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Reply #120 posted 03/24/09 4:22pm

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falloff love it!
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Reply #121 posted 03/24/09 4:34pm

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I love it lol
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Reply #122 posted 03/24/09 8:43pm

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VinnyM27 said:


"Four Mintues" is one of the weaker tracks from "Hard Candy" IMHO and it was one of her biggest hits. It all depends on promotion....IF "Incredible" is a single, it will likely only be serviced to dance clubs and not really promoted (see "Miles Away") and won't do anything for that reason.

I think the trend of putting a promotional push behind the first single and the album and than slowly bailing on the singles/album only to tour will likely be the trend when she moves to Live Nation, who probably ONLY cares about tour dollars. We'll have to wait and see.


agree.I think,from now on,she will mainly concentrate on the first single.She will have a big,high-profile first single to promote her albums,and use that to promote the CD and tour.Follow-up singles won't be very important to her or LiveNation.The days of five singles and videos from a Madonna album are over.They're gonna put the focus on the tours.Singles will become an afterthought.Madonna already started this strategy with Hard Candy.She made a big,expensive video for "4 Minutes" but didn't invest alot of time and effort on the other two singles.She put all her energy and attention into the tour.This strategy makes sense because let's face it,Madonna is 50.Radio will be reluctant to play her singles anyway.She's adapting to this new reality.


Kind of a let down for the fans. Madonna used to be all about the music videos. I guess those were the days, huh?
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Reply #123 posted 03/24/09 10:46pm

SoulAlive

Yeah but videos are becoming obsolete anyway.The so-called "music video channels" rarely show music videos these days! lol I guess I'm getting older because I've kinda lost interest too.Just give me a kickass CD and a tour and I'm satisfied.
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Reply #124 posted 03/25/09 2:20am

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NEW PIC: Madonna performing "Miles Away" in Buenos Aires on the Sticky and Sweet Tour


I just woke up from a fuzzy dream
You never would believe the things that I have seen
I looked in the mirror and I saw your face
You looked right through me,you were miles away
All my dreams,they fade away
I'll never be the same
If you could see me the way you see yourself
I can't pretend to be someone else

You always love me more,miles away
I hear it in your voice when you're miles away
You're not afraid to tell me,miles away
I guess we're at our best when we're miles away

So far away,so far away
So far away,so far away
So far away,so far away
So far away,so far away



music One of my favorite memories from this tour
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Reply #125 posted 03/25/09 3:33am

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SoulAlive said:

VinnyM27 said:


"Four Mintues" is one of the weaker tracks from "Hard Candy" IMHO and it was one of her biggest hits. It all depends on promotion....IF "Incredible" is a single, it will likely only be serviced to dance clubs and not really promoted (see "Miles Away") and won't do anything for that reason.

I think the trend of putting a promotional push behind the first single and the album and than slowly bailing on the singles/album only to tour will likely be the trend when she moves to Live Nation, who probably ONLY cares about tour dollars. We'll have to wait and see.


agree.I think,from now on,she will mainly concentrate on the first single.She will have a big,high-profile first single to promote her albums,and use that to promote the CD and tour.Follow-up singles won't be very important to her or LiveNation.The days of five singles and videos from a Madonna album are over.They're gonna put the focus on the tours.Singles will become an afterthought.Madonna already started this strategy with Hard Candy.She made a big,expensive video for "4 Minutes" but didn't invest alot of time and effort on the other two singles.She put all her energy and attention into the tour.This strategy makes sense because let's face it,Madonna is 50.Radio will be reluctant to play her singles anyway.She's adapting to this new reality.


Madonna can afford this. But in general I think it's wrong. People should at least set the focus on 3 singles, especially younger artists. When you're young, you gotta do all you can do to make your songs known in order to convince people to attend your shows!

But why do people like Rihanna, JT and Lady Ga Ga release like eight singles from their albums and they seem to be succesful? I don't have the feeling they promote the singles to death yet they're at least top 20 hits.
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Reply #126 posted 03/25/09 3:47am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:



agree.I think,from now on,she will mainly concentrate on the first single.She will have a big,high-profile first single to promote her albums,and use that to promote the CD and tour.Follow-up singles won't be very important to her or LiveNation.The days of five singles and videos from a Madonna album are over.They're gonna put the focus on the tours.Singles will become an afterthought.Madonna already started this strategy with Hard Candy.She made a big,expensive video for "4 Minutes" but didn't invest alot of time and effort on the other two singles.She put all her energy and attention into the tour.This strategy makes sense because let's face it,Madonna is 50.Radio will be reluctant to play her singles anyway.She's adapting to this new reality.


