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Thread started 03/09/09 1:00pm

kenlacam

Rihanna Started it?

http://gawker.com/5166432...isdemeanor
Judge for yourselves.....
I say he still should not have hit her, but she may have provoked him.
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Reply #1 posted 03/09/09 1:04pm

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kenlacam said:

http://gawker.com/5166432/report-rihanna-hit-first-so-chris-brown-wants-a-misdemeanor
Judge for yourselves.....
I say he still should not have hit her, but she may have provoked him.



Yeah but um..he has NO marks or scratches....its really his word against hers in that matter..or his punches to the face and ribcage against her smitty smacks lol

Wtf?
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Reply #2 posted 03/09/09 1:14pm

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paisleypark4 said:

kenlacam said:

http://gawker.com/5166432/report-rihanna-hit-first-so-chris-brown-wants-a-misdemeanor
Judge for yourselves.....
I say he still should not have hit her, but she may have provoked him.



Yeah but um..he has NO marks or scratches....its really his word against hers in that matter..or his punches to the face and ribcage against her smitty smacks lol

Wtf?


Because he has no marks, she didn't hit him?
That's fallacious thinking.
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Reply #3 posted 03/09/09 1:21pm

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SUPRMAN said:

paisleypark4 said:




Yeah but um..he has NO marks or scratches....its really his word against hers in that matter..or his punches to the face and ribcage against her smitty smacks lol

Wtf?


Because he has no marks, she didn't hit him?
That's fallacious thinking.


Even if she did him him first, there is no justification for what he did to her! NONE!

If he was a real man about his shit, he'd have pulled over, told her to get the fuck out of his car and went on to see his other woman and his dumb ass wouldn't be in this mess!
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Reply #4 posted 03/09/09 1:30pm

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^ I agree with you. He is young and stupid, though. If she dared him to hit her, with him being young and stupid, he might have said "eff it" and hit her. I don't condone this, but she possibly could have egged him on....There's 2 sides to every story.
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Reply #5 posted 03/09/09 1:31pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SUPRMAN said:



Because he has no marks, she didn't hit him?
That's fallacious thinking.


Even if she did him him first, there is no justification for what he did to her! NONE!

If he was a real man about his shit, he'd have pulled over, told her to get the fuck out of his car and went on to see his other woman and his dumb ass wouldn't be in this mess!


I'm not justifying his behavior.
If he told her to get out, do you really think she would have complied?
I would have taken her home put her out and that would be over.
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Reply #6 posted 03/09/09 1:31pm

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you know what...if you are dumb enough to hit on someone who can easily beat your ass and then you get your ass beat for doing that, you deserve it. i don't care if you're a woman or a man, don't raise your hands to someone unless you're prepared to accept a beat down should you get one delivered to you.
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Reply #7 posted 03/09/09 1:32pm

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K i read somewhere that she came back to him if he would sign a contract that if he hit her again she would get some cash? Now if this is correct the woman just signed her death certificate. Cause next time he smacks her around hes going to stage a murder and blame it on someone else, so he doesn't have to pay.

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Reply #8 posted 03/09/09 1:33pm

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N another thing, I don't care who started it, you don't hit someone specially someone who you "love".
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Reply #9 posted 03/09/09 1:34pm

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sassybritches said:

you know what...if you are dumb enough to hit on someone who can easily beat your ass and then you get your ass beat for doing that, you deserve it. i don't care if you're a woman or a man, don't raise your hands to someone unless you're prepared to accept a beat down should you get one delivered to you.


Apparently there is a blanket exception for women because women cannot physically hurt a man with their bare hands. . . .
It's a relief to know those YOUTUBE video's of women jumping on men are all faked and staged.
There were some women I was almost scared of . . . .
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Reply #10 posted 03/09/09 1:49pm

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SUPRMAN said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



Even if she did him him first, there is no justification for what he did to her! NONE!

If he was a real man about his shit, he'd have pulled over, told her to get the fuck out of his car and went on to see his other woman and his dumb ass wouldn't be in this mess!


I'm not justifying his behavior.
If he told her to get out, do you really think she would have complied?
I would have taken her home put her out and that would be over.


