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Reply #1290 posted 03/13/09 5:18pm

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Swa said:

50 shows - will he won't he?

There seems to be a lot of neysayers out there who want to think he can't do it.
That MJ is past his prime.
They said he didn't have the fan base to sell out 10 shows.
And now he has sold out 50.
For me I have my eyes open on this one.
I am "cautiously optimistic" that MJ will deliver the goods.
I have seen his shows since the Bad tour, and each time was blown away.
Does he still have it?
Will he still have it for show 20, show 40?
There is a lot of speculation, and to be honest no one knows until opening night.

I just hope, and it may be foolish, people give him a fair chance. As we have seen time and time again with many artists, people love to build them up just to cut them back to size.

It may be a no win situation in all honesty. If he does a brilliant job there will still be those who say it isn't enough.

At the end of the day the only person to prove them wrong is Michael. It's make or break time in his career. I trust he can use this to rise to the occasion and deliver a wonderful show.

Swa
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For alot of fans, they don't care if he lip synchs. They just want to see him on stage and put on a great show

I mentioned this to SoulAlive that although I'm not a fan of Madge, I appreciate the work she puts into her shows. Yeah, she may not always sing live but she can put one hell of a show together
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Reply #1291 posted 03/13/09 6:08pm

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JackieBlue said:



I don't really think Corey looks like MJ anymore. Hell MJ doesn't look like MJ anymore but they could both use some highlights. The Black hair is so harsh.


Corey never looked like MJ, he is totally obsessed and scary to me. Mike better watch his back while this crazy, bitter bastard is still about. corey is a crazy fool.

I remember his 9/11 story, he scares me.

What did he say about 911?
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Reply #1292 posted 03/13/09 6:09pm

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JackieBlue said:



I don't really think Corey looks like MJ anymore. Hell MJ doesn't look like MJ anymore but they could both use some highlights. The Black hair is so harsh.


Corey never looked like MJ, he is totally obsessed and scary to me. Mike better watch his back while this crazy, bitter bastard is still about. corey is a crazy fool.

I remember his 9/11 story, he scares me.

What did he say about 911?
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Reply #1293 posted 03/13/09 6:27pm

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angel345 said:

Marrk said:



Corey never looked like MJ, he is totally obsessed and scary to me. Mike better watch his back while this crazy, bitter bastard is still about. corey is a crazy fool.

I remember his 9/11 story, he scares me.

What did he say about 911?


That MJ didn't give him a ride out of NY in his limo. falloff
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Reply #1294 posted 03/13/09 7:56pm

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Michael and Janet rehearsing for Scream

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Reply #1295 posted 03/13/09 8:52pm

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Blast from the MJ press conference past:




Michael Jackson
Heal the World Press Conference
Romania, 1992
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Reply #1296 posted 03/13/09 9:50pm

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Reply #1297 posted 03/14/09 2:46am

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Swa said:

syble said:

have any of you actually managed to get tix?


Yes I got tickets for two shows - one through presale (average wait time was 1 hour) and through the general release (wait time was 2 hours, but did include a drop out when the site crashed about half hour into it).

Swa



I dont get why ticketmaster still says search for tix on each listing instead of currently not avavilable or even why they have it listed still if its sold out, it drives me nuts searching through all the dates trying to find at least one that lets you search for a ticket. I havent even been able to search for tix they just all say not avavilable when you click through from the main date list.
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Reply #1298 posted 03/14/09 3:26am

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syble said:

Swa said:



Yes I got tickets for two shows - one through presale (average wait time was 1 hour) and through the general release (wait time was 2 hours, but did include a drop out when the site crashed about half hour into it).

Swa



I dont get why ticketmaster still says search for tix on each listing instead of currently not avavilable or even why they have it listed still if its sold out, it drives me nuts searching through all the dates trying to find at least one that lets you search for a ticket. I havent even been able to search for tix they just all say not avavilable when you click through from the main date list.

Surely ticketmaster is in on the whole viagogo thing. They're now advertising them in their emails.
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Reply #1299 posted 03/14/09 4:19am

Swa

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Arnotts said:

syble said:




I dont get why ticketmaster still says search for tix on each listing instead of currently not avavilable or even why they have it listed still if its sold out, it drives me nuts searching through all the dates trying to find at least one that lets you search for a ticket. I havent even been able to search for tix they just all say not avavilable when you click through from the main date list.