Madonna can afford this. But in general I think it's wrong. People should at least set the focus on 3 singles, especially younger artists. When you're young, you gotta do all you can do to make your songs known in order to convince people to attend your shows!

But why do people like Rihanna, JT and Lady Ga Ga release like eight singles from their albums and they seem to be succesful? I don't have the feeling they promote the singles to death yet they're at least top 20 hits.



It's a youth-driven market now.But it's amazing to me how the "older" artists are much more hardworking than the lazy,newer artists.Madonna has done four tours in this decade alone.Many of these young acts don't tour nearly as much as she does.They just release multiple singles and videos,and then sit on their asses until the next CD is ready for release rolleyes Those artists might have alot of success,but I truly think that an older artist like Madonna is in a better position.She has an entire 25-year catalog of hits.She's able to have successful world tours,which many of those young acts are not capable of.Despite their success on the charts,could Rihanna or LaGaga go on tour for three months and make over $300 million? I don't think so.
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Reply #127 posted 03/25/09 4:03am

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graecophilos said:



Madonna can afford this. But in general I think it's wrong. People should at least set the focus on 3 singles, especially younger artists. When you're young, you gotta do all you can do to make your songs known in order to convince people to attend your shows!

But why do people like Rihanna, JT and Lady Ga Ga release like eight singles from their albums and they seem to be succesful? I don't have the feeling they promote the singles to death yet they're at least top 20 hits.



It's a youth-driven market now.But it's amazing to me how the "older" artists are much more hardworking than the lazy,newer artists.Madonna has done four tours in this decade alone.Many of these young acts don't tour nearly as much as she does.They just release multiple singles and videos,and then sit on their asses until the next CD is ready for release rolleyes Those artists might have alot of success,but I truly think that an older artist like Madonna is in a better position.She has an entire 25-year catalog of hits.She's able to have successful world tours,which many of those young acts are not capable of.Despite their success on the charts,could Rihanna or LaGaga go on tour for three months and make over $300 million? I don't think so.


They could not. But I don't want to hurt younger artists. What I think is that those, who don't have that immense hit catalogue HAVE to promote their singles and HAVE to make them hits. Because people will only come to your concerts when they like enough of your songs. Some teenie band, that depends on their looks but doesn't make memorable songs won't even play in supermarkets when they're older because their songs don't have substance.

Well, so I think it's tough for new artists if they want to make it right: Promoting your songs to make you known and then touring to make money.
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Reply #128 posted 03/25/09 4:04am

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SoulAlive said:




It's a youth-driven market now.But it's amazing to me how the "older" artists are much more hardworking than the lazy,newer artists.Madonna has done four tours in this decade alone.Many of these young acts don't tour nearly as much as she does.They just release multiple singles and videos,and then sit on their asses until the next CD is ready for release rolleyes Those artists might have alot of success,but I truly think that an older artist like Madonna is in a better position.She has an entire 25-year catalog of hits.She's able to have successful world tours,which many of those young acts are not capable of.Despite their success on the charts,could Rihanna or LaGaga go on tour for three months and make over $300 million? I don't think so.


They could not. But I don't want to hurt younger artists. What I think is that those, who don't have that immense hit catalogue HAVE to promote their singles and HAVE to make them hits. Because people will only come to your concerts when they like enough of your songs. Some teenie band, that depends on their looks but doesn't make memorable songs won't even play in supermarkets when they're older because their songs don't have substance.

Well, so I think it's tough for new artists if they want to make it right: Promoting your songs to make you known and then touring to make money.


btw, why are you still awake? It must be night in the USA?! biggrin razz
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Reply #129 posted 03/25/09 4:11am

SoulAlive

I'm a night owl lol plus,I'm doing a little work at home.
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Reply #130 posted 03/25/09 5:16am

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StarCat said:

i find a lot of hits collections to be a disappointment. i'm sure this is another album intended for the general public fans. it bothers me when certain songs that were clearly hits aren't included on a compilation. but with Madonna it would definitely have to be a box set if this is a career spanning hits colection. or at LEAST a 2 disc set. oh well. i know i'll be getting it regardless. lol let the countdown begin.


Let's hope they get it right this time.They need to make it a definitive 2-CD set,including all the singles....with stuff like "Causing A Commotion","Who's That Girl","Angel",etc.Who needs another one disc compilation that excludes many of the hits? Do it right this time!

