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Reply #990 posted 03/08/09 8:13pm

suga10

graecophilos said:

suga10 said:

MJ leaving the UK today to go back to the States.

He is really lazy when it comes to dressing up, he's wearing the same shirt he wore to see the musical. lol

He looks good. Hopefully he keeps up the trend of stopping the disguises.

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I think you're being unfair. Normal people don't wear different things every day too. At least not where I live. It's okay to wear your trousers for a few days, and it's even more okay to wear the same jacket and stuff as long as it's not dirty or sweaty.
It's unrealistic to think stars should never wear the same thinks twice.

anyway, he looks great, amazingly thin and his nose is different. bigger?


I didn't say there was anything wrong with wearing the same clothes again, I'm just saying he was wearing the same shirt on back to back days lol

Yeah I think he looks great too. Yeah the nose looks bigger, but I heard rumors that he wears a detachable nose tip is that true or is it tabloid bullshit???
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Reply #991 posted 03/08/09 8:22pm

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ever think that he has multiples of the same thing?? Or that he does it so that folk can't figure out when a picture was taken?
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #992 posted 03/08/09 8:27pm

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Evvy said:

ever think that he has multiples of the same thing?? Or that he does it so that folk can't figure out when a picture was taken?


Great point cool
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Reply #993 