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Reply #390 posted 05/01/09 1:36pm

Glindathegood

I don't see why Stuart would be mad because she worked with someone else. Working with Madonna you know she likes to change her sound and work with different producers. I don't see why anyone would expect if she worked with you on one record, she would necessarily want to work with you again.
As I remember, Stuart said she had decided to go R&B and that really wasn't his area and so he wasn't working on it. He didn't seem to have a problem with her going in a different direction. I don't see why he would. It's her record after all and it's her choice to do what she wants to dot.
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Reply #391 posted 05/01/09 2:56pm

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She was never in quarrels with Stuart, he accepted and encouraged Madonna into the HC direction. He did diss Pharrell's style in another interview though.



oh really? because last i remembered, he was eating sour grapes straight from the stem saying that she had sold out or somesuch nonsense by going the Timbaland/Pharrell route.


http://jam.canoe.ca/Music...6-sun.html

"I was just thinking about what I wanted to do next. I'd made a dance record -- my last album (2005's Confessions On A Dance Floor) -- which was mostly house music, and I was sitting around talking to (previous songwriting-producing collaborator) Stuart Price one day and he said, 'Well what do you want to do next?' I said, 'I want to make dance music as always.'

And he said, 'Well, what kind of music do you like right now?' And I said, 'Well, the only records I love are Justin's and Timbaland's.' And he said, 'Well, why don't you work with them?' So I did. It's a great sound, so why not?"


Other than this, he gave an interview to BBC where she said that Madonna went to the urban route without any remark, and then there's the infamous MixMag quote where he said Pharrell just recycles stuff. That's hardly a diss of Madonna "selling out", he just said his opinion about Pharrell.

There was no beef between M and Stuart, no matter what the Hard Candy dislikers want to believe. I'm sure Stuart is eternally grateful that Madonna worked with him for seven years and as Glinda said, he surely didn't expect Madonna to forever work with him.

LOL @ badujunkie! I have to agree, "Vogue" is a milestone in her career, but Madonna did not part ways with Shep well, so that's probably why she didn't thank him...
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Reply #392 posted 05/01/09 3:53pm

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mancabdriver said:

What's the point of her doing classics? She always f**** them up when she tries to remix / re-invent them:

hence: live to tell, erotica, like a virgin, burning up, borderline - on her last fewtours.


I really like the reworked version of Erotica, and i thought Burning Up was ok - but i agree the rest were pretty poor.

Her reworked versions of Vogue, Into The Groove & Like A Prayer on this tour are very good though. Ive got the studio demo remix of Vogue and it sounds brilliant with Timbalands beat, and played loud.


I think harcore fans appreciate the reworked versions - I as a casual fan would like to hear songs as i know them.
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Reply #393 posted 05/01/09 5:20pm

LiveToTell86

From ICON mag:

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Reply #394 posted 05/02/09 8:59am

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LiveToTell86 said:

From ICON mag:


Does she do this all the time? Seems like she rarely reaches out to fans like this and tells us what is going on. Than again, maybe she doesn't know....The Greatest Hits coming out this Spring? Does she have her seasons confused? Can't wait for the DVD (if that actually happens, too).
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Reply #395 posted 05/02/09 9:11am

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eek It lives!!! It speaks!!

lol @ the "abducted"...I believe that should be "abdicated"! Freudian slip? razz
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #396 posted 05/02/09 10:18am

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i ike when she writes us letters and twitters.
I was surprise she said spring. but maybe it will be out til the end of June?
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Reply #397 posted 05/02/09 10:27am

LiveToTell86

She used to do the ICON letters a long time ago, but now it's getting back in fashion, with Guy confirming so much stuff lately and them Twittering very often. It's a change of the way she's marketed. We know more about the GH session than any of her other studio sessions this decade. In the past it was fansites giving out these tidbits, now they changed the ways.

The seasons and the "abducted" are mistakes, in the same issue Liz Rosenberg said it's coming the fall. If it came in June, it would be a good idea, but then they would have announced release dates and everything already.
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Reply #398 posted 05/02/09 12:09pm

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LiveToTell86 said:

She used to do the ICON letters a long time ago, but now it's getting back in fashion, with Guy confirming so much stuff lately and them Twittering very often. It's a change of the way she's marketed. We know more about the GH session than any of her other studio sessions this decade. In the past it was fansites giving out these tidbits, now they changed the ways.

