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Thread started 03/15/09 1:03am

Sdldawn

Just listening to a few older McCartney tracks..

that often go unheard..

check it

London Town
Letting Go
Lunch Box - Odd Sox
Winter Rose + Love Awake
Loup (first indian on the moon)
Beware My Love
Front Parlour
Frozen Jap
Secret Friend
Goodnight Tonight (7 min version)
Kicked Around No More
Here Today
Tragedy
Somebody Who Cares
Single Pigeon
Ram On
Through Our Love
Kreen-Akrore

yay for obscure McCartney music!!
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Reply #1 posted 03/15/09 4:14am

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Sdldawn said:

that often go unheard..

check it

London Town
Letting Go
Lunch Box - Odd Sox
Winter Rose + Love Awake
Loup (first indian on the moon)
Beware My Love
Front Parlour
Frozen Jap
Secret Friend

Goodnight Tonight (7 min version)
Kicked Around No More
Here Today
Tragedy
Somebody Who Cares
Single Pigeon
Ram On
Through Our Love
Kreen-Akrore

yay for obscure McCartney music!!


Well, I guess most people don't know these songs, but the bolt ones are just awful. The McCartney II album is awful, it only has a few good songs.

But great you know Kicked Around No More. A simple song, a B-Side but a nice tune. He should have put that on Off The Ground instead of some of the few fillers (I like OTG)
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Reply #2 posted 03/15/09 4:31am

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My girlfriend has XM radio in her car and there is a dedicated Paul McCartney station called "Paul McCartney's Fireman Radio". I heard stuff on there that I've never heard before (and I thought I had heard it all).

SIRIUS channel 33 and XM channel 27.
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Se7en said:

My girlfriend has XM radio in her car and there is a dedicated Paul McCartney station called "Paul McCartney's Fireman Radio". I heard stuff on there that I've never heard before (and I thought I had heard it all).

SIRIUS channel 33 and XM channel 27.


what did they play?


I have many bootlegs, some are quite intersting. there are takes from the Ebony & Ivory recording sessions, with Stevie Wonder. That's really intersting to hear Stevie studio talking.
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graecophilos said:

Se7en said:

My girlfriend has XM radio in her car and there is a dedicated Paul McCartney station called "Paul McCartney's Fireman Radio". I heard stuff on there that I've never heard before (and I thought I had heard it all).

SIRIUS channel 33 and XM channel 27.


what did they play?


I have many bootlegs, some are quite intersting. there are takes from the Ebony & Ivory recording sessions, with Stevie Wonder. That's really intersting to hear Stevie studio talking.
[Edited 3/15/09 8:21am]


Honestly, I couldn't tell you . . . I just remember liking it all. We were driving and had that station on; they played familiar tracks, live tracks, and some of the unfamiliar ones I mentioned.

At the end of our driving trip was a 15+ minute remix of No More Lonely Nights. That one I didn't care for too much, because it had that 80's dance feel to it (which dated it IMO).

Maybe they have a playlist online of what's currently playing?
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Reply #5 posted 03/15/09 8:43am

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One thing I forgot to mention is that there were a lot of spoken bits and parts where Paul was DJ'ing. Very similar to Prince's Ahdio Transmissions from 2001, but a whole station like that.
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Se7en said:

One thing I forgot to mention is that there were a lot of spoken bits and parts where Paul was DJ'ing. Very similar to Prince's Ahdio Transmissions from 2001, but a whole station like that.


So you were probably listening to Oobu Joobu
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Reply #7 posted 03/15/09 10:04am

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"Back to the Egg" was the bomb!
It was a great concept album and is still one of my faves...
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Reply #8 posted 03/15/09 10:14am

Se7en

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graecophilos said:

Se7en said:

One thing I forgot to mention is that there were a lot of spoken bits and parts where Paul was DJ'ing. Very similar to Prince's Ahdio Transmissions from 2001, but a whole station like that.


So you were probably listening to Oobu Joobu


No, wasn't Oobu Joobu -- I have that. These songs I heard weren't anything ecology-related. The spoken parts sounded new (the whole station is a "new" project).

