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PrintableLiveToTell86 said: Your Honesty, Let Down Your Guard & Freedom are among her worst songs and they were all done by Dallas Austin.
"Sanctuary" is fantastic but remember the version we know was remixed by Nellee Hooper to have an electronic-trip hop feel. "Don't Stop" was also remixed, by Daniel Abraham, just like "Your Honesty" in fact. The "raw" Dallas sound can only be heard in "Secret" and the 2 outtakes, the rest was produced or remixed by someone else. He co-wrote "Survival" but Nellee Hooper got the production credit... hey,I like "Let Down Your Guard"  That's another song that could have replaced the filler track "Don't Stop" on Bedtime Stories.It's a fun,stripped down track that could have easily been recorded by T.L.C. | |
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SoulAlive said: "Secret" is one of Madonna's best singles of the 90s.That song is beautiful
 A warm,hypnotic melody and great lyrics....what's not to like? I wouldn't complain if she gave us another single in that vein.
"Your Honesty" is a good song,too.It should have replaced "Don't Stop" on Bedtime Stories.It's a stronger,better song. I LKE DON'T STOP what's so wrong about it? I know the lyrics are bad, and too Everbody-like, but the chorus has a good melody. I was hardly born when BS was released, yet I have the feeling it's like Hard Candy - some love, and some totally hate it. Rarely something between. I love it! | |
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SoulAlive said: LiveToTell86 said: Your Honesty, Let Down Your Guard & Freedom are among her worst songs and they were all done by Dallas Austin.
"Sanctuary" is fantastic but remember the version we know was remixed by Nellee Hooper to have an electronic-trip hop feel. "Don't Stop" was also remixed, by Daniel Abraham, just like "Your Honesty" in fact. The "raw" Dallas sound can only be heard in "Secret" and the 2 outtakes, the rest was produced or remixed by someone else. He co-wrote "Survival" but Nellee Hooper got the production credit... hey,I like "Let Down Your Guard" That's another song that could have replaced the filler track "Don't Stop" on Bedtime Stories.It's a fun,stripped down track that could have easily been recorded by T.L.C.NOOOOO!!!! | |
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graecophilos said: SoulAlive said: "Secret" is one of Madonna's best singles of the 90s.That song is beautiful
A warm,hypnotic melody and great lyrics....what's not to like? I wouldn't complain if she gave us another single in that vein.
"Your Honesty" is a good song,too.It should have replaced "Don't Stop" on Bedtime Stories.It's a stronger,better song. I LKE DON'T STOP what's so wrong about it? I know the lyrics are bad, and too Everbody-like, but the chorus has a good melody. I was hardly born when BS was released, yet I have the feeling it's like Hard Candy - some love, and some totally hate it. Rarely something between. I love it! I like Don't Stop to...far from a masterpiece, by definately a catchy pop tune. Bedtime Stories is an underated album IMO. I found it to be an awesome summer time record, get the top down, go for a drive, CD blarring...Inside of Me was made for hot summer afternoons on the road! www.filmsfilmsfilms.co.uk - The internet's best movie site! | |
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DaveT said: graecophilos said: I LKE DON'T STOP what's so wrong about it? I know the lyrics are bad, and too Everbody-like, but the chorus has a good melody. I was hardly born when BS was released, yet I have the feeling it's like Hard Candy - some love, and some totally hate it. Rarely something between. I love it! I like Don't Stop to...far from a masterpiece, by definately a catchy pop tune. Bedtime Stories is an underated album IMO. I found it to be an awesome summer time record, get the top down, go for a drive, CD blarring...Inside of Me was made for hot summer afternoons on the road! Wasn't it released in autumn? Or fall? | |
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Madonna.com has a new section called Sidewalk Talk, that posts rumours about Madonna.
