http://www.digitalspy.com...-baby.html


Funny that we havent heard a damn thing from him since then!!!!

Is he sorry for this, too?



OK I'll admit it, I loved this movie and especially this scene at the time, but I was little!

I don't appreciate hearing "I was young, manipulated and I was a puppet" on the end of his apology, because he was a grown ass man aged 23 ultimately responsible for "the hairdos, the baggy pants, the scandals, the lies, the gangs, and... the music".

On the flipside, why apologize when it is still his most popular output?

He needs to apologize for Mind Blowin' (accompanied by an image which was JUST AS CONTRIVED AND HE WAS 27)!

Cinnie said:

.....because Vanilla Ice was nothing but a liar back then.

1. He lied about being from Miami, FL. He was really from Dallas, TX!

2. He lied about going to the same high school as Luke Campbell of 2 Live Crew. Luke confirmed that was a lied.

3. He totally forgot to pay (never mind forgot to get permission from) David Bowie/Queen & Wild Cherry for sampling their music to credit Ice Ice Baby (Under Pressure) & Play That Funky Music (Play That Funky Music [White Boy]), and then lied about it by saying it's a one to two notes difference in the riffs.

4. He totally disregard the influence of the Omega Psi Phi (Q Dogs), the historical black fraternity that invented the phrase "Ice Ice Baby".

5. Long before copying his fashion from MC Hammer, he was copying his earlier street fashion from Ice-T!!!

OK confession time I actually love "Ice Ice Baby" always have. I have about 6 different mixes of it and I think that, 4 what it is... It's an OK tune. So there, I said it, it's out. lol.

Can I get a witness?... Anybody?.... Anybody at all?.... No probably not.

TonyVanDam said:

OK that all deserves an apology. I was saying.. the fakery didn't stop in 1991.

TonyVanDam said:

The QUEEN thing alone has always bothered me, he stole it, his label stole it and they knew it and thought just because QUEEN was a band from the UK and really wasnt big in the USA anymore no one would know, they failed to realize that Queen had fans here. Everytime i see the clip of him saying " its that itty bitty change" i want to see Brian May beat him with his guitar while Roger Tyalor and John Deacon (whos bass line it is) kick him. But i must say there was alot of STEALING and shit going on in this later 80's early 90's time frame, alot of Fraud shall we say.

I am surprised Wild Cherry didn't get a portion of "Play That Funky Music"??

Cinnie said:

I doubt Wild Cherry owns anything with that song, i have seen it on every compilation from that time period, which is a clear hint that the artist has nothing to say about it, usually.

lastdecember said:

Then again you see Wild Cherry's song on every compilation

Cinnie said:

Which means they dont own it most likely, or have any publishing invested in it. This is why you dont see Beatles songs on 60's compilations.

He's an arsehole.

He NEED to apologize for even trying a rap career.

TonyVanDam said:

Actually, that's an Alpha Phi Alpha thing.

What about his black dancers, arent' they worse? lol

It's funny he can't go on as an artist with out that old image haunting him. Why can't he just except it, and give what fans he has left what they want? This rock thing isn't cutting it

funkycat00 said:

He could do a simple makeover that doesn't look like 20 years ago, and perform those old songs, but he would have to dance like crazy (which, when I saw him on the tv show Hit Me Baby One More Time, he was doing anyway)

Timmy84 said:

He is lucky that the name "Vanilla Ice" even rings a bell in 2009, and he keeps wasting his luck on moaning about his old image.

V-Ice needs to be like "You know what? Big announcement: I'm gonna perform To The Extreme from start to finish, plus 'Rollin In My 5.0' on my next tour.. I don't have my old hair but I died a blond streak in the front, and I don't wear shiny suits but I have been working out and rehearsing some of my old dance moves (for the ladies)."

Because no one cares about some rap-rawk that sounds like decade-old Limp Bizkit throwaways, or "reworked" versions of his songs originally based on big sample hooks.

All the Vanilla Ice fans need to apologize for having poor taste in music, as well.

AlexdeParis said:

Them too!

lastdecember said:

Along the band leader of Wild Cherry didn't own his own master tapes OR publishings, he did sue VI anything for the lack of any payments as a song writer. All matters were settle out of court.

Cinnie said:

VI is more hurt of the fact that a lot of black folks (that were his fans BEFORE the white audience came along to give him crossover pop success) ended up hating him for trying too hard to be "the white MC Hammer".

Here's the actual clip.

I think this has gotta be a pisstake now that I've seen it for myself.

anc282 said:

I appreciate the quote now in THAT context

Cinnie said:

Very funny. It's all part of Virgin Mobile's ad campaign.

Swa

Yo man, I find all the Vanilla Ice hate too funny. I remember VERY CLEARLY: EVERYONE, and definitely including the brothers, was feeling Ice Ice Baby when it first came out. It got played to death on AM Stereo KDAY in Los Angeles - America's original hip-hop radio station with almost all black and latino listenership at the time. I mean, there is a very valid reason that album sold 12 million copies or whatever it did, and it was partly crossover appeal yes but also because so many hip-hop people thought that shit was dope. I was there...let me tell you that motherfucker was FILLING hip-hop dancefloors all over LA county - and there were still relatively few white people going to hear hip-hop at clubs in the fall of 1990. It was THE peak record. Maybe some of the guys honestly didn't really dig it so much, and that's a big MAYBE, but the girls sure did, they waited ALL NIGHT for that shit to drop, and they wanted to grind and get their asses and titties felt up on the dancefloor when that shit got played, so the fellas just fell RIGHT IN LINE. Bottom line: people can get their revisionist history on now if they like, but I VIVIDLY recall not being able to BELIEVE what I was seeing at the time 'cause I always HATED that fucking record, I just couldn't believe how many people were feeling it. That's how it was in LA. Many of my friends whose taste I otherwise respected were all into it at the time, though they will NEVER EVER admit it now. Anyway. The Vanilla Ice hate was just as much a thing of people hating it because it got TOO popular AND they wished THEY had thought to use the "Under Pressure" bass hook (Doh!) as it was hating it because it was wack, or hating it because it was appropriative/exploitative, or hating it because they discovered what a dork the guy really was. It's like, folks loved that shit when it first came out and was still a bit of an underground phenonmenon - they wanted to be associated with it as far as liking it when it still had a bit of cachet to it, like look a white boy doing hip-hop and the bassline is funky or whatever, like the first month or whatever, then when the shit blew the fuck up, THEN cats really started to hate on it. Whatever. A lot - not all by any means, but a lot - of the flak Vanilla Ice takes is 100% jealousy. If he made the SAME record and was black, many cats would have just found some OTHER reason to hate on his ass that wasn't based upon race. Having said all of this I still fucking HATE and DESPISE that record, but to be fair, THE PEOPLE created Vanilla Ice and have nobody to blame for the ubiquitousness of that record but themselves. They loved that shit and they bought the 12 millions copies. Vanilla Ice has nothing to apologize for as far as I am concerned. And what star DOES NOT LIE about their life to the public? Like what stars do you know that consistently TELL THE TRUTH about anything?

TonyVanDam said:

lol and rick ross lies about being a drug king pin rappers lie all the time.


ice ice baby is still on hit. the lyrics=crazy lol

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