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Reply #30 posted 04/10/09 7:44pm

daPrettyman

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Ugot2shakesumthin said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

For me, it's when the production style and studio tricks overtake the actual song. Some will disagree with this one, but here's a prime example:


Whitney Houston - I'm Your Baby Tonight

Too much going on with the vocal track, the layers of percussion, canned horns. Less about the song than it is the production.


lol bad example.

I am not a Whitney fan , but this song and album is an example of good, but glossy production.

Britney's Toxic is chock full of of over the top sounds, but works perfectly for what it is.The studio tricks make the song, same can be said about most rap and hip hop

Production is like a chef, you put the flavors together in the mix for whatever sound you want to create, whether electronic pop, or acoustic rock or opera.

A great producer will put all the flavors together to create something appealing in that format.

An example of bad production and over prodution is seen on "The Rainbow Children" by Prince, Where silly elements like a narrative, that is mixed way too high, and he is unable to discern how annoying it is, same goes with the silly lyrics, a good producer knows what to edit, what needs to be cut and what needs to stay, what needs to be mixed up or down.
Its all a matter of taste, but a great producer is supposed to have great taste, like the chef of a fancy restaurant.
[Edited 4/10/09 18:44pm]

You hit the nail on the head. I happen to like the way Prince did TRC, but the narrator was annoying to many. I know the reason why he did it, but if done differently, the result would have been drastically different.
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Reply #31 posted 04/11/09 5:25am

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daPrettyman said:

Ugot2shakesumthin said:



lol bad example.

I am not a Whitney fan , but this song and album is an example of good, but glossy production.

Britney's Toxic is chock full of of over the top sounds, but works perfectly for what it is.The studio tricks make the song, same can be said about most rap and hip hop

Production is like a chef, you put the flavors together in the mix for whatever sound you want to create, whether electronic pop, or acoustic rock or opera.

A great producer will put all the flavors together to create something appealing in that format.

An example of bad production and over prodution is seen on "The Rainbow Children" by Prince, Where silly elements like a narrative, that is mixed way too high, and he is unable to discern how annoying it is, same goes with the silly lyrics, a good producer knows what to edit, what needs to be cut and what needs to stay, what needs to be mixed up or down.
Its all a matter of taste, but a great producer is supposed to have great taste, like the chef of a fancy restaurant.
[Edited 4/10/09 18:44pm]

You hit the nail on the head. I happen to like the way Prince did TRC, but the narrator was annoying to many. I know the reason why he did it, but if done differently, the result would have been drastically different.


But, we all know that Prince, does not do things the normal way. Frankly, I didn't see anything wrong with TRC. The music was great and I don't think it was over produced. It was done so, for a reason. He was trying to spread his message in his music, using today's technology. At least, he did not pull a Jamie Foxx with that damn, vocoder.
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