Sidewalk Talk is not about official and/or confirmed news but is devoted to Madonna-related whisperings related to her artistic career. A possible new single, collaboration, release, movie or book project? They all will be featured in the Sidewalk Talk column, while time will tell if those turn to be true or not! Please keep in mind that an info cannot be taken as official before it's posted to the NEWS section of Madonna.com. We hope you enjoy this new feature! And the latest item in Sidewalk Talk is: Who's That Girl? Some sources say that Madonna is to add a reworked version of her 1987 hit 'Who's That Girl' to this summer's 'Sticky & Sweet' setlist. While 'The Look Of Love' was considered as another option, 'Who's That Girl', which she has not performed live since her 1987 world tour, may have won the game. Let's wait and see! | |
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graecophilos said: DaveT said: I like Don't Stop to...far from a masterpiece, by definately a catchy pop tune. Bedtime Stories is an underated album IMO. I found it to be an awesome summer time record, get the top down, go for a drive, CD blarring...Inside of Me was made for hot summer afternoons on the road! Wasn't it released in autumn? Or fall? october i believe You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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graecophilos said: SoulAlive said: "Secret" is one of Madonna's best singles of the 90s.That song is beautiful
A warm,hypnotic melody and great lyrics....what's not to like? I wouldn't complain if she gave us another single in that vein.
"Your Honesty" is a good song,too.It should have replaced "Don't Stop" on Bedtime Stories.It's a stronger,better song. I LKE DON'T STOP what's so wrong about it? I know the lyrics are bad, and too Everbody-like, but the chorus has a good melody. I was hardly born when BS was released, yet I have the feeling it's like Hard Candy - some love, and some totally hate it. Rarely something between. I love it! "Don't Stop" just seems very ordinary.Nothing special.It's as if Madonna thought 'I need to have one song about dancing' and quickly came up with "Don't Stop". You are right,'Bedtime Stories' and 'Hard Candy' both get a similiar reaction from fans.Some fans think of these albums as "sellout" albums,a view that I think is ridiculous.Some fans think Madonna shouldn't do R&B and yet they praise her first album,which is largely R&B,lol. | |
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SoulAlive said: graecophilos said: I LKE DON'T STOP what's so wrong about it? I know the lyrics are bad, and too Everbody-like, but the chorus has a good melody. I was hardly born when BS was released, yet I have the feeling it's like Hard Candy - some love, and some totally hate it. Rarely something between. I love it! "Don't Stop" just seems very ordinary.Nothing special.It's as if Madonna thought 'I need to have one song about dancing' and quickly came up with "Don't Stop". You are right,'Bedtime Stories' and 'Hard Candy' both get a similiar reaction from fans.Some fans think of these albums as "sellout" albums,a view that I think is ridiculous.Some fans think Madonna shouldn't do R&B and yet they praise her first album,which is largely R&B,lol. that's right, her first album IS R&B of the time. I'm with you and wonder what's so wrong for Madonna doing R&B. I guess it's because most of her songs are gay and sure they felt more comfortable with the pink leotard and Abba sample than with Timbaland and Kanye West. Too sad because for me HC is obviously one of her best. | |
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I thought some of you would be ecstatic about the "Who's That Girl" performance mention.  | |
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LiveToTell86 said: I thought some of you would be ecstatic about the "Who's That Girl" performance mention.
If its reworked in the degree Vogue or LAP were reworked I might like it. | |
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LiveToTell86 said: I thought some of you would be ecstatic about the "Who's That Girl" performance mention.
I think that's great.It's also good news that she was at least considering "The Look Of Love".She really needs to add more rare songs to her setlists....songs that she hasn't performed in years.On her next major tour,I hope she considers songs like "Angel" and "Physical Attraction". As for "Who's That Girl"...I predict that it will replace "Spanish Lesson".I could see it fitting perfectly in that segment. | |
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SoulAlive said:[quote] LiveToTell86 said: I thought some of you would be ecstatic about the "Who's That Girl" performance mention.