Surely ticketmaster is in on the whole viagogo thing. They're now advertising them in their emails.


From what I understand - AEG LIVE gave a selection of tickets for each show to Viagogo. As for Ticketmaster - not sure why they are still doing it, but michaeljacksonlive is showing sold out on all shows.

http://michaeljacksonlive.com/
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Reply #1300 posted 03/14/09 5:11am

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So I was thinking - with the O2 shows going into rehearsals soon what would you like to hear? I've created a setlist I think would be a crowd pleaser, even though I would love to hear songs I love like Money, Tabloid Junkie etc if its going to be a greatest hits set this is what I thought would be generally pleasing.

Here is my Setlist (restricted to 20 songs)

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'
2. Can You Feel It
3. Human Nature
4. Smooth Criminal
5. Remember the Time
6. J5 Medley - I want you back / ABC / I'll be there - stopped and replaced with Who's Loving You
7. Don't Stop Til You Get Enough
8. Butterflies
9. The Way you Make Me Feel
10. Stranger in Moscow
11. Thriller
12. Billie Jean
13. You Rock My World
14. Who is it
15. Beat It
16. Black or White
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17. Scream
18. Bad
19. Whatever Happens
20. Man in the Mirror


What would yours be?

Swa
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Reply #1301 posted 03/14/09 5:52am

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My quick setlist idea:

1. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
2. You Rock My World
3. Human Nature
4. Bad
5. Break Of Dawn
6. The Way You Make Me Feel
7. In The Closet
8. Smooth Criminal
9. Rock With You
10. Thriller
11. Give In To Me
12. Beat It
13. Dangerous
14. Blood On The Dance Floor
15. Off The Wall
16. Who Is It
17. Will You Be There
18. Billie Jean
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Reply #1302 posted 03/14/09 6:25am

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Vote for songs you wanna hear MJ sing, its official.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...318110.ece
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Reply #1303 posted 03/14/09 6:38am

Arnotts

NaughtyKitty said:

Blast from the MJ press conference past:




Michael Jackson
Heal the World Press Conference
Romania, 1992

I'm still trying to figure out what it is that makes him look so much different now than from this. You can still see in this clip that under the extremely long hair and truckload of makeup he has a beautiful face. It's not the skin colour or nose because his skin looks flawless and his nose is still miniture but it doesnt look unnatural. Now both his skin and nose looks weird but they dont seem to have changed. I really cant figure it out. Maybe it really is just the hairstyle and the way he gets his make up done, both are now atrocious rather than just a bit excessive like it used to be.
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Reply #1304 posted 03/14/09 7:46am

LondonStyle

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Diddy said:

Vote for songs you wanna hear MJ sing, its official.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...318110.ece



Thanks voted.....
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #1305 posted 03/14/09 9:15am

Annika

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Diddy said:

Vote for songs you wanna hear MJ sing, its official.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...318110.ece


Who says this is official? I somehow doubt Michael's going to base his setlist on poll by the Sun of all things.
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Reply #1306 posted 03/14/09 9:35am

Serena

syble said:

Swa said:



Yes I got tickets for two shows - one through presale (average wait time was 1 hour) and through the general release (wait time was 2 hours, but did include a drop out when the site crashed about half hour into it).

Swa



I dont get why ticketmaster still says search for tix on each listing instead of currently not avavilable or even why they have it listed still if its sold out, it drives me nuts searching through all the dates trying to find at least one that lets you search for a ticket. I havent even been able to search for tix they just all say not avavilable when you click through from the main date list.


They'll probably be releasing more tickets in the future. Some are always held back and maybe this way they don't have to do program changes by removing the shows and then putting them back.
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Reply #1307 posted 03/14/09 10:27am

LondonStyle

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Annika said:

Diddy said:

Vote for songs you wanna hear MJ sing, its official.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...318110.ece


Who says this is official? I somehow doubt Michael's going to base his setlist on poll by the Sun of all things.