The seasons and the "abducted" are mistakes, in the same issue Liz Rosenberg said it's coming the fall. If it came in June, it would be a good idea, but then they would have announced release dates and everything already.


yeah, probably. though two months should need for proper promotion. And then she'll tour. would be cool.
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Reply #399 posted 05/03/09 12:35am

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I don't think she writes those. ICON is a mess, was never worth it even at my hardcore-est - always had inaccurate bullshit.
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Reply #400 posted 05/03/09 5:57am

LiveToTell86

"Holiday" & "Dress You Up" are strongly rumoured as the new songs for the show. One of them is definitely replacing a Hard Candy track, but the other one might be just an addition (like instead of the request section?)...
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Reply #401 posted 05/03/09 2:44pm

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LiveToTell86 said:

"Holiday" & "Dress You Up" are strongly rumoured as the new songs for the show. One of them is definitely replacing a Hard Candy track, but the other one might be just an addition (like instead of the request section?)...


Everytime someone in M's camp takes a big turd, Dress You up is rumored to be in the set.
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Reply #402 posted 05/03/09 4:50pm

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badujunkie said:

LiveToTell86 said:

"Holiday" & "Dress You Up" are strongly rumoured as the new songs for the show. One of them is definitely replacing a Hard Candy track, but the other one might be just an addition (like instead of the request section?)...


Everytime someone in M's camp takes a big turd, Dress You up is rumored to be in the set.


why not? She only did it twice, such a shame. an underrated classic. The chorus is one of her best.

You can say what you want... personally I think her songs written with S. Bray from 1984 are boring (save for Angel) but her A&R man got M three perfect songs that helped defining her image:

Material Girl - it's still quoted when it comes to her business
LAV - first controversy
Dress You Up - she had a strange style and the song served as a theme for that.

without these songs she would not have become the superstar she is! Into The Groove was great but nothing new,´the usual themes: dancing, romancing, waiting/hesistating
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Reply #403 posted 05/03/09 11:59pm

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LiveToTell86 said:

From ICON mag:



"somewhere unbelievable"? hmmm
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Reply #404 posted 05/04/09 12:36am

SoulAlive

Liz "The Validator" interviews Madonna:

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Reply #405 posted 05/04/09 4:58am

SoulAlive

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I don't think she writes those. ICON is a mess, was never worth it even at my hardcore-est - always had inaccurate bullshit.


I just downloaded the new issue #51 and I think it's one of the best issues ever.Lots of color pictures and they brought back Liz "The Validator"! lol She always sets the record straight and lets you know what's really going on.Compared to recent issues,this one seems like they actually put some effort into it.I joined the fanclub strictly for the concert ticket presales,but getting ICON is a nice feature.

[Edited 5/4/09 5:25am]
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Reply #406 posted 05/04/09 6:15am

SoulAlive

LiveToTell86 said:

"Holiday" & "Dress You Up" are strongly rumoured as the new songs for the show. One of them is definitely replacing a Hard Candy track, but the other one might be just an addition (like instead of the request section?)...



"Holiday"? Nah,she should let that song continue to rest for awhile.She's performed it on too many tours already.

"Dress You Up" thumbs up! That would be a good choice.Fans are starving to hear her perform it again.

I wonder if "Angel" will ever be considered again? That's my favorite song from LAV.
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Reply #407 posted 05/04/09 8:42am

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SoulAlive said:

LiveToTell86 said:

From ICON mag:



"somewhere unbelievable"? hmmm


Iran
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Reply #408 posted 05/04/09 1:36pm

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graecophilos said:

SoulAlive said:



"somewhere unbelievable"? hmmm


Iran


Heck, at this point Australia would qualify as unbelievable!! lol How many times has she/manager promised to go there?
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #409 posted 05/05/09 11:57am

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graecophilos said:

badujunkie said:



Everytime someone in M's camp takes a big turd, Dress You up is rumored to be in the set.


why not? She only did it twice, such a shame. an underrated classic. The chorus is one of her best.