I think that's great.It's also good news that she was at least considering "The Look Of Love".She really needs to add more rare songs to her setlists....songs that she hasn't performed in years.On her next major tour,I hope she considers songs like "Angel" and "Physical Attraction". As for "Who's That Girl"...I predict that it will replace "Spanish Lesson".I could see it fitting perfectly in that segment.[/quote] Definitely. | |
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CrozzaUK said:[quote] SoulAlive said: LiveToTell86 said: I thought some of you would be ecstatic about the "Who's That Girl" performance mention.
I think that's great.It's also good news that she was at least considering "The Look Of Love".She really needs to add more rare songs to her setlists....songs that she hasn't performed in years.On her next major tour,I hope she considers songs like "Angel" and "Physical Attraction". As for "Who's That Girl"...I predict that it will replace "Spanish Lesson".I could see it fitting perfectly in that segment.[/quote] Definitely. Obviously | |
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CrozzaUK said:[quote] SoulAlive said: LiveToTell86 said: I thought some of you would be ecstatic about the "Who's That Girl" performance mention.
I think that's great.It's also good news that she was at least considering "The Look Of Love".She really needs to add more rare songs to her setlists....songs that she hasn't performed in years.On her next major tour,I hope she considers songs like "Angel" and "Physical Attraction". As for "Who's That Girl"...I predict that it will replace "Spanish Lesson".I could see it fitting perfectly in that segment.[/quote] Definitely. Me too. And as for the look of love - excellent song. Wish it had been included along with Angel Have you had your + signs today? | |
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newpowerhippies said: CrozzaUK said: I think that's great.It's also good news that she was at least considering "The Look Of Love".She really needs to add more rare songs to her setlists....songs that she hasn't performed in years.On her next major tour,I hope she considers songs like "Angel" and "Physical Attraction". As for "Who's That Girl"...I predict that it will replace "Spanish Lesson".I could see it fitting perfectly in that segment.[/quote] Definitely. Me too. And as for the look of love - excellent song. Wish it had been included along with Angel I'm in love with Angel, it's got a similiar chord change like Think Of Me. [Edited 4/17/09 15:59pm] | |
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Steven Meisel could be involved in the making of Madonna's upcoming 'GHV3'. It seems that Meisel was hired to create the photoshoot to be used for the album's cover artwork and inside booklet. Madonna and Meisel's latest collaboration was for the 2008 Vanity Fair photoshoot. | |
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^Meisel actually did the Louis Vuitton campaing after Vanity Fair, and the new collaboration will be for the next LV campaign and it's only speculation that the same photos will be used for the GH. | |
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LiveToTell86 said: ^Meisel actually did the Louis Vuitton campaing after Vanity Fair, and the new collaboration will be for the next LV campaign and it's only speculation that the same photos will be used for the GH.
Oh,was quoting from Madge-tribe, it was not my thought. You're right, well, I would be glad if there was a new photoshoot but I'd be fine with anything as long it's not as cheesy as those fake fanmade GH3 covers ! I liked the concept of TIC. I dislike the cover, but I like the fact she did a new shoot for the booklet, than rather just some photos from her 80s career. You know, she didn't have that: "This is a view back" mentality, the album is more a journey and the pictures showed us where she was at the moment (1990) you know what I mean? [Edited 4/18/09 3:20am] | |
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^Yes, I agree, but after that she started to dislike her hits. Even in 1994 she said she would not perform "Material Girl" or "Into The Groove" ever again, which got worse in 1998. GHV2 was released at the peak of this attitude (DWT), so it's no surprise she didn't care at all. Since then she re-embraced some of her biggest hits (only the likes of "Cherish" & "True Blue" are still banned) so she might have a better attitude with this project. | |
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graecophilos said: DaveT said: I like Don't Stop to...far from a masterpiece, by definately a catchy pop tune. Bedtime Stories is an underated album IMO. I found it to be an awesome summer time record, get the top down, go for a drive, CD blarring...Inside of Me was made for hot summer afternoons on the road! Wasn't it released in autumn? Or fall? Last week of October 1994 I believe....but I mean since then, obviously....we have my old cassette of the album in the car and it always goes down well when we're driving in the summer www.filmsfilmsfilms.co.uk - The internet's best movie site! | |
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LiveToTell86 said: ^Yes, I agree, but after that she started to dislike her hits. Even in 1994 she said she would not perform "Material Girl" or "Into The Groove" ever again, which got worse in 1998. GHV2 was released at the peak of this attitude (DWT), so it's no surprise she didn't care at all. Since then she re-embraced some of her biggest hits (only the likes of "Cherish" & "True Blue" are still banned) so she might have a better attitude with this project.