These sounded like they could've been B-Sides from his early solo work or unreleased songs.
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Reply #9 posted 03/15/09 11:42am

DiamondGlove

He sucks. Everything about him is so boring.
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Reply #10 posted 03/15/09 11:50am

Sdldawn

graecophilos said:

Sdldawn said:

that often go unheard..

check it

London Town
Letting Go
Lunch Box - Odd Sox
Winter Rose + Love Awake
Loup (first indian on the moon)
Beware My Love
Front Parlour
Frozen Jap
Secret Friend

Goodnight Tonight (7 min version)
Kicked Around No More
Here Today
Tragedy
Somebody Who Cares
Single Pigeon
Ram On
Through Our Love
Kreen-Akrore

yay for obscure McCartney music!!


Well, I guess most people don't know these songs, but the bolt ones are just awful. The McCartney II album is awful, it only has a few good songs.

But great you know Kicked Around No More. A simple song, a B-Side but a nice tune. He should have put that on Off The Ground instead of some of the few fillers (I like OTG)


McCarntey II isn't very good, However, those bold ones I have come to appreciate.. I dig the instrumentals
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Reply #11 posted 03/15/09 1:25pm

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DiamondGlove said:

He sucks. Everything about him is so boring.


well, I prefer John Lennon too. But one can't say he sucks musically. He's one of the best songwriters ever, and certainly the most succesful. Although his biggest success Paul had with the Beatles, his achievements within this band are so huge that I consider him the most succesful musician alive.
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Reply #12 posted 03/15/09 7:50pm

Sdldawn

graecophilos said:

DiamondGlove said:

He sucks. Everything about him is so boring.


well, I prefer John Lennon too. But one can't say he sucks musically. He's one of the best songwriters ever, and certainly the most succesful. Although his biggest success Paul had with the Beatles, his achievements within this band are so huge that I consider him the most succesful musician alive.


no doubt on that..


his contributions to the beatles music was a template for music for the last 40 years
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Reply #13 posted 03/15/09 10:53pm

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'Somebody Who Cares' is a great song. Which features another kewl bass player Stanley Clarke.
‎"The first time I saw the cover of Dirty Mind in the early 80s I thought, 'Is this some drag queen ripping on Freddie Prinze?'" - Some guy on The Gear Page
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Reply #14 posted 03/16/09 6:21am

CrozzaUK

Sdldawn said:

that often go unheard..

check it

London Town
Letting Go
Lunch Box - Odd Sox
Winter Rose + Love Awake
Loup (first indian on the moon)
Beware My Love
Front Parlour
Frozen Jap
Secret Friend
Goodnight Tonight (7 min version)
Kicked Around No More
Here Today
Tragedy
Somebody Who Cares
Single Pigeon
Ram On
Through Our Love
Kreen-Akrore

yay for obscure McCartney music!!


I got really into McCartney's solo stuff quite a few years agon now, but haven't really paid him much attention lately. He's certainly underrated in many respects.....always capable of crafting a good tune - one of the best melody writers in popular music.

Not too keen on the selection you've chosen here. I love Here Today, Letting Go & London Town though.

Paul has been his own worst enemy at pushing his solo stuff. His tendancies to indulge himself in musical doodles, and not push himself lyrically have led to a few embarassing moments on his record that unfortunately lead to the good stuff being overlooked. He's never done a decent retrospective that did him justice either. Wingspan was a big disapoointment.

I wish he'd go into more writing collaborations such as those with Elvis Costello. That Day Is Done & The Lovers That never Were are 2 of my favourite songs he's done post Beatles. Such collaborations have a tendancy to curb his more wacky ideas.
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Reply #15 posted 03/16/09 6:59am

Copycat

'Kicked Around No More' is the b-side of 'Hope For Deliverance' and it's gorgeous. I'd love to see an official McCartney box set of unleased material.
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Reply #16 posted 03/16/09 7:09am

optimus

WE ALL STAND TOGETHER! have u heard that song? so funny lol
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #17 posted 03/16/09 10:03am

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I find Paul did in every decade since the Beatles' breakup a real good album. Well at least, imo.