If he hit her because she allegedly hit him, then it would stand to reason that he was angry enough to have pulled that car over and told her to get out and she would have knew he meant business. For him to beat her like he did just shows that he's a sorry little coward, that sooner or later is going to get his ass tagged for that shit by a real man.
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Reply #11 posted 03/09/09 1:50pm

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lazycrockett said:

N another thing, I don't care who started it, you don't hit someone specially someone who you "love".


EXACTLY!!!!! clapping
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Reply #12 posted 03/09/09 2:01pm

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She might have hit him, and I believe in one's right to defend one's self, but that doesn't include beating the shit out of them after you've fended off their attack!

One thing, though, he's a good multi-tasker. He gave a great beating while driving the car!
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Reply #13 posted 03/09/09 2:59pm

Cinnie

I had my doubts that it was completely unprovoked but

her injuries show he went overboard.


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Reply #14 posted 03/09/09 7:55pm

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Who cares who started it...he was wrong! That little whiny sack of monkey dung gets no support from me....ever. No excuse for what he did. My Chris Brown cds have been destroyed.
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Reply #15 posted 03/09/09 8:03pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SUPRMAN said:



I'm not justifying his behavior.
If he told her to get out, do you really think she would have complied?
I would have taken her home put her out and that would be over.


If he hit her because she allegedly hit him, then it would stand to reason that he was angry enough to have pulled that car over and told her to get out and she would have knew he meant business. For him to beat her like he did just shows that he's a sorry little coward, that sooner or later is going to get his ass tagged for that shit by a real man.


So it's okay now for a man to beat on Chris?

That's hypocritical and ugly.
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Reply #16 posted 03/09/09 8:35pm

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chris brown sucks anyway...
let him fry
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Reply #17 posted 03/09/09 9:06pm

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Why are people still caring?
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Reply #18 posted 03/09/09 9:18pm

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I don't give a shit if she smacked him. BE A MAN AND DON'T HIT BACK!
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Reply #19 posted 03/09/09 9:23pm

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I posted this on the sticky thread.....I didn't find this to be that surprising. Did anyone think he just started punching her for asking him a question? I didn't. I figured she must have been in his face or hitting him. And when it said he bit her fingers, that was a dead giveaway that she must have been putting up a good fight. Plus, it didn't sound like either one wanted to leave that car...she was swinging away bloody-lipped and all.

There is another report out detailing their past fights. It said that there was another time overseas when she slapped him and he pinned her against a wall to restrain her.....then they probably started screwing.

The other time they got into a big argument over her accusing him of breaking a car window or something. No one got hurt, just a lot of yelling and aggression.....then they probably started screwing.

It doesn't change a whole lot, but it does provide a better context. She may feel a bit guilty for her part in all of this. And it sounds like she did not lie or distort anything. The latest info, including the accounts of their past fights, comes from what she told police. Yet, they still charged him so....Now it doesn't seem that surprising that she'd back up her statement by testifying. I doubt there will be a trial, but still...
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Reply #20 posted 03/09/09 9:26pm

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bettybop said:

I posted this on the sticky thread.....I didn't find this to be that surprising. Did anyone think he just started punching her for asking him a question? I didn't. I figured she must have been in his face or hitting him. And when it said he bit her fingers, that was a dead giveaway that she must have been putting up a good fight. Plus, it didn't sound like either one wanted to leave that car...she was swinging away bloody-lipped and all.


Lol, I love how in that small paragraph, you manage to completely convince yourself that yes she DID start it. Unbelievable.

There is another report out detailing their past fights. It said that there was another time overseas when she slapped him and he pinned her against a wall to restrain her.....then they probably started screwing.


And now we start the insulting. People are so predictable these days.

The other time they got into a big argument over her accusing him of breaking a car window or something. No one got hurt, just a lot of yelling and aggression.....then they probably started screwing.


Yep, all of this is true in your mind now because you convinced yourself. Care to quote a source for any of this?

It doesn't change a whole lot, but it does provide a better context. She may feel a bit guilty for her part in all of this. And it sounds like she did not lie or distort anything. The latest info, including the accounts of their past fights, comes from what she told police. Yet, they still charged him so....Now it doesn't seem that surprising that she'd back up her statement by testifying. I doubt there will be a trial, but still...