[Edited 3/18/09 3:11am]


Does ANYBODY need to own Causing A Commotion again? I had happily forgot that song even existed until a moment ago.
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Reply #131 posted 03/25/09 5:21am

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SoulAlive said:



Let's hope they get it right this time.They need to make it a definitive 2-CD set,including all the singles....with stuff like "Causing A Commotion","Who's That Girl","Angel",etc.Who needs another one disc compilation that excludes many of the hits? Do it right this time!




Does ANYBODY need to own Causing A Commotion again? I had happily forgot that song even existed until a moment ago.


I need it hmph! Yes,I already have the 'Who's That Girl' soundtrack,but the sound quality on that CD is awful.I need fresh,clean,remastered versions of "Causing A Commotion" and the title track.
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Reply #132 posted 03/25/09 1:54pm

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SoulAlive said:

VinnyM27 said:


"Four Mintues" is one of the weaker tracks from "Hard Candy" IMHO and it was one of her biggest hits. It all depends on promotion....IF "Incredible" is a single, it will likely only be serviced to dance clubs and not really promoted (see "Miles Away") and won't do anything for that reason.

I think the trend of putting a promotional push behind the first single and the album and than slowly bailing on the singles/album only to tour will likely be the trend when she moves to Live Nation, who probably ONLY cares about tour dollars. We'll have to wait and see.


agree.I think,from now on,she will mainly concentrate on the first single.She will have a big,high-profile first single to promote her albums,and use that to promote the CD and tour.Follow-up singles won't be very important to her or LiveNation.The days of five singles and videos from a Madonna album are over.They're gonna put the focus on the tours.Singles will become an afterthought.Madonna already started this strategy with Hard Candy.She made a big,expensive video for "4 Minutes" but didn't invest alot of time and effort on the other two singles.She put all her energy and attention into the tour.This strategy makes sense because let's face it,Madonna is 50.Radio will be reluctant to play her singles anyway.She's adapting to this new reality.



Well, as long as the lady keeps knocking out new material for her fans she can promote it however she likes. I think the gal is long over due a break but she just keeps going, god bless her!! And for that we must be thankful. Its hard to say that she is doing it for the dollars. Before HC she could have happily retired and lived more than comfortably off of her millions.

Like Prince, I suspect she keeps on going because she loves it. She seems to be at home on a stage and in the studio. Long may she continue! biggrin
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Reply #133 posted 03/26/09 12:37am

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Rumor of the week: Madonna recorded a duet with Shakira

The song is titled "Forgive" and will be released in May as the first single from Shakira's new CD.The video will be directed by Michael Haussman.It's likely that this tune will also appear on Madonna's upcoming greatest hits package.Shakira and Madonna are labelmates now,both signed to LiveNation Records.

hmmm
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Reply #134 posted 03/26/09 4:02am

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Rumor of the week: Madonna recorded a duet with Shakira

The song is titled "Forgive" and will be released in May as the first single from Shakira's new CD.The video will be directed by Michael Haussman.It's likely that this tune will also appear on Madonna's upcoming greatest hits package.Shakira and Madonna are labelmates now,both signed to LiveNation Records.

hmmm

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Reply #135 posted 03/26/09 4:24am

SoulAlive

graecophilos said:

SoulAlive said:

Rumor of the week: Madonna recorded a duet with Shakira

The song is titled "Forgive" and will be released in May as the first single from Shakira's new CD.The video will be directed by Michael Haussman.It's likely that this tune will also appear on Madonna's upcoming greatest hits package.Shakira and Madonna are labelmates now,both signed to LiveNation Records.

hmmm

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I don't think it's a good idea,either confused but hey,everybody wants to make a song with Madonna these days,lol.
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Reply #136 posted 03/26/09 11:48am

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Rumor of the week: Madonna recorded a duet with Shakira

The song is titled "Forgive" and will be released in May as the first single from Shakira's new CD.The video will be directed by Michael Haussman.It's likely that this tune will also appear on Madonna's upcoming greatest hits package.Shakira and Madonna are labelmates now,both signed to LiveNation Records.

hmmm

Stranger (and worse soudning) things have happened...the underwhelming Britney duet, for example.
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Reply #137 posted 03/28/09 2:09am

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I think the Shakira rumour comes from the fact that she has worked with Pharrell.