Band On The Run (1973)
Tug Of War (1982)
Flaming Pie (1997)
Memory Almost Full (2007)

Band On the Run is perfect, Tug Of War, well, it's good, but IF (but he didn't) have written the Jacksons songs and So Bad yet, and have included those it would have been an AMAZING album:

"Tug of War" – 4:22
"Take It Away" – 4:14
"Somebody Who Cares" – 3:19
"What's That You're Doing?"
"Here Today" – 2:27
"Ballroom Dancing
"The Pound Is Sinking" – 2:54
"The Man
"Get It" – 2:29
"Say Say Say
"So Bad"
"Ebony and Ivory"

Flaming Pie has its flaws, but the songs that are good are REALLY GOOD, imo, Beatles-niveau. Heaven On A Sunday, Someday, Little Willow and others are perfect.

Memory Almost Full is an album where I can listen to every track but a TOTAL highlight that could stand in his catalogue. But Dance Tonight is fun, My Ever Present past is just cool...
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optimus said:

WE ALL STAND TOGETHER! have u heard that song? so funny lol


yep, I hate it.
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Reply #19 posted 03/16/09 11:00am

CrozzaUK

graecophilos said:

I find Paul did in every decade since the Beatles' breakup a real good album. Well at least, imo.

Band On The Run (1973)
Tug Of War (1982)
Flaming Pie (1997)
Memory Almost Full (2007)

Band On the Run is perfect, Tug Of War, well, it's good, but IF (but he didn't) have written the Jacksons songs and So Bad yet, and have included those it would have been an AMAZING album:

"Tug of War" – 4:22
"Take It Away" – 4:14
"Somebody Who Cares" – 3:19
"What's That You're Doing?"
"Here Today" – 2:27
"Ballroom Dancing
"The Pound Is Sinking" – 2:54
"The Man
"Get It" – 2:29
"Say Say Say
"So Bad"
"Ebony and Ivory"

Flaming Pie has its flaws, but the songs that are good are REALLY GOOD, imo, Beatles-niveau. Heaven On A Sunday, Someday, Little Willow and others are perfect.

Memory Almost Full is an album where I can listen to every track but a TOTAL highlight that could stand in his catalogue. But Dance Tonight is fun, My Ever Present past is just cool...


They're all excellent albums - although the Pipes Of Peace cuts aren't good enough.Id argue he's released more than one album per decade. For me its:

Ram (1971) - a brilliant record, letdown by its lack of hit songs, but its as raw and edgy as McCartney got in the 70s. He poured all his hurt from the Beatles into this album. Too Many people is the standout on this album for me.

Flowers In The Dirt (1989) His collaborations with Elvis Costello shone, but there were other great tracks on there too. It was the album that propelled him back into the live arena, and alot of the songs from this album sounded great live. I love My Brave Face, That Day Is Done, Put It There, & Figure of 8.

Flaming Pie (1997) I loved Young Boy as a lead off, and Beautiful Night is a song i wish he would revisit live as i love its arrangement. I think that some of the record suffered from lack of having any band input, and its alos a blatant attempt to cash in on the current wave of beatles nostalgia created by the anthology projects. That said with songs as good as Calico Skies, little willow & The Song We Were Singin what does it matter.

Driving Rain (2001) - I loved this record when it came out. Admittedly ive not listened to it for a number of yearsm, but its a solild album with numerous highlights. Great ballads like From A Lover to a Friend, & Your Loving Flame, and his new touring band gave the record a raw edge. Lonesome Road is dripping with angst over Linda, and Rinse The Raindrops is as raw asive heard him since Helter Skelter. It was the last record of his i was really into.
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CrozzaUK said:

graecophilos said:

I find Paul did in every decade since the Beatles' breakup a real good album. Well at least, imo.

Band On The Run (1973)
Tug Of War (1982)
Flaming Pie (1997)
Memory Almost Full (2007)

Band On the Run is perfect, Tug Of War, well, it's good, but IF (but he didn't) have written the Jacksons songs and So Bad yet, and have included those it would have been an AMAZING album:

"Tug of War" – 4:22
"Take It Away" – 4:14
"Somebody Who Cares" – 3:19
"What's That You're Doing?"
"Here Today" – 2:27
"Ballroom Dancing
"The Pound Is Sinking" – 2:54
"The Man
"Get It" – 2:29
"Say Say Say
"So Bad"
"Ebony and Ivory"

Flaming Pie has its flaws, but the songs that are good are REALLY GOOD, imo, Beatles-niveau. Heaven On A Sunday, Someday, Little Willow and others are perfect.

