We all know that PYT was the only song quincy ever wrote for michael but did you know that james ingram had a hand in it as well


cute story

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...8s23a4q84a

james ingram actually co-rewrote the track with quincy jones. he didn't write the original demo version, but rewrote the track from the demo to the version that's on the album

jackson and greg phillanges (who also co-wrote the remake of yellow magic orchestras behind the mask, and covered it, and then eric clapton later covered it - greg was in his band) wrote the original version

Yes.

Who didn't know that?

AlexdeParis said:

This is what I hate about music downloads, no liner notes and no information about the tracks. I miss that terribly. I got turned on to so many other artists and music, just by reading the LP jacket or CD booklet.
Gone are the good ole days of music and artistry.

Fuck that, they got liner notes posted on Allmusic somewhere and I've BEEN knowing James Ingram wrote that.

AlexdeParis said:

Yeah, exactly. It's not a big surprise or a best kept secret. the only question used to be: Who's James Ingram?

graecophilos said:

And if anyone doesn't know James' music, then either you're VERY young or you'd been listening to one artist all your life. Music IS knowledge, now.

It's been rumored that James actually wrote the song himself, and Quincy kinda "took" credit

bboy87 said:

I heard that because the whole track sounds more like Ingram than Quincy.

graecophilos said:

http://prince.org/msg/8/304142

Timmy84 said:

"You know what I heard"


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LittleBLUECorvette said:

oh man, Quincy took the credit? James coulda done 100 percent more if it was his credit and noone else's!

graecophilos said:

Yeah he took the credit for the title but Michael already had the title.

graecophilos said:

I wonder if James wrote anything else for the album

the writers for the LP (released and unreleased) that we know so far were

Michael-Wanna Be Startin Somethin', The Girl Is Mine, Billie Jean, PYT(original version), Got The Hots, Behind The Mask, Learned My Lesson, Stand Tall, Much Too Soon, Who Do You Know

Greg Philliganes- PYT (Original Version)

Rod Temperton- Baby Be Mine, Thriller, The Lady In My Life, Slapstick, Hot Street, Rolling The Dice

Quincy- PYT, Got The Hots

John Bettis-Human Nature

Steve Porcaro- Human Nature, For All Time

James Ingram- PYT

Michael Sembello- Carousel

Glen Ballard- Night Line

Terry Britten, }
Bill Livsey, } Trouble
Sue Shifrin}

Yeah,I knew that James wrote this song.He's alot funkier than people realize.He even had something to do with Carl Carlton's 1981 hit "She's A Bad Mama Jama"...I think he plays bass or keyboards on it?

SoulAlive said:

He played the keyboards, hell he might've played the bass synthesizer on it because I didn't hear no regular bass. It sounded like it was played on a synthesizer.

James was a member of a funk band when he met Quincy Jones.