You can say what you want... personally I think her songs written with S. Bray from 1984 are boring (save for Angel) but her A&R man got M three perfect songs that helped defining her image:

Material Girl - it's still quoted when it comes to her business
LAV - first controversy
Dress You Up - she had a strange style and the song served as a theme for that.

without these songs she would not have become the superstar she is! Into The Groove was great but nothing new,´the usual themes: dancing, romancing, waiting/hesistating


I think you underestimate what songs did or did not make her. Clearly she had a strong run with those songs, but if she had not done...Into the Groove, Crazy For you, Live to Tell and Papa don't Preach...and eventually LAP, EY and Vogue she would not be where she is today. SHe had to get through her first decade in order to be where she is and be able to do what's she's doing. One or two records would not have defined her stardom. Stars can quickly fall and I think Madonna kept her hat int he ring and never stopped for 10 years.

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Reply #410 posted 05/05/09 12:14pm

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graecophilos said:



why not? She only did it twice, such a shame. an underrated classic. The chorus is one of her best.

You can say what you want... personally I think her songs written with S. Bray from 1984 are boring (save for Angel) but her A&R man got M three perfect songs that helped defining her image:

Material Girl - it's still quoted when it comes to her business
LAV - first controversy
Dress You Up - she had a strange style and the song served as a theme for that.

without these songs she would not have become the superstar she is! Into The Groove was great but nothing new,´the usual themes: dancing, romancing, waiting/hesistating


I think you underestimate what songs did or did not make her. Clearly she had a strong run with those songs, but if she had not done...Into the Groove, Crazy For you, Live to Tell and Papa don't Preach...and eventually LAP, EY and Vogue she would not be where she is today. SHe had to get through her first decade in order to be where she is and be able to do what's she's doing. One or two records would not have defined her stardom. Stars can quickly fall and I think Madonna kept her hat int he ring and never stopped for 10 years.


These are the songs that 'made' her and have 'kept' her alive, in my EVER so VERY humble opinion:

Borderline
Lucky Star
Like A Virgin
Material Girl
Into the Groove
Crazy For You
Papa Don't Preach
Like A Prayer
Express Yourself
Vogue
Justify My Love
Take A Bow
Ray of Light
Music
Don't Tell Me
Hung Up

Period.
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Reply #411 posted 05/05/09 1:28pm

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badujunkie said:

superspaceboy said:



I think you underestimate what songs did or did not make her. Clearly she had a strong run with those songs, but if she had not done...Into the Groove, Crazy For you, Live to Tell and Papa don't Preach...and eventually LAP, EY and Vogue she would not be where she is today. SHe had to get through her first decade in order to be where she is and be able to do what's she's doing. One or two records would not have defined her stardom. Stars can quickly fall and I think Madonna kept her hat int he ring and never stopped for 10 years.


These are the songs that 'made' her and have 'kept' her alive, in my EVER so VERY humble opinion:

Borderline
Lucky Star
Like A Virgin
Material Girl
Into the Groove
Crazy For You
Papa Don't Preach
Like A Prayer
Express Yourself
Vogue
Justify My Love
Take A Bow
Ray of Light
Music
Don't Tell Me
Hung Up

Period.


I think it's tough. But then again Frozen was the real big surprise in 1998, lead single etc and Don't Tell Me was a big hit but Music alone would have been enough as well.
And what about 4 Minutes, which provided her her biggest us hit since 1990, though I would agree it won't be seen as important soon.
Holiday on the other hand has had a much longer breath than Borderline or Lucky Star.
at the end of the day we have to admit that her scandals (linked with certain songs) helped the most. LAV, Papa, LAP come into mind.
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Reply #412 posted 05/05/09 1:46pm

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badujunkie said:

superspaceboy said:



I think you underestimate what songs did or did not make her. Clearly she had a strong run with those songs, but if she had not done...Into the Groove, Crazy For you, Live to Tell and Papa don't Preach...and eventually LAP, EY and Vogue she would not be where she is today. SHe had to get through her first decade in order to be where she is and be able to do what's she's doing. One or two records would not have defined her stardom. Stars can quickly fall and I think Madonna kept her hat int he ring and never stopped for 10 years.