Madonna supposedly flies to Malawi today. Seems she's not doing any work done till the tour, which is fine with me.
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Reply #138 posted 03/28/09 3:43am

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I think the Shakira rumour comes from the fact that she has worked with Pharrell.

Madonna supposedly flies to Malawi today. Seems she's not doing any work done till the tour, which is fine with me.


well, she'll certainly will do anything, but not necesarrily in public.

Adopting a child is a big step which would be a landmark in everyone's life. It's not as if she's doing nothing.

I'm sure she's working on some film script, since she loves directing...

Probably negotiating with producers, her record company?

And reheresals and and and...
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Reply #139 posted 03/28/09 7:13am

SoulAlive

Our local news just did a story on the adoption going on in Malawi right now.Apparently,Madonna is gonna adopt a little girl this time.Her name is Merci.
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Reply #140 posted 03/28/09 7:17am

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Our local news just did a story on the adoption going on in Malawi right now.Apparently,Madonna is gonna adopt a little girl this time.Her name is Merci.


"Oh-oh, oh, merci, merci, merci me..."
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Reply #141 posted 03/28/09 11:54am

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VinnyM27 said:

SoulAlive said:

Rumor of the week: Madonna recorded a duet with Shakira

The song is titled "Forgive" and will be released in May as the first single from Shakira's new CD.The video will be directed by Michael Haussman.It's likely that this tune will also appear on Madonna's upcoming greatest hits package.Shakira and Madonna are labelmates now,both signed to LiveNation Records.

hmmm

Stranger (and worse soudning) things have happened...the underwhelming Britney duet, for example.


no fucking way. LiveNation Records? Is that a registered trademark NAME of a label putting out records now??? Riiiiight...
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Reply #142 posted 03/28/09 7:42pm

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Hard Candy had some really good commercial singles. How did she screw up the release of the singles on this cd? confuse
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Reply #143 posted 03/28/09 8:53pm

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Hard Candy had some really good commercial singles. How did she screw up the release of the singles on this cd? confuse


'Hard Candy' is probably the most commercial album Madonna ever made.There were at least five potential singles on this album but since she's leaving Warners,neither side really cared about promoting the songs.I heard that they are really pissed at her for leaving which is why they didn't even bother to promote the album's best song "Miles Away" (arguably,one of her finest singles).
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Reply #144 posted 03/28/09 10:16pm

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SoulAlive said:

jthad1129 said:

Hard Candy had some really good commercial singles. How did she screw up the release of the singles on this cd? confuse


'Hard Candy' is probably the most commercial album Madonna ever made.There were at least five potential singles on this album but since she's leaving Warners,neither side really cared about promoting the songs.I heard that they are really pissed at her for leaving which is why they didn't even bother to promote the album's best song "Miles Away" (arguably,one of her finest singles).



I don't think Miles Away or Give It To Me stood a snowball's chance in hell of being a hit on US radio; if she was smart, she would've released Devil or Beat as the second single.

I just don't think Madge was interested in releasing the more commercial songs for this CD. shrug She still made her money from this era, I think that's all she really cares about at this juncture. The days of her having multiple hits from one CD are long gone, IMO.
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Reply #145 posted 03/28/09 11:13pm

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Sunday, 29 March 2009

Madonna chats to fans on Twitter
Madonna is 'glad' she divorced Guy Ritchie.
The 4 Minutes singer was speaking to fans on her long-time friend and producer Guy Oseary's Twitter page when one admirer wrote: 'Hello Madonna honey am glad you are single again - you made your best music as a single woman! yeehaw!'(sic)
Just minutes later the singer apparently replied: 'Not as glad as I am! M.'
The 50-year-old singer spent 10 minutes online chatting to members of her fan club to thank them for their support and get feedback on their favourite songs for her forthcoming greatest hits album.
'Sitting here with Madonna. Firstly, she wants to say hello to all the fan club members out there,' wrote Oseary.
'Madonna wants to thank all of you that took the time to send in their thoughts for the greatest hits album. We will be online for the next 10 minutes.'
Before she signed off, Madonna accused gossip blogger Perez Hilton of preferring Britney Spears because he made a special video clip for her to play during her current Circus tour.
'You obviously love Britney more cause you made an opening film for her show and not mine. I still love you, - going to sleep! - M,'(sic) Madonna joked.
From www.news24.com

NOTE: Madonna.com confirmed the chat was real by posting:

Twitter Update - Madonna would like to thank all of the Iconers who visited Guy Oseary's Twitter page to say hi! Stay tuned as Madonna could be back on Twitter again in a near future....
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I Am Because We Are Online Debut
I Am Because We Are will be featured on Hulu.com from Thursday 26 March.
The remarkable documentary film by director Nathan Rissman and Raising Malawi co-founder Madonna, documents the extraordinary challenges faced by Malawian children in the wake of the AIDS pandemic.