Memory Almost Full is an album where I can listen to every track but a TOTAL highlight that could stand in his catalogue. But Dance Tonight is fun, My Ever Present past is just cool...


They're all excellent albums - although the Pipes Of Peace cuts aren't good enough.Id argue he's released more than one album per decade. For me its:

Ram (1971) - a brilliant record, letdown by its lack of hit songs, but its as raw and edgy as McCartney got in the 70s. He poured all his hurt from the Beatles into this album. Too Many people is the standout on this album for me.

Flowers In The Dirt (1989) His collaborations with Elvis Costello shone, but there were other great tracks on there too. It was the album that propelled him back into the live arena, and alot of the songs from this album sounded great live. I love My Brave Face, That Day Is Done, Put It There, & Figure of 8.

Flaming Pie (1997) I loved Young Boy as a lead off, and Beautiful Night is a song i wish he would revisit live as i love its arrangement. I think that some of the record suffered from lack of having any band input, and its alos a blatant attempt to cash in on the current wave of beatles nostalgia created by the anthology projects. That said with songs as good as Calico Skies, little willow & The Song We Were Singin what does it matter.

Driving Rain (2001) - I loved this record when it came out. Admittedly ive not listened to it for a number of yearsm, but its a solild album with numerous highlights. Great ballads like From A Lover to a Friend, & Your Loving Flame, and his new touring band gave the record a raw edge. Lonesome Road is dripping with angst over Linda, and Rinse The Raindrops is as raw asive heard him since Helter Skelter. It was the last record of his i was really into.
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I never got warm with Flowers, I prefer Off The Ground.

RAM is one of my faves, too many people dislike it, but what should I care? I like all the tracks, my favorite is Backseat... he wrote parts of it during the Get Back sessions.
Venus and Arse is good, I don't like the non-Macca penned songs...
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Reply #21 posted 03/16/09 3:23pm

Sdldawn

CrozzaUK said:

Sdldawn said:

that often go unheard..

check it

London Town
Letting Go
Lunch Box - Odd Sox
Winter Rose + Love Awake
Loup (first indian on the moon)
Beware My Love
Front Parlour
Frozen Jap
Secret Friend
Goodnight Tonight (7 min version)
Kicked Around No More
Here Today
Tragedy
Somebody Who Cares
Single Pigeon
Ram On
Through Our Love
Kreen-Akrore

yay for obscure McCartney music!!


I got really into McCartney's solo stuff quite a few years agon now, but haven't really paid him much attention lately. He's certainly underrated in many respects.....always capable of crafting a good tune - one of the best melody writers in popular music.

Not too keen on the selection you've chosen here. I love Here Today, Letting Go & London Town though.

Paul has been his own worst enemy at pushing his solo stuff. His tendancies to indulge himself in musical doodles, and not push himself lyrically have led to a few embarassing moments on his record that unfortunately lead to the good stuff being overlooked. He's never done a decent retrospective that did him justice either. Wingspan was a big disapoointment.

I wish he'd go into more writing collaborations such as those with Elvis Costello. That Day Is Done & The Lovers That never Were are 2 of my favourite songs he's done post Beatles. Such collaborations have a tendancy to curb his more wacky ideas.


Yeah, these songs aren't actually my favorites that I have posted.. they are just the one's ive been listening to lately..


he has so much stuff.. you divide the sets up in many categories .
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I went thru a huge McCartney phase recently and gained a new appreciation for alot of stuff of his I had never paid attention to.

One track in particular that i'm now in love with is 'Oh Woman Oh Why'

In fact, I think I'll play it now smile

I've also got a soft-spot for the "Pipes of Peace" album. Very underrated, IMHO. I've always adored "So Bad."
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NoVideo said:

I went thru a huge McCartney phase recently and gained a new appreciation for alot of stuff of his I had never paid attention to.

One track in particular that i'm now in love with is 'Oh Woman Oh Why'

In fact, I think I'll play it now smile

I've also got a soft-spot for the "Pipes of Peace" album. Very underrated, IMHO. I've always adored "So Bad."


"Woman oh why, why, why why why, what have I done?

Yeah, I like that. It's the b-side to Another Day.
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CrozzaUK

graecophilos said:

NoVideo said:

I went thru a huge McCartney phase recently and gained a new appreciation for alot of stuff of his I had never paid attention to.