The sun is not silly they slag off mike until they found out 1 million people want to see him that means big money they will be giving away front row tickets and CD's soon...mark my words... lol lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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Reply #1308 posted 03/14/09 12:25pm

suga10

Arnotts said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Blast from the MJ press conference past:




Michael Jackson
Heal the World Press Conference
Romania, 1992

I'm still trying to figure out what it is that makes him look so much different now than from this. You can still see in this clip that under the extremely long hair and truckload of makeup he has a beautiful face. It's not the skin colour or nose because his skin looks flawless and his nose is still miniture but it doesnt look unnatural. Now both his skin and nose looks weird but they dont seem to have changed. I really cant figure it out. Maybe it really is just the hairstyle and the way he gets his make up done, both are now atrocious rather than just a bit excessive like it used to be.


This was 17 years ago and he was younger that time too. Also, there was not much stress in his life compared to what he has went through in recent years- with all the money problems, allegations stuff. Clearly looks like a man who's at peace with his mind. I think the man's stress in his personal life has taken a toll on the way he looks- thats just my guess. I think he's also a bit too skinny from the face now days as well, that might also make him a little different.
[Edited 3/14/09 12:42pm]
[Edited 3/14/09 12:43pm]
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Reply #1309 posted 03/14/09 12:45pm

angel345

bboy87 said:

Michael and Janet rehearsing for Scream


He looks like he was working out on weights.
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Reply #1310 posted 03/14/09 3:34pm

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setlists from 1987 to 1999

BAD WORLD TOUR


First leg

1. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
2. "Things I Do for You"
3. "Off the Wall"
4. "Human Nature"
5. "Heartbreak Hotel"
6. "She's out of My Life"
7. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. "Rock with You"
9. "Lovely One"

"Bad Groove" Interlude

10. "Workin' Day and Night"
11. "Beat It"
12. "Billie Jean"
13. "Shake Your Body (Down to the Ground)"
14. "Thriller"
15. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
16. "Bad"

Note: Just Good Friends was performed at the November 20 1987 show in Sydney Australia with guest star Stevie Wonder




Second leg

1. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
2. "Heartbreak Hotel"
3. "Another Part of Me"
4. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
5. "She's out of My Life"
6. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
7. "Rock with You"
8. "Human Nature"
9. "Smooth Criminal"
10. "Dirty Diana"
11. "Thriller"

"Bad Groove" Interlude

12. "Workin' Day and Night"
13. "Beat It"
14. "Billie Jean"
15. "Bad"
16. "The Way You Make Me Feel"
17. "Man in the Mirror"

During the US legs, the set list would be re-arranged where Human Nature and Smooth Criminal would be performed earlier in the set. Also in the later dates in 1989, Dirty Diana was taken off the set
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Reply #1311 posted 03/14/09 3:45pm

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Dangerous World Tour


First leg

Carmina Burana "Brace Yourself" Video Introduction

1. "Jam"
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
3. "Human Nature"
4. "Smooth Criminal"
5. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett)
6. "She's out of My Life"
7. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. "Thriller"
9. "Billie Jean"

Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude

10. "Workin' Day and Night"
11. "Beat It"

"Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude

12. "Will You Be There"
13. "The Way You Make Me Feel" (Performed until July 15, 1992 when taken off)
14. "Bad" (Performed until July 15, 1992 when taken off)
15. "Black or White"

"We Are the World" Video Interlude

16. "Heal the World"
17. "Man in the Mirror"


Second leg

Carmina Burana "Brace Yourself" Video Introduction

1. "Jam"
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
3. "Human Nature"
4. "Smooth Criminal"
5. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett)
6. "She's out of My Life"
7. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. "Thriller"
9. "Billie Jean"

Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude

10. "Beat It"

"Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude

11. "Will You Be There"
12. "Dangerous" (Performed on the last few concerts of the tour)
13. "Black or White"

"We Are the World" Video Interlude

14. "Heal the World"
15. "Man in the Mirror"
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Reply #1312 posted 03/14/09 3:48pm

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the Royal Concert in Brunei

Carmina Burana "Brace Yourself" Video Introduction

1. "Jam"
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
3. "Human Nature"
4. "Smooth Criminal"
5. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You"
6. "She's out of My Life"
7. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. "Thriller"
9. "Billie Jean"

Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude

1. "The Way You Make Me Feel"
2. "Beat It"
3. "You Are Not Alone"
4. "Dangerous"
5. "Black or White"
6. "Man in the Mirror"
7. "Earth Song"
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Reply #1313 posted 03/14/09 3:55pm

