown asses doing that shit anymore.
KCi and JoJo's first album was brilliant. The music was more mature but it
was far from pop. Last night's letter,baby come back, Don't rush, and
you bring me up were anything but pop. You may say all my life was pop but
damn that was like the 3rd single from the album that caught fire and
happened freakishly but they didn't plan on that happening.
There second album was good but not as good as the debut and the third
album they came out with i got lost beyond the first single and somewhere
in between they fell off and seem to have fallen off into a path of
destruction. I hope for their sakes it's not true. I think KCi and JoJo
can continue to make good music as a duo if they got their act together but
i doubt it if anyone would be rushing out to get a new jodeci album anytime
soon but if packaged right they could be a part of some early nineties new
jack tour but i would see ego blowing any jodeci reunion tour up.

I get ur point about their first album, but I wouldn't classify it as brilliant. Good, but not brilliant. I never did like that album. I have pulled it out from time-to-time since its release and never could get into it.

I despised the other projects they did, though. I think they did a few good songs as a duo, but didn't put together good albums.
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Reply #37 posted 04/21/09 2:22pm

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I agree with a lot of the comments on here. Jodeci was definietly the trendsetter for other R&B groups and male vocalists of the 90s and the Y2K's. Outside the studio, Jodeci's vocals were average at best behind other male groups like Take 6, Boyz II Men, Shai, Intro, Portrait, and even BBD could hold it down better. Jodeci's best live vocal performance is this. lol It's amazing what a little distortion on the vocals can do.



There first album was true to the Uptown Records brand of New Jack Swing because of Al B. Sure and Puffy. The 2nd disc had some cool production for '93, but the songs were not that great. And by '95 with the third disc, well... disbelief It was OK in a "We're down with Suge Knight, now...we don't need Uptown" kind of way.
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Reply #38 posted 04/21/09 2:36pm

Timmy84

Adisa said:

I agree with a lot of the comments on here. Jodeci was definietly the trendsetter for other R&B groups and male vocalists of the 90s and the Y2K's. Outside the studio, Jodeci's vocals were average at best behind other male groups like Take 6, Boyz II Men, Shai, Intro, Portrait, and even BBD could hold it down better. Jodeci's best live vocal performance is this. lol It's amazing what a little distortion on the vocals can do.



There first album was true to the Uptown Records brand of New Jack Swing because of Al B. Sure and Puffy. The 2nd disc had some cool production for '93, but the songs were not that great. And by '95 with the third disc, well... disbelief It was OK in a "We're down with Suge Knight, now...we don't need Uptown" kind of way.


All Jodeci did was scream their asses to the top and then burnt out STILL screaming! lol I can't stand that performance by the way. K-Ci and JoJo screaming out the top of the lungs. Good Lord. Now both of them sound like they're dying of thirst! falloff JoJo literally! lol
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Reply #39 posted 04/21/09 2:57pm

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Timmy84 said:

Adisa said:

I agree with a lot of the comments on here. Jodeci was definietly the trendsetter for other R&B groups and male vocalists of the 90s and the Y2K's. Outside the studio, Jodeci's vocals were average at best behind other male groups like Take 6, Boyz II Men, Shai, Intro, Portrait, and even BBD could hold it down better. Jodeci's best live vocal performance is this. lol It's amazing what a little distortion on the vocals can do.



There first album was true to the Uptown Records brand of New Jack Swing because of Al B. Sure and Puffy. The 2nd disc had some cool production for '93, but the songs were not that great. And by '95 with the third disc, well... disbelief It was OK in a "We're down with Suge Knight, now...we don't need Uptown" kind of way.


All Jodeci did was scream their asses to the top and then burnt out STILL screaming! lol I can't stand that performance by the way. K-Ci and JoJo screaming out the top of the lungs. Good Lord. Now both of them sound like they're dying of thirst! falloff JoJo literally! lol

Yep. In most live performances you couldn't even hear D & D. At least in this one you could. D & Dwere holding down two-part harmony at some pojnt...so
K-ci and JoJo could scream.
falloff This is why other groups used to mop them up when it came to live singing, esp. acapella.
I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired!
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Reply #40 posted 04/21/09 3:09pm

Timmy84

Adisa said:

Timmy84 said:



All Jodeci did was scream their asses to the top and then burnt out STILL screaming! lol I can't stand that performance by the way. K-Ci and JoJo screaming out the top of the lungs. Good Lord. Now both of them sound like they're dying of thirst! falloff JoJo literally! lol

Yep. In most live performances you couldn't even hear D & D. At least in this one you could. D & Dwere holding down two-part harmony at some pojnt...so
K-ci and JoJo could scream.
falloff This is why other groups used to mop them up when it came to live singing, esp. acapella.