These are the songs that 'made' her and have 'kept' her alive, in my EVER so VERY humble opinion:

Borderline
Lucky Star
Like A Virgin
Material Girl
Into the Groove
Crazy For You
Papa Don't Preach
Like A Prayer
Express Yourself
Vogue
Justify My Love
Take A Bow
Ray of Light
Music
Don't Tell Me
Hung Up

Period.

I agree those are the songs that brought her back each time. She also did the SEX book and Evita...big milestones. Her tours are always news worthy too.

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Reply #413 posted 05/05/09 1:52pm

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graecophilos said:

badujunkie said:



These are the songs that 'made' her and have 'kept' her alive, in my EVER so VERY humble opinion:

Borderline
Lucky Star
Like A Virgin
Material Girl
Into the Groove
Crazy For You
Papa Don't Preach
Like A Prayer
Express Yourself
Vogue
Justify My Love
Take A Bow
Ray of Light
Music
Don't Tell Me
Hung Up

Period.


I think it's tough. But then again Frozen was the real big surprise in 1998, lead single etc and Don't Tell Me was a big hit but Music alone would have been enough as well.
And what about 4 Minutes, which provided her her biggest us hit since 1990, though I would agree it won't be seen as important soon.
Holiday on the other hand has had a much longer breath than Borderline or Lucky Star.
at the end of the day we have to admit that her scandals (linked with certain songs) helped the most. LAV, Papa, LAP come into mind.


I have to say Holiday has gotten more life injected into it over the years that now it seems pretty big. At the time...not so much. I have to say as big as Frozen was, ROL was much bigger. I think 4 minutes should be included. I hit a huge milestone for her and was big...maybe bigger than Hung up.

I don't think that she has ever had scandals...more was scandelous and titilating.

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Reply #414 posted 05/05/09 1:54pm

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Metropolitan Museum of Art Costume Institute Gala
Madonna attended the Metropolitan Museum of Art's Costume Institute Gala - The Model as Muse: Embodying Fashion - in New York on Monday 04 May.
Madonna certainly stood out from the crowd in an outfit from Louis Vuitton's Autumn/Winter 09 collection.


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Reply #415 posted 05/05/09 4:29pm

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she looks greatbut that's not the body of a 20yo!

Her trainer claims that as long as Madonna trains till the end of her life with 70 she'll have the body of a 25 yo.
Imagine that... Madonna, 70 and muscles. But someday she will get weaker she can do what she wants.
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Reply #416 posted 05/05/09 8:42pm

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she looks good


you have to wonder how much is actual fitness though - it's just NOT natural for a 50 year old woman to have THAT body! just NOT! no matter how much diet and exercise...

...you gotta figure it's gotta be also some lipo, colonics (?), spanx, titty jobs, lotion, moisturizer, ...etc etc...

Right? neutral
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Reply #417 posted 05/06/09 9:16am

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Sorry but that outfit makes me giggle !!
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Reply #418 posted 05/06/09 10:56am

LiveToTell86

badujunkie said:

LiveToTell86 said:

"Holiday" & "Dress You Up" are strongly rumoured as the new songs for the show. One of them is definitely replacing a Hard Candy track, but the other one might be just an addition (like instead of the request section?)...


Everytime someone in M's camp takes a big turd, Dress You up is rumored to be in the set.


lol I know! That and "Open Your Heart" have been constantly rumoured, now that "Borderline" has been performed again. But "DYU" has been mentioned by a reliable fan.

I love the outfit, she looked great.
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Reply #419 posted 05/06/09 11:37am

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she looks good


you have to wonder how much is actual fitness though - it's just NOT natural for a 50 year old woman to have THAT body! just NOT! no matter how much diet and exercise...

...you gotta figure it's gotta be also some lipo, colonics (?), spanx, titty jobs, lotion, moisturizer, ...etc etc...

Right? neutral


Well, who knows. It's quite possible she got some lipo and stuff. Her face is worked as well.
But the muscles are real. And I really believe she works out hard.
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