While the film features appearances by Madonna, Archbishop Desmond Tutu and President Bill Clinton, its real stars are the spirited children whose stories so heart wrenchingly relate the complexities of life in the developing world.

I Am Because We Are has inspired audiences at film festivals worldwide with its message of interdependence and intrinsic connection between all peoples. Its title is derived from a concept in African spirituality which states that the very existence of any one of us is defined by the well-being of others.

After a successful featured run on The Sundance Channel, the film’s message of global interconnectedness now arrives at a very fitting venue on the worldwide web. Spread the word: I Am Because We Are enjoys a limited six-week online engagement at Hulu.com beginning this Thursday 26 March at

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Reply #147 posted 03/29/09 2:32am

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SoulAlive said:

jthad1129 said:

Hard Candy had some really good commercial singles. How did she screw up the release of the singles on this cd? confuse


'Hard Candy' is probably the most commercial album Madonna ever made.There were at least five potential singles on this album but since she's leaving Warners,neither side really cared about promoting the songs.I heard that they are really pissed at her for leaving which is why they didn't even bother to promote the album's best song "Miles Away" (arguably,one of her finest singles).


Yeah, I agree. You and I still like HC very much, don't we? But in all honesty, I don't care what she releases as a single and what not anymore, since I do have the songs.

Btw, in Europe the HC singles were top 20 hits. I believe in Norway every song was #1 and in Germany she had #1, #8 and #11.
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Reply #148 posted 03/29/09 2:37am

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Axchi696 said:

SoulAlive said:



'Hard Candy' is probably the most commercial album Madonna ever made.There were at least five potential singles on this album but since she's leaving Warners,neither side really cared about promoting the songs.I heard that they are really pissed at her for leaving which is why they didn't even bother to promote the album's best song "Miles Away" (arguably,one of her finest singles).



I don't think Miles Away or Give It To Me stood a snowball's chance in hell of being a hit on US radio; if she was smart, she would've released Devil or Beat as the second single.

I just don't think Madge was interested in releasing the more commercial songs for this CD. shrug She still made her money from this era, I think that's all she really cares about at this juncture. The days of her having multiple hits from one CD are long gone, IMO.



I think these should have been the singles:

"4 Minutes"
"Beat Goes On" (this song has all the makings of a Top 10 pop smash)
"Miles Away" (with a good video and promotion)

"Heartbeat" and "Dance 2Night" should have been remixed for the clubs.

Alot of fans think "Devil" should have been a single but I'm not totally convinced.
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Reply #149 posted 03/29/09 6:17am

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These could (should!) have been singles imo!

4 Minutes (obvious first single choice because of JT and the Timbo sound. I think the song is okay, a progressed version of My Elevator)

Beat Goes On (to accent the danceey spirit of the album and because it's a cool pop song!! PW and Kanye as assistents could have worked well, too)

Miles Away (Well, in Germany it was a huge radio and top 20 hit, and I always said in some European single markets it would work well as a... summer song. Many think it's a autumn song but when we first got the 1min clip on youtube of that japanese series I felt a lite summer vibe of the song!!!)

Give It 2 Me - it's not my personal fave but it's a cool song and again it was a big hit in most European countries!

Heartbeat - my favorite song of HC, one of my all time faves by Madonna! I can't understand how some fell it's just a filler? In everyone other's hand it could have been a real good single hit. The Pussy Shaved Dolls would have been proud PW would have given the song to them! i always imagined this to be released in Feb/March 2009

She's Not Me - Would work well iN Europe! It's a cool and fun song, inspired by Ring My Bell (the same chord change and the disco vibe). The song is underrated imo! Even if it's not a single, it is such a good album song. COADF would have been happy to have such a strong album song. i always imagined this to be released in May/June 2009

Devil Wouldn'T.... I can see why people like it, but it's just not my type of ballad. I was never keen on Cry Me A River either! I think the melody is very "obvious", the song never managed to suprise me unlike most of the other HC songs!

But honestly, should she change her release gap? I've got the feeling that people like Rihanna or Kanye release their singles every month. And why not? If the lead single was a hit, and the other songs manage to crack the top 20 it's a good achievement! the gaps were far too long period!!!
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