GHV2 suffered from the fact that her #1 ballads were left out. Also she should have included American Pie, which was a hit in Europe. Oh man, that was 9 years ago! | |
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graecophilos said: GHV2 suffered from the fact that her #1 ballads were left out. Also she should have included American Pie, which was a hit in Europe. Oh man, that was 9 years ago! Her #1 ballads were on Something to Remember. It wouldn't make sense to repeat them again on GHV2. I really dislike American Pie. So I didn't miss that one at all. | |
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SoulAlive said: "Secret" is one of Madonna's best singles of the 90s.That song is beautiful
A warm,hypnotic melody and great lyrics....what's not to like? I wouldn't complain if she gave us another single in that vein.
"Your Honesty" is a good song,too.It should have replaced "Don't Stop" on Bedtime Stories.It's a stronger,better song. I think Bedtime Stories is PERFECT as is. The outtakes, for me, are all sub par to the fantastic, all killer, no filler album tracks. I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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graecophilos said: LiveToTell86 said: ^Meisel actually did the Louis Vuitton campaing after Vanity Fair, and the new collaboration will be for the next LV campaign and it's only speculation that the same photos will be used for the GH.
Oh,was quoting from Madge-tribe, it was not my thought. You're right, well, I would be glad if there was a new photoshoot but I'd be fine with anything as long it's not as cheesy as those fake fanmade GH3 covers ! I liked the concept of TIC. I dislike the cover, but I like the fact she did a new shoot for the booklet, than rather just some photos from her 80s career. You know, she didn't have that: "This is a view back" mentality, the album is more a journey and the pictures showed us where she was at the moment (1990) you know what I mean? [Edited 4/18/09 3:20am] 
this was supposed to be the cover for IC, but Warner decided it was too risque and did the logo cover. You CANNOT use the name of God, or religion, to justify acts of violence, to hurt, to hate, to discriminate- Madonna
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ehuffnsd said: graecophilos said: Oh,was quoting from Madge-tribe, it was not my thought. You're right, well, I would be glad if there was a new photoshoot but I'd be fine with anything as long it's not as cheesy as those fake fanmade GH3 covers ! I liked the concept of TIC. I dislike the cover, but I like the fact she did a new shoot for the booklet, than rather just some photos from her 80s career. You know, she didn't have that: "This is a view back" mentality, the album is more a journey and the pictures showed us where she was at the moment (1990) you know what I mean? [Edited 4/18/09 3:20am]
this was supposed to be the cover for IC, but Warner decided it was too risque and did the logo cover. OH NO!!! This would have been the best cover ever! | |
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Glindathegood said: graecophilos said: GHV2 suffered from the fact that her #1 ballads were left out. Also she should have included American Pie, which was a hit in Europe. Oh man, that was 9 years ago! Her #1 ballads were on Something to Remember. It wouldn't make sense to repeat them again on GHV2. I really dislike American Pie. So I didn't miss that one at all. I ner coul follow that logic. So what, Playground was on STR, but Music was on Music and also on GHV2, which was only released one year after the Music album. Fact is: GHV2 is a crap greatest hits album for Madonna because she intensively left out #1. And not all who have STR have GHV2 and otherwhise. This would have been the best tracklist Erotica Deeper And Deeper This Used To Be My Playground I'll Remember Secret Human Nature Take A Bow You'll See Don't Cry For Me Argentina Frozen Ray Of Light The Power Of Goodbye Drowned World/Substitute For Love Beautiful Stranger American Pie Music Don't Tell Me What It Feels Like For A Girl and some bonus track | |
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Who's that Girl, live? No way. Has to be fake...but, then, it IS on Madonna.com...