RIGHT! Jodeci was never gonna be that great vocal group like many of the sixties and seventies soul groups that came out. In fact they were very marginal vocally. If the DeGrate brothers had different members than the Hailey brothers, maybe they would be alright but not so much. Plus they couldn't dance worth shit! lol In fact all they did (besides JoJo, who was the "heavyset member of the group") was show their chest and screamed at the ladies (or in DeVante's case, lick the right side of their faces like Rick James lol ).
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Reply #41 posted 04/21/09 3:22pm

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Timmy84 said:

Adisa said:


Yep. In most live performances you couldn't even hear D & D. At least in this one you could. D & Dwere holding down two-part harmony at some pojnt...so
K-ci and JoJo could scream.
falloff This is why other groups used to mop them up when it came to live singing, esp. acapella.


RIGHT! Jodeci was never gonna be that great vocal group like many of the sixties and seventies soul groups that came out. In fact they were very marginal vocally. If the DeGrate brothers had different members than the Hailey brothers, maybe they would be alright but not so much. Plus they couldn't dance worth shit! lol In fact all they did (besides JoJo, who was the "heavyset member of the group") was show their chest and screamed at the ladies (or in DeVante's case, lick the right side of their faces like Rick James lol ).
[Edited 4/21/09 15:10pm]


This is why I never liked "boy bands": I heard "Forever My Lady" on Pandora...I thought I liked it so I bought it. After playing the song several times, I couldn't stand it.. I knew better.
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Reply #42 posted 04/21/09 3:31pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



RIGHT! Jodeci was never gonna be that great vocal group like many of the sixties and seventies soul groups that came out. In fact they were very marginal vocally. If the DeGrate brothers had different members than the Hailey brothers, maybe they would be alright but not so much. Plus they couldn't dance worth shit! lol In fact all they did (besides JoJo, who was the "heavyset member of the group") was show their chest and screamed at the ladies (or in DeVante's case, lick the right side of their faces like Rick James lol ).
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This is why I never liked "boy bands": I heard "Forever My Lady" on Pandora...I thought I liked it so I bought it. After playing the song several times, I couldn't stand it.. I knew better.


LOL and they had the nerve to name their second album, Diary of a Mad Band. Should've been Diary of the Idiots. That video for "Feenin'" was also just...WRONG.
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Reply #43 posted 04/21/09 4:44pm

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I agree with a lot of the comments on here. Jodeci was definietly the trendsetter for other R&B groups and male vocalists of the 90s and the Y2K's. Outside the studio, Jodeci's vocals were average at best behind other male groups like Take 6, Boyz II Men, Shai, Intro, Portrait, and even BBD could hold it down better. Jodeci's best live vocal performance is this. lol It's amazing what a little distortion on the vocals can do.



There first album was true to the Uptown Records brand of New Jack Swing because of Al B. Sure and Puffy. The 2nd disc had some cool production for '93, but the songs were not that great. And by '95 with the third disc, well... disbelief It was OK in a "We're down with Suge Knight, now...we don't need Uptown" kind of way.

Damn, a LOT of Jodeci hate in this thread. And outside the studio, BBD better than Jodeci vocally? Really? LMAO.
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Reply #44 posted 04/21/09 4:47pm

Timmy84

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Adisa said:

I agree with a lot of the comments on here. Jodeci was definietly the trendsetter for other R&B groups and male vocalists of the 90s and the Y2K's. Outside the studio, Jodeci's vocals were average at best behind other male groups like Take 6, Boyz II Men, Shai, Intro, Portrait, and even BBD could hold it down better. Jodeci's best live vocal performance is this. lol It's amazing what a little distortion on the vocals can do.



There first album was true to the Uptown Records brand of New Jack Swing because of Al B. Sure and Puffy. The 2nd disc had some cool production for '93, but the songs were not that great. And by '95 with the third disc, well... disbelief It was OK in a "We're down with Suge Knight, now...we don't need Uptown" kind of way.

Damn, a LOT of Jodeci hate in this thread. And outside the studio, BBD better than Jodeci vocally? Really? LMAO.


BBD weren't shit too vocally. lol They just had better songs. lol
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Reply #45 posted 04/21/09 4:52pm

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Timmy84 said:

junebug18 said:


Damn, a LOT of Jodeci hate in this thread. And outside the studio, BBD better than Jodeci vocally? Really? LMAO.


BBD weren't shit too vocally. lol They just had better songs. lol

That's not what Adisa said.


BBD's had better songs Jodeci? Since when? Uptempo's... yes, Otherwise....LOL.

BBD was hot in 1990/91 with their first studio album Poison and the Remix album, by 1993 when Hootie Mack dropped, they were done.

