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Thread started 04/13/09 12:58am

MattyJam

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So is Van Hunt's career down the toilet now???

His website is absolutely crap... "deliberately sparse" - wtf? If you have no label then at least keep your fans updated via the web.

Any word on a new label picking him up? I really digged Popular.
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Reply #1 posted 04/13/09 6:56am

RodeoSchro

MattyJam said:

His website is absolutely crap... "deliberately sparse" - wtf? If you have no label then at least keep your fans updated via the web.

Any word on a new label picking him up? I really digged Popular.


I always heard this guy was good and I was looking forward to checking him out.

Then he called his fans a bunch of losers or something like that, and now I just can't find any enthusiasm for listening to his stuff at all.
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Reply #2 posted 04/13/09 7:09am

ButterscotchPi
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WTF?
When and where did Van call his fans "a bunch of losers"?

He's living his life and working on new stuff.
He'll update when he's good and god damned ready to.
http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
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Reply #3 posted 04/13/09 8:42am

AlexdeParis

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Rodeo, that doesn't sound like Van at all. The "or something like that" makes me think it's just a rumor you heard. You should definitely check him out.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #4 posted 04/13/09 9:03am

Cinnie

He had an underperforming album, then a shelved album, and hasn't yet seemed to find his niche in this new broken music industry.

But I doubt his work is finished.
[Edited 4/13/09 9:03am]
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Reply #5 posted 04/13/09 9:10am

Graycap23

This cat writes quite a bit of material 4 other people.
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Reply #6 posted 04/13/09 9:15am

thekidsgirl

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ButterscotchPimp said:

WTF?
When and where did Van call his fans "a bunch of losers"?

He's living his life and working on new stuff.
He'll update when he's good and god damned ready to.



he didn't. neutral
If you will, so will I
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Reply #7 posted 04/13/09 9:17am

thekidsgirl

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He's working on new tracks, but with the industry being a mess like it is, it's just hard to get your stuff out sad

Van is incredible though, everyone should check him out nod
If you will, so will I
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Reply #8 posted 04/13/09 9:29am

RodeoSchro

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Rodeo, that doesn't sound like Van at all. The "or something like that" makes me think it's just a rumor you heard. You should definitely check him out.


Yeah, it was on his blog a year or two ago. He said something about Prince, too - like how Prince used to write good songs but doesn't any more. Hunt also mentioned his young son.

There was a huge thread on this. I'll look for it.
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Reply #9 posted 04/13/09 9:35am

RodeoSchro

Here it is:

Last night I was on the
computer with my son. He likes to look up biographical information on the 43 presidents. (And to think, at 5 years old, all I wanted to do was the 'robot'). After he'd his fill he asked if I would google "Van Hunt's Son." I pondered his reasoning and the potential for damage that I was ignoring. I was reluctant when I said, ". . .o. . .k..."
I pressed enter. and right there, at the top of the page was a heading, "Van Hunt is Prince's Son." This time it was Prince.org. "Oh, Jesus" I whispered. I had to have it.

Double Click.

I read the first line, "there aint sh*t about Van Hunt that's genius." Or something to that effect. My son reads almost as fast as i do. But, I caught him before he got to the curse words. I said "go play." He started to challenge the order. I put on my transformer face. He found a toy.
I read on.
Of course, everyone on the thread was a Prince fan. But, to my surprise, this time I emerged from the comments without any long-term scarring. Some people didn't know enough about me to form an opinion. Some people knew enough to be enthusiastically supportive and encouraging of my work. Some were, obviously, musically inclined on top of being Prince fans. Some didn't give a damn.
The debate seemed to be fueled by the bodyguarding of Prince's legacy and about the question of whether or not I was a good musician. They mentioned other musicians who would supposedly wipe the floor with me (even 10 year old musicians).