If she's not going to bother trying to sing the song well, then leave it. That would be terrible to hear her butcher such a dope song, which is really just a rewrite of an even doper song that is already in the set. Judging by her vocals on S&S...here's hoping the WTG rumors are false. Go for something you aint gotta bother singing well, girl! Burning Up...I'm So Stupid...something rock. Honestly, replace your horrible rendition of Borderline, which is a classic that requires a well sung melody... I kinda hope that she doesn't do another studio album for a LONG TIME (Live Nation deal will have problems, no doubt, as they have NO idea how to distribute and market albums) and that her 52 year old ass is forced to take a brand new show in the road in 2010 to help LN recoup some more of their cash. Retire the tired ass Candy Shop, 4 Minutes, Hung Up, Ray of Light, Music and Isla Bonita for good! A brand new tour with all completely different songs drawing from her whole catalogue would be great, and I WANT TO HEAR: Everybody Physical Attraction Angel Dress You Up Stay Gambler Crazy For You Look of Love Causing A Commotion Keep it Together Promise to Try Til Death Do us Part Hanky Panky Sooner or Later Rescue Me Erotica Fever Deeper and Deeper Rain Secret Garden Survival Secret Rather Be Your Lover Inside of Me Forbidden Love Love Tried to Welcome Me I Want You You'll See Sky Fits Heaven Power of Goodbye Swim Impressive Instant Dont Tell Me (Letterman Version) Hollywood Love Profusion Jump Get Together Sorry Let it Will Be Voices Heartbeat Incredible I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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Still so torn about Hard Candy by the way.
"Candy Shop," while fun, and has FANTASTIC production by Pharrell - is a decent B side at best. "4 Minutes" has Justin Timberlake. Nuff Said. "Miles Away" is very overrated and simple in my opinion. I DO like it - but it just feels like an inferior rewrite of so many other great sad Madonna ballads. "Dance Tonight" has great potential, but then, Justin is on it, the whole fake flirtation between them ("I'm so into youuuuu") is dumb and unbelievable btwn a 27 year old guy and a 49 year old woman. And there's no bridge...it feels half assed. "Devil Wouldn't Recognize You" is SO dumb. I don't know why it's so loved by Madonna and her fans on this board. In fact, she has the WORST taste in her OWN music - I read an interview that said her fave songs were Candy Shop and this one. It's the 4th version of Cry Me A River with a stupid, predictable melody and really affected pronunciation and lame lyrics ("you're pushing me/right down to the floor" --- really???) Then again - "Give it 2 Me" is an instant CLASSIC; "Heartbeat" is the best song on the record, and one of her best in years; "She's Not Me" is campy trash that is just so bad it's good, and loveable, also a favorite in years; "Incredible" is just that; "Voices" is KILLER; "Spanish Lesson" has the illest hip hop beat I've heard on a pop album in years. And then, "Beat Goes On," the slow grower, has aged in the past year SO WELL - LOVES IT! The vibe is like "Holiday" 2008. I can see those 2 songs going great together on a future tour. So...I feel half of it is pure trash and the other half is exceptional. So weird. Haven't felt that way about a Madonna album since...the last two tracks on "True Blue." I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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graecophilos said: I ner coul follow that logic. So what, Playground was on STR, but Music was on Music and also on GHV2, which was only released one year after the Music album. Fact is: GHV2 is a crap greatest hits album for Madonna because she intensively left out #1. And not all who have STR have GHV2 and otherwhise. There's a difference between studio albums and compilation albums. Studio albums are for the hard core fans, while compilations are aimed at more casual fans. They want you to buy both STR and GHV2. Why would you do that if GHV2 is just a repeat of a lot of stuff on STR, so that makes perfect sense to me. [Edited 4/18/09 12:11pm] | |
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