What in BBD's catalogue can mess with "U&I"? Or "My Heart Belongs To You"?
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Reply #46 posted 04/21/09 4:57pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



BBD weren't shit too vocally. lol They just had better songs. lol

That's not what Adisa said.


BBD's had better songs Jodeci? Since when? Uptempo's... yes, Otherwise....LOL.

BBD was hot in 1990/91 with their first studio album Poison and the Remix album, by 1993 when Hootie Mack dropped, they were done.

What in BBD's catalogue can mess with "U&I"? Or "My Heart Belongs To You"?


That is true, lol. But I love their "Will I Ever See You Smile Again?" THAT song was the shit. nod
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Reply #47 posted 04/21/09 5:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

junebug18 said:


That's not what Adisa said.


BBD's had better songs Jodeci? Since when? Uptempo's... yes, Otherwise....LOL.

BBD was hot in 1990/91 with their first studio album Poison and the Remix album, by 1993 when Hootie Mack dropped, they were done.

What in BBD's catalogue can mess with "U&I"? Or "My Heart Belongs To You"?


That is true, lol. But I love their "Will I Ever See You Smile Again?" THAT song was the shit. nod

So do I. That song is also a favorite. (The original, the remix is cool, but the original bangs!!!) but even that song ain't even better than any Jodeci ballad on Forever My Lady.
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Reply #48 posted 04/21/09 6:23pm

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[/quote]Trust me any local concert
you go to in charlotte, someone will bring KCi's dusty ass on stage
to sing oooh yeah for about 30 minutes[quote]

Oh that was a good laugh.

On topic, I am surprised to say that Jodeci hasn't aged well for me. I loved some Forever My Lady and Stay back in the day among others, but now, not quite.
Cry for You however, still hits.
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Reply #49 posted 04/21/09 6:28pm

Timmy84

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Trust me any local concert
you go to in charlotte, someone will bring KCi's dusty ass on stage
to sing oooh yeah for about

30 minutes



Oh that was a good laugh.

On topic, I am surprised to say that Jodeci hasn't aged well for me. I loved some Forever My Lady and Stay back in the day among others, but now, not quite.
Cry for You however, still hits.


Yeah they had some good songs though. Probably two, lol. The other songs are as dated as they come. lol
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Reply #50 posted 04/21/09 6:44pm

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As Men on Film used to say...

Hated it
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #51 posted 04/21/09 6:52pm

Timmy84

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As Men on Film used to say...

Hated it


I was WAITING on your reply! lol
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Reply #52 posted 04/22/09 6:17am

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Adisa said:

I agree with a lot of the comments on here. Jodeci was definietly the trendsetter for other R&B groups and male vocalists of the 90s and the Y2K's. Outside the studio, Jodeci's vocals were average at best behind other male groups like Take 6, Boyz II Men, Shai, Intro, Portrait, and even BBD could hold it down better. Jodeci's best live vocal performance is this. lol It's amazing what a little distortion on the vocals can do.



There first album was true to the Uptown Records brand of New Jack Swing because of Al B. Sure and Puffy. The 2nd disc had some cool production for '93, but the songs were not that great. And by '95 with the third disc, well... disbelief It was OK in a "We're down with Suge Knight, now...we don't need Uptown" kind of way.

Damn, a LOT of Jodeci hate in this thread. And outside the studio, BBD better than Jodeci vocally? Really? LMAO.

Not hate, just opinions. And, yes, my opionion was that outside the studio BBD was better vocally because, like Guy, they kept their 3 part harmonies simple and you could actually hear everyone singing...and with better control and pitch lol BBD toured quite a bit lately, as did Jodeci. Look at the vids on youtube and form your own opinion.
But I'm not knocking Jodeci. They gave my group the courage to get on stage dozens of times back in '92. A lot of times our rehearsals were like:
Me: Man, we sound like crap!
Shawn: So does Jodeci. People love them.
Me: That's true. What y'all wanna sing next?
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Reply #53 posted 04/22/09 6:28am

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Angelic1302 said:

forever shanaynay

Kid, I want you kiss me like you kissed that lil light skinded girl in House Paaarty. kisses


You gots to take it to tha head! drink

I still say these lines from that episode on the regular. lol
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Reply #54 posted 04/22/09 6:30am

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Well, he should have been there when they landed. IMO, they were very overrated.

I'm not going to disagree with the overrated statement, but the difference is that they could sing and did make some very memorable songs in the 90s. The "Forever My Lady" album is such a defining album of the 90s no matter how you look at it.

I still find myself listening to the remix of "Come and Talk To Me" and "I'm Still Waiting" occasionally.

That I'm Still Waiting remix is classic. music
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Reply #55 posted 04/22/09 6:31am

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You do know that these two fools are Fantasia's cousins, right?

Yep. I'll bet that it's a scream at their family reunions. lol

Yeah, literally. lol
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