One track in particular that i'm now in love with is 'Oh Woman Oh Why'

In fact, I think I'll play it now smile

I've also got a soft-spot for the "Pipes of Peace" album. Very underrated, IMHO. I've always adored "So Bad."


"Woman oh why, why, why why why, what have I done?

Yeah, I like that. It's the b-side to Another Day.


One of the things i love about his 70s output is that he nearly maintained the Beatles work ethic of an album per year, preceeded by a non album single & b-side. U put most of these singles on the related albums, and they automatically get a lot stronger....thats not to mention some of the unreleased stuff.

Ram - Another Day / Oh Woman Oh Why
Wildlife - Give Ireland Back To The Irish
Red Rose Speedway - Hi Hi Hi / C Moon / Live & Let Die / The Mess
Venus & Mars - Juniors Farm / Sally G
London Town - Mull Of Kintyre / Girls School
Back To The Egg - Goodnight Tonight / Daytime Nighttime Suffering
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CrozzaUK said:

graecophilos said:



"Woman oh why, why, why why why, what have I done?

Yeah, I like that. It's the b-side to Another Day.


One of the things i love about his 70s output is that he nearly maintained the Beatles work ethic of an album per year, preceeded by a non album single & b-side. U put most of these singles on the related albums, and they automatically get a lot stronger....thats not to mention some of the unreleased stuff.

Ram - Another Day / Oh Woman Oh Why
Wildlife - Give Ireland Back To The Irish
Red Rose Speedway - Hi Hi Hi / C Moon / Live & Let Die / The Mess
Venus & Mars - Juniors Farm / Sally G
London Town - Mull Of Kintyre / Girls School
Back To The Egg - Goodnight Tonight / Daytime Nighttime Suffering


Very true indeed. But what about "Mary Had a Little Lamb?" No love for that one? wink
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Pipes of Peace was a pretty good album, he was still vocally producing things right, im not a fan of either song with Michael on that record however. Things started to get a little ugly for Paul with "press to play" though it had two strong cuts "Stranglehold" and "Only Love Remains" but then came "spies like us" and you have to question Paul on that one

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lastdecember said:

Pipes of Peace was a pretty good album, he was still vocally producing things right, im not a fan of either song with Michael on that record however. Things started to get a little ugly for Paul with "press to play" though it had two strong cuts "Stranglehold" and "Only Love Remains" but then came "spies like us" and you have to question Paul on that one



I agree with Spies Like Us, it's awful.. but I do live a few other tracks from "press to play," especially "pretty little head" - and in particular the single version.
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lastdecember said:

Pipes of Peace was a pretty good album, he was still vocally producing things right, im not a fan of either song with Michael on that record however. Things started to get a little ugly for Paul with "press to play" though it had two strong cuts "Stranglehold" and "Only Love Remains" but then came "spies like us" and you have to question Paul on that one



I agree with Spies Like Us, it's awful.. but I do live a few other tracks from "press to play," especially "pretty little head" - and in particular the single version.


yeah i think Spies was just a goof, he did really quick, and the video shows itself to be nothing but a goof, i mean, can anything be taken seriously that has to do with Chevy Chase. I do like "Press" the title track, it has a good nature feel to it, maybe cheesy production, but then again, it was Mccartney in the 80's. I think people forget the great stuff that artists like Elton,Mccartney did in the 80's just because of their past glories
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lastdecember said:

NoVideo said:




I agree with Spies Like Us, it's awful.. but I do live a few other tracks from "press to play," especially "pretty little head" - and in particular the single version.


yeah i think Spies was just a goof, he did really quick, and the video shows itself to be nothing but a goof, i mean, can anything be taken seriously that has to do with Chevy Chase. I do like "Press" the title track, it has a good nature feel to it, maybe cheesy production, but then again, it was Mccartney in the 80's. I think people forget the great stuff that artists like Elton,Mccartney did in the 80's just because of their past glories
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Yeah, McCartney had some excellent work in the 80s - Tug of War and Flowers in the Dirt are among my 2 favorite McCartney solo albums of his career.

And i agree with the Elton comment. I don't think he had one album that was consistent all the way thru in the 80s (apart perhaps from Too Low For Zero), but he certainly had a string of classic songs that decade.
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