Well, doesn't that strike you as odd? That despite these apparent past fights, they still ONLY charged him? As in, maybe she DIDN'T start anything? Hmmmm?
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Reply #21 posted 03/09/09 9:36pm

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Plain and simple there is no justification for abuse. People need to stop trying to make excuses for either of them.
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Reply #22 posted 03/09/09 9:44pm

Cinnie

All I know is when the radio station plays a drop before one of his songs that goes like:

"Hey this is your man Chris Brown comin' at cha smile "

it just sounds bad now.
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Reply #23 posted 03/09/09 9:55pm

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SUPRMAN said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:



If he hit her because she allegedly hit him, then it would stand to reason that he was angry enough to have pulled that car over and told her to get out and she would have knew he meant business. For him to beat her like he did just shows that he's a sorry little coward, that sooner or later is going to get his ass tagged for that shit by a real man.


So it's okay now for a man to beat on Chris?

That's hypocritical and ugly.


Nope! He SHOULD be able to defend himself, just like he did "allegedly" against Rhianna! But...umm...if he is not as successful with that...which I do not think he will be...well...that'll just be his comeuppance!
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Reply #24 posted 03/09/09 10:00pm

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purplesweat said:

bettybop said:

I posted this on the sticky thread.....I didn't find this to be that surprising. Did anyone think he just started punching her for asking him a question? I didn't. I figured she must have been in his face or hitting him. And when it said he bit her fingers, that was a dead giveaway that she must have been putting up a good fight. Plus, it didn't sound like either one wanted to leave that car...she was swinging away bloody-lipped and all.


Lol, I love how in that small paragraph, you manage to completely convince yourself that yes she DID start it. Unbelievable.



Yep, all of this is true in your mind now because you convinced yourself. Care to quote a source for any of this?

It doesn't change a whole lot, but it does provide a better context. She may feel a bit guilty for her part in all of this. And it sounds like she did not lie or distort anything. The latest info, including the accounts of their past fights, comes from what she told police. Yet, they still charged him so....Now it doesn't seem that surprising that she'd back up her statement by testifying. I doubt there will be a trial, but still...


Well, doesn't that strike you as odd? That despite these apparent past fights, they still ONLY charged him? As in, maybe she DIDN'T start anything? Hmmmm?

I am going from the account that she reportedly told police. It was that she started hitting him after she read the text messages. This is what SHE apparently told the police. And I always thought she may have hit him first, but that never stopped me from thinking he was wrong. What he did was way beyond "self defense". He could have easily gotten out of the car and walked away from her, but he chose to punch her. I think he deserves to be punished for what he did. And they both need counseling. So no, I do not think it is odd that they charged him and not her--dude beat her savagely, going way beyond anybody's self defense.

Here is the link that talked about the other fights:

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/03/09/2009-03-09_chris_brown_and_rihanna_their_past_fight.html

Chris Brown and Rihanna: Their past fights revealed

LOS ANGELES - Rihanna told cops about two fights with Chris Brown that preceded her alleged one in a rented Lamborghini last month, The News has learned.

Contrary to some reports, neither episode involved a pounding of the pop princess or injuries, a source close to the situation said.

"The first incident was in Europe about three months ago," the source said, citing Rihanna's official statements to cops. "It was a verbal dispute. She slapped him, he responded. He shoved her. There were no witnesses and no injuries."

The second incident, said the source, was in Barbados.

"It was a fight over a Range Rover," the source said. "She says he broke the window. Nobody was injured and it was not reported."

Reports that Brown had "beaten" the stunning songbird in the past are "absolutely inaccurate," the source said.

Brown, 19, was charged with felony assault Thursday and is due for arraignment April 6.

The tempestuous couple, meanwhile, has reunited romantically, multiple sources said.

"He's with her, they're together. They're not just seeing each other (platonically)," a source said Monday.

An on-again romance could spell trouble for prosecutors, who would have to base their case on other evidence including photos, prior statements and witness accounts.

One wildcard could be the crucial 911 call that led cops to Rihanna, 21.