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HIStory World Tour


"Gates of Kiev" Computer Animation Introduction

1. "Scream" / "They Don't Care About Us" / "In the Closet"
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
3. "Stranger in Moscow"
4. "Smooth Criminal"

"The Wind" Video Interlude

5. "You Are Not Alone"
6. "The Way You Make Me Feel" (September 7, 1996 to June 15, 1997)
7. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. Off the Wall Medley (Only performed on certain concerts on both legs; last performed on June 10, 1997 in Amsterdam)
1. "Rock with You"
2. "Off the Wall"
3. "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough"

"Remember the Time" Video Montage Interlude

9. "Billie Jean"
10. "Thriller"
11. "Beat It"
12. "Come Together" / "D.S." (September 7, 1996 to November 9, 1996)
13. "Blood on the Dance Floor" (May 31, 1997 to August 16, 1997)

Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude

14. "Dangerous"
15. "Black or White"
16. "Earth Song"

"We Are the World" Video Interlude

17. "Heal the World"
18. "HIStory"
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Reply #1314 posted 03/14/09 4:56pm

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bboy87 said:

HIStory World Tour


"Gates of Kiev" Computer Animation Introduction

1. "Scream" / "They Don't Care About Us" / "In the Closet"
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
3. "Stranger in Moscow"
4. "Smooth Criminal"

"The Wind" Video Interlude

5. "You Are Not Alone"
6. "The Way You Make Me Feel" (September 7, 1996 to June 15, 1997)
7. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. Off the Wall Medley (Only performed on certain concerts on both legs; last performed on June 10, 1997 in Amsterdam)
1. "Rock with You"
2. "Off the Wall"
3. "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough"

"Remember the Time" Video Montage Interlude

9. "Billie Jean"
10. "Thriller"
11. "Beat It"
12. "Come Together" / "D.S." (September 7, 1996 to November 9, 1996)
13. "Blood on the Dance Floor" (May 31, 1997 to August 16, 1997)

Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude

14. "Dangerous"
15. "Black or White"
16. "Earth Song"

"We Are the World" Video Interlude

17. "Heal the World"
18. "HIStory"



Just for accuracy - Scream / TDCAU / ITC were all individual songs not a medley.
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Reply #1315 posted 03/14/09 5:07pm

bboy87

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Swa said:

bboy87 said:

HIStory World Tour


"Gates of Kiev" Computer Animation Introduction

1. "Scream" / "They Don't Care About Us" / "In the Closet"
2. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"
3. "Stranger in Moscow"
4. "Smooth Criminal"

"The Wind" Video Interlude

5. "You Are Not Alone"
6. "The Way You Make Me Feel" (September 7, 1996 to June 15, 1997)
7. Jackson 5 Medley
1. "I Want You Back"
2. "The Love You Save"
3. "I'll Be There"
8. Off the Wall Medley (Only performed on certain concerts on both legs; last performed on June 10, 1997 in Amsterdam)
1. "Rock with You"
2. "Off the Wall"
3. "Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough"

"Remember the Time" Video Montage Interlude

9. "Billie Jean"
10. "Thriller"
11. "Beat It"
12. "Come Together" / "D.S." (September 7, 1996 to November 9, 1996)
13. "Blood on the Dance Floor" (May 31, 1997 to August 16, 1997)

Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude

14. "Dangerous"
15. "Black or White"
16. "Earth Song"

"We Are the World" Video Interlude

17. "Heal the World"
18. "HIStory"



Just for accuracy - Scream / TDCAU / ITC were all individual songs not a medley.


alot of fans see it as a medley. They were somewhat connected

I'm still mad that he would start She Drives Me Wild then cut it off
mad lol
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Reply #1316 posted 03/14/09 5:17pm

Timmy84

Fuck 'em medleys, lol.
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Reply #1317 posted 03/14/09 5:37pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #1318 posted 03/14/09 9:29pm

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bboy87 said:



That's weird - the opening I saw the 5 of them stepped up from under the stage into the wall of lights, then if wend down behind them. Here it seems they appear behind it.
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Reply #1319 posted 03/14/09 9:30pm

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Swa said:

bboy87 said:



That's weird - the opening I saw the 5 of them stepped up from under the stage into the wall of lights, then if wend down behind them. Here it seems they appear behind it.

what show did you go to?

The whole setup was different from the 87 and 88-89 shows
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