America doesn't have shows like ST or Bandstand these days, but if the formula was revived, could it work?

bboy87 said:

Hell naw. Soul Train aint even good these days to me...it aint got no DAMN SOUL!

I want you to make a gif out of Teena Marie doing the robot on Behind The Groove too!

NOW!

paisleypark4 said:

I'm still learning how to make GIFs

bboy87 said:

Doesn't show like Soul Train, American Bandstand, Tops Of The Pops, The Hitman & Her, Club MTV, & The Party Machine count as earlier "reality shows"?!?

BTW, I rather bring back The Party Machine & Club MTV. At least THOSE shows were 5 days/nights a week.

I think these shows could be successful especially towards the younger generation. I'll seriously doubt I'll be watching it though because I'm not feeling the music acts of today like I was in the 80's and 90's.

Then again, it would be weird watching Soul Train and American Bandstand without seeing Don Cornelius and America's Oldest Teenager, Dick Clark.

This generation doesn't know how to dance, especially girls. Booty poppin doesn't count.

thatruth said:

Going out to the clubs lately has been a sad, sad experience. 200 people wiggling their asses, and me and my buddy will be the only ones doing something that could actually be called dancing.


I think my most despised "move" right now for girls is the half-bored slo-mo hip-shaking, coupled with clutching for dear life onto her purse under her arm. Sometimes with a frat boy-looking fist pump thrown in.

thatruth said:

I was going to reply with the same thing. The kids don't dance anymore. The girls just stand in place and maybe every few seconds or so bounce their butts once or twice, then go back to sipping on their drink while throwing shade at the other girls near by. The guys all just stand along the walls trying to look menacing, while secretly checking each other out. The emphasis on DANCE is gone, and the social model has gone berserk.

PDogz said:

That's some of us, there are people in my generation that actually go to the clubs to DANCE

bboy87 said:

Glad to hear it! Carry On!

You could never have a show like that these days because dance music has to exist in order to have a dance show. These sissified dorky ass wannabe thugs these days prefer their music as slow as a fucking opera.

That's because there's not any music fast enough to dance to unless the DJ plays something very old.

vainandy said:

PDogz said:

This may be funny to hear, but me and my friends are breakdancers, so when we're at school or at the club, it sometimes turns from an outing to a scene from Beat Street

They should have more dance shows now like bboy (Jay) pointed out, there's still dancers that don't always be on Dancing with the Stars. Maybe we will have a round of dance shows in the near future...HOPEFULLY!

PDogz said:

ahahaha laaaame.

Timmy84 said:

The thing is that there are no real major outlets to promote anymore. Unless you do something out of the ordinary like u2 doing a week on Letterman or sometimes when artists do the Oprah show it does help push a record. But as far as there being a "music outlet" there is none in america. I look at the UK and when a Pop group like Girls Aloud put out a record they go on like 15 different variety shows based in the UK, even the american acts go over there and do it, Lady Gaga is doing it now, Amerie did shit loads of it, PCD the same, you name it and they do them. America needs to put some focus back on daily/weekly shows ON MUSIC and get with it, this is another reason for the downfall of sales etc..

NO, even TOTP which was HUGE in the UK since the 1960s had to stop airing. People don't depend on such shows anymore, they can watch videos, performances whenever the want.

bboy87 said:

My first question would be, specific to Soul Train, what "Bands" would you have on the show.

Mint Condition every week?


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theAudience said:

They can have some up and coming or lesser known acts acts on the show. Acts like
Steph Jones
Kid Sister
Tony Williams
Darien Brockington
J"Davey
Dam Funk
Jonte'
Rahbi
Janelle Monae

and blend in with bigger acts like
Solange
Raphael Saadiq
and so on and so forth

bboy87 said:

I think a hybrid of a talk show/dance show would work.

MuthaFunka said:

If it's like 106th and Park, no go

bboy87 said:

Naw, I'm talkin' with a more adult feel to it. Then again, most adults don't really do the "dance" thang that much.

No, the music sucks so the dancing going to suck as well. Some of these "dances" of the last few years are laughable. Chicken Noodle Soup? Harlem Shuffle? God knows what other kind of shake is labeled dancing. Nah, we don't need another American Bandstand or Soul Train in 2009.

purplecam said:

Yeah, you AND the rest of New York needs to apologize for that shit right there

There are acts out there that do make great dance music. It could be a great opportunity for artists who don't get much play to finally get in the spotlight

Award show performances are boring/depressing these days, so just imagine how awful a show like Soul Train would look now.

bboy87 said:

I take no responsibility for that cause I was living in California at that time When I came back to NY and saw kids doing the Chicken Noodle on the subway for money, I just shook my head thinking to myself "when will these kids go to the next subway car already?"

I do agree with you that it would be great to have a place where dance artists and groups can be exposed. Lady Gaga is proof that dance music can still sell. I hope there will be more acts coming out to the mainstream as a result. Maybe once that happens, then the 2nd coming of AB or ST can happen.

purplecam said:

With Electro coming back and what I like to call the "R&B counterculture" coming in, I think we may see a big change in 2010

I'm assuming that those are some underground dance acts since you are talking about a dance show. If so, that would be a great idea but don't forget, it's not just radio that is being controlled by monopolies such as Clear Channel, television is being controlled more and more by companies like Viacom. Those companies aren't going to give anything the light of day that might possibly overthrow shit hop. They would be cool with shows like "Dancing With The Stars" because that's dorky ass dancing for couples or ballroom type dancing (yawn). The general public will simply just sit at "watch" dance shows like that but shows like "Soul Train" that have individuals dancing on their own which are the type of dances that the general public would immitate themselves, would require new dance music. If that new dance music costs more than shit hop and caught on, then the labels would have to shell out more money for their new acts. These corporations are all watching each others' backs.

bboy87 said:

That would be nice. R&B needs a GIGANTIC kick in the balls cause this poor excuse for R&B today sucks crazy ass. Change is needed NOW.