What they don't realize is that I've played guitar with, for and beside most of their heroes. And, I doubt that any of those musicians would say that I couldn't hold my own. What they don't know is that guitar isn't even my first instrument. Piano is. What they don't know is I never set out to make improvisational solo records. I fast forward through Prince's guitar solos. As a matter of fact I would be more likely to listen to Thelonious Monk play one of his tinkly excursions than I would Art Tatum. Charlie Parker could MAKE you hear modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths and do it before you notice that Mccoy Tyner or Oscar Peterson didn't even have his hands on the keys. but, i put my money on Johnny Hodges. slow notes by the most beautiful horn tone in the business. Ask me who's the better singer, Sam Cooke or Muddy Waters, and I'll say, obviously, Sam Cooke. But, ask me who I prefer to listen to and, well... Muddy is my man! And, if u listened to Sly's 'there's a riot goin on' you would not walk away from that record claiming that George Benson or Herbie Hancock need be worried about claims on their Godliness. But, it's MY favorite record.

What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he willed his biggest hits into being. Because he HAD to be a star. He no longer writes great songs because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is. What they don't know is that Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Duke Ellington...THOSE are great songwriters. They wrote hundreds of them- consistently. Nary a dud in their entire career. What they don't know is that Michelangelo was an artist. Marlon Brando was an artiste (emphasis on the 'iste'). Each more naturally skillful than any of the people I've mentioned. Ayn Rand, Tennessee Williams... craftsmen. Read 'Fountainhead' or watch 'Night of The Iguana'. the work is more fine tuned and sharp and sophisticated than any of the people I've mentioned. They don't know that these are the benchmarks for me. Not their obsolete little argument over who has the best album of the last 20 years that was played on the now invisible and inaudible "black radio."

What they can't comprehend is the lengths I have gone to create what is my highest ideal...for their world to sneer at...and that it is quietly reaching critical immunity because of the dues that i have paid.

So, kiss my a** while you decide if i'm worth your respect. it shouldn't matter to me; and, i am glad to say that it doesn't anymore. and, i will tell my child the same thing the next time he asks me to google Van Hunt's son: it's none of your business what people say about you

details on my future coming tuesday.
V H .


http://prince.org/msg/8/2...ince-Forum

He doesn't too highly of some of us.
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Reply #10 posted 04/13/09 10:10am

2freaky4church
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Meanie.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #11 posted 04/13/09 10:19am

AlexdeParis

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RodeoSchro said:

Here it is:

http://prince.org/msg/8/2...ince-Forum

He doesn't too highly of some of us.

Oh, that crap. rolleyes He called out people for spouting a bunch of bullshit. Good for him.

And he certainly didn't call his fans "losers" by any stretch.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #12 posted 04/13/09 12:36pm

lastdecember

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Van gets on my nerves because he bitches and then doesnt follow through. His blogs about industry are nothing more than being lazy. You are free, put the shit out yourself, stop smoking weed, and sitting on your ass and get out and play. The reason im jumping on this cat, is that everyone at EMI pushed him, people in retail pushed him, and this cat did nothing but whine, and didnt follow through, he didnt want to do interviews etc...so it is what it is.

Him not having a deal has nothing to do with his career, Ani difranco has no deal but she gets the shit out, Van could EASILY do things, but choses not too.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #13 posted 04/13/09 1:03pm

thekidsgirl

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That post he put up was directed to the people who were putting him down, not his fans! Some took it way out of context, though...

Van is very good to his fans and extremely down to earth
If you will, so will I
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Reply #14 posted 04/13/09 1:37pm

bboy87

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thekidsgirl said:

That post he put up was directed to the people who were putting him down, not his fans! Some took it way out of context, though...

Van is very good to his fans and extremely down to earth

really?




how good..? lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #15 posted 04/13/09 1:56pm

Bishop31

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lastdecember said:

Van gets on my nerves because he bitches and then doesnt follow through. His blogs about industry are nothing more than being lazy. You are free, put the shit out yourself, stop smoking weed, and sitting on your ass and get out and play. The reason im jumping on this cat, is that everyone at EMI pushed him, people in retail pushed him, and this cat did nothing but whine, and didnt follow through, he didnt want to do interviews etc...so it is what it is.

Him not having a deal has nothing to do with his career, Ani difranco has no deal but she gets the shit out, Van could EASILY do things, but choses not too.


At the end of the day some Artists just don't have "IT". Sad but true. Van needs to jump off of that "I'm a victim" boat.
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Reply #16 posted 04/13/09 1:57pm

Cinnie

bboy87 said:

thekidsgirl said:

That post he put up was directed to the people who were putting him down, not his fans! Some took it way out of context, though...