The caller told cops he could not identify either party, a source with knowledge of the police report said, and that he heard a female screaming but not screaming for help.

"He stated that the odd thing about the incident was how she was screaming out of control and how he appeared to be extremely calm," the source said. "And when he exited (the vehicle), it was with a calm demeanor."


Now these accounts sounds like they come from someone close to Brown, not Rihanna. But who knows...eventually it will all come out.
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Reply #25 posted 03/09/09 10:00pm

Cinnie

The great thing about court is both people get to tell their sides, then a group of people get to be the judge.
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Reply #26 posted 03/09/09 10:39pm

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bettybop said:[quote]

purplesweat said:


I am going from the account that she reportedly told police. It was that she started hitting him after she read the text messages. This is what SHE apparently told the police. And I always thought she may have hit him first, but that never stopped me from thinking he was wrong. What he did was way beyond "self defense". He could have easily gotten out of the car and walked away from her, but he chose to punch her. I think he deserves to be punished for what he did. And they both need counseling. So no, I do not think it is odd that they charged him and not her--dude beat her savagely, going way beyond anybody's self defense.

Here is the link that talked about the other fights:

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/03/09/2009-03-09_chris_brown_and_rihanna_their_past_fight.html

Chris Brown and Rihanna: Their past fights revealed

LOS ANGELES - Rihanna told cops about two fights with Chris Brown that preceded her alleged one in a rented Lamborghini last month, The News has learned.

Contrary to some reports, neither episode involved a pounding of the pop princess or injuries, a source close to the situation said.

"The first incident was in Europe about three months ago," the source said, citing Rihanna's official statements to cops. "It was a verbal dispute. She slapped him, he responded. He shoved her. There were no witnesses and no injuries."

The second incident, said the source, was in Barbados.

"It was a fight over a Range Rover," the source said. "She says he broke the window. Nobody was injured and it was not reported."

Reports that Brown had "beaten" the stunning songbird in the past are "absolutely inaccurate," the source said.

Brown, 19, was charged with felony assault Thursday and is due for arraignment April 6.

The tempestuous couple, meanwhile, has reunited romantically, multiple sources said.

"He's with her, they're together. They're not just seeing each other (platonically)," a source said Monday.

An on-again romance could spell trouble for prosecutors, who would have to base their case on other evidence including photos, prior statements and witness accounts.

One wildcard could be the crucial 911 call that led cops to Rihanna, 21.

The caller told cops he could not identify either party, a source with knowledge of the police report said, and that he heard a female screaming but not screaming for help.

"He stated that the odd thing about the incident was how she was screaming out of control and how he appeared to be extremely calm," the source said. "And when he exited (the vehicle), it was with a calm demeanor."


Now these accounts sounds like they come from someone close to Brown, not Rihanna. But who knows...eventually it will all come out.


That article really doesn't say anything. It's all "sources" saying "They've fought before". Also the end of the article attempts to make Rihanna look bad.
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Reply #27 posted 03/09/09 11:20pm

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bettybop said:

There is another report out detailing their past fights. It said that there was another time overseas when she slapped him and he pinned her against a wall to restrain her.....then they probably started screwing.


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Yeah, I heard about that report too.
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Reply #28 posted 03/10/09 8:01am

kenlacam

It takes 2 to tango!!!!! CB was wrong for beating her up, but, as I've said, there are 2 sides to every story. She aint all miss clean and pretty.
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Reply #29 posted 03/10/09 8:12am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

SUPRMAN said:



Because he has no marks, she didn't hit him?
That's fallacious thinking.


Even if she did him him first, there is no justification for what he did to her! NONE!

If he was a real man about his shit, he'd have pulled over, told her to get the fuck out of his car and went on to see his other woman and his dumb ass wouldn't be in this mess!



Damn, that's harsh.

But that's a fair assessment.

Not pretty. Not textbook. Not fairytale. But in a less than perfect world (which these young showbiz folks inhabit) that I agree with it. Call me crazy, but....I would rather the kid had been brutally rude and dismissive with her heart rather than brutally forceful with her face:-|

I'mstill tripping because i just don't remember young folks beating the hell out of eachother like this at 19 years old...the hellll hmm
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