Van is very good to his fans and extremely down to earth

really?




how good..? lol


evillol
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Reply #17 posted 04/13/09 2:03pm

thekidsgirl

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bboy87 said:

thekidsgirl said:

That post he put up was directed to the people who were putting him down, not his fans! Some took it way out of context, though...

Van is very good to his fans and extremely down to earth

really?




how good..? lol


lol you'll just have to meet him after one of his shows to find out!
If you will, so will I
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Reply #18 posted 04/13/09 2:19pm

SPYZFAN1

AHAHAAAHAAAA.LOL!!!!! Go Van! Preach!

Thank you so much for posting that.
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Reply #19 posted 04/13/09 2:39pm

bboy87

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thekidsgirl said:

bboy87 said:


really?




how good..? lol


lol you'll just have to meet him after one of his shows to find out!

contacts blogs about thekidsgirl's "rendezvous"
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #20 posted 04/13/09 2:44pm

Cinnie

bboy87 said:

thekidsgirl said:



lol you'll just have to meet him after one of his shows to find out!

contacts blogs about thekidsgirl's "rendezvous"

lol
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Reply #21 posted 04/13/09 2:52pm

thekidsgirl

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bboy87 said:

thekidsgirl said:



lol you'll just have to meet him after one of his shows to find out!

contacts blogs about thekidsgirl's "rendezvous"


no no no! tsk tsk! lol
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Reply #22 posted 04/13/09 3:32pm

bboy87

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thekidsgirl said:

bboy87 said:


contacts blogs about thekidsgirl's "rendezvous"


no no no! tsk tsk! lol

you gave me enough material to go on lol
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Reply #23 posted 04/13/09 3:38pm

phunkdaddy

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bboy87 said:

thekidsgirl said:



lol you'll just have to meet him after one of his shows to find out!

contacts blogs about thekidsgirl's "rendezvous"


She won't be having rendezvous with anyone but me. lol
Phunkdaddy has spoken.
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Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #24 posted 04/13/09 3:59pm

AlexdeParis

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phunkdaddy said:

bboy87 said:


contacts blogs about thekidsgirl's "rendezvous"


She won't be having rendezvous with anyone but me. lol
Phunkdaddy has spoken.
hammer

She's mine, so step off!

Van is great. Period.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #25 posted 04/13/09 4:21pm

ButterscotchPi
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RodeoSchro said:

Here it is:

Last night I was on the
computer with my son. He likes to look up biographical information on the 43 presidents. (And to think, at 5 years old, all I wanted to do was the 'robot'). After he'd his fill he asked if I would google "Van Hunt's Son." I pondered his reasoning and the potential for damage that I was ignoring. I was reluctant when I said, ". . .o. . .k..."
I pressed enter. and right there, at the top of the page was a heading, "Van Hunt is Prince's Son." This time it was Prince.org. "Oh, Jesus" I whispered. I had to have it.

Double Click.

I read the first line, "there aint sh*t about Van Hunt that's genius." Or something to that effect. My son reads almost as fast as i do. But, I caught him before he got to the curse words. I said "go play." He started to challenge the order. I put on my transformer face. He found a toy.
I read on.
Of course, everyone on the thread was a Prince fan. But, to my surprise, this time I emerged from the comments without any long-term scarring. Some people didn't know enough about me to form an opinion. Some people knew enough to be enthusiastically supportive and encouraging of my work. Some were, obviously, musically inclined on top of being Prince fans. Some didn't give a damn.
The debate seemed to be fueled by the bodyguarding of Prince's legacy and about the question of whether or not I was a good musician. They mentioned other musicians who would supposedly wipe the floor with me (even 10 year old musicians).

What they don't realize is that I've played guitar with, for and beside most of their heroes. And, I doubt that any of those musicians would say that I couldn't hold my own. What they don't know is that guitar isn't even my first instrument. Piano is. What they don't know is I never set out to make improvisational solo records. I fast forward through Prince's guitar solos. As a matter of fact I would be more likely to listen to Thelonious Monk play one of his tinkly excursions than I would Art Tatum. Charlie Parker could MAKE you hear modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths and do it before you notice that Mccoy Tyner or Oscar Peterson didn't even have his hands on the keys. but, i put my money on Johnny Hodges. slow notes by the most beautiful horn tone in the business. Ask me who's the better singer, Sam Cooke or Muddy Waters, and I'll say, obviously, Sam Cooke. But, ask me who I prefer to listen to and, well... Muddy is my man! And, if u listened to Sly's 'there's a riot goin on' you would not walk away from that record claiming that George Benson or Herbie Hancock need be worried about claims on their Godliness. But, it's MY favorite record.

What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he willed his biggest hits into being. Because he HAD to be a star. He no longer writes great songs because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is. What they don't know is that Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Duke Ellington...THOSE are great songwriters. They wrote hundreds of them- consistently. Nary a dud in their entire career. What they don't know is that Michelangelo was an artist. Marlon Brando was an artiste (emphasis on the 'iste'). Each more naturally skillful than any of the people I've mentioned. Ayn Rand, Tennessee Williams... craftsmen. Read 'Fountainhead' or watch 'Night of The Iguana'. the work is more fine tuned and sharp and sophisticated than any of the people I've mentioned. They don't know that these are the benchmarks for me. Not their obsolete little argument over who has the best album of the last 20 years that was played on the now invisible and inaudible "black radio."

What they can't comprehend is the lengths I have gone to create what is my highest ideal...for their world to sneer at...and that it is quietly reaching critical immunity because of the dues that i have paid.

So, kiss my a** while you decide if i'm worth your respect. it shouldn't matter to me; and, i am glad to say that it doesn't anymore. and, i will tell my child the same thing the next time he asks me to google Van Hunt's son: it's none of your business what people say about you

details on my future coming tuesday.
V H .


http://prince.org/msg/8/2...ince-Forum

He doesn't too highly of some of us.



So, in other words you're a liar?
http://www.facebook.com/p...111?ref=ts
y'all gone keep messin' around wit me and turn me back to the old me......
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Reply #26 posted 04/13/09 5:53pm

BigDaddyHQ

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Van Hunt has a strong personailty.. but he's really pretty cool. That whole 'incident' got blown way out of proportion. His blog was more so directed to a few individuals who were dogging him out in another thread on the org. He posated a clarification as well. He in know way insulted his fans.

He had been on touring over seas and a couple months ago... he released quite a few tracks he said wouldn't be on his 'new album' that's near completion. Some were pretty good.. the others he just described as doing some experimentation with.
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Reply #27 posted 04/13/09 7:13pm

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RodeoSchro said:

AlexdeParis said:

Rodeo, that doesn't sound like Van at all. The "or something like that" makes me think it's just a rumor you heard. You should definitely check him out.


Yeah, it was on his blog a year or two ago. He said something about Prince, too - like how Prince used to write good songs but doesn't any more. Hunt also mentioned his young son.

There was a huge thread on this. I'll look for it.


Although I've never seen the blog, I remember the thread on THIS website where it was such a divided issue. I do recall Blaqueknight explaining how Van Hunt's statements were taking completely out of context by the Prince-diehards! lol
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Reply #28 posted 04/13/09 7:48pm

P2daP

That is bull about him saying his fans are bunch of losers.. I'm a big fan of his and he's been incredible nice to his fans, going well beyond the norm to do stuff for fans. Van Hunt imo doesnt seem to have a huge desire to be a star, but his career is nowhere near down the toilet. that's just dumb. He's working on new music which he'll release independently. IMO he's one of the most exciting musicians of this decade. His albums although don't sell well are praised by critics and really i haven't found much of anyone who doesn't like his music. It's a bit of mystery why isn't more well known, but it prob. has something to do with his less the willingness to work in the major label system. He's gets a lot of hatin on this board because he's wonderfully put all the org haters in their place. So by nature the orgers have made him as their number one target.
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Reply #29 posted 04/13/09 9:06pm

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Next show is JULY 11TH originally for June 24th all tickets will be honored.

THE SOUL UPRISING
Featuring:
VAN HUNT
CONYA DOSS
SY SMITH

Hosted By YahZarah
2009-06-24
8:00PM


Doors @ 6PM

$25.00 Advance
$30.00 Day of Show

* Limited general admission seating available on the side wings of the club - First come, first seated -

http://www.bbkingblues.co...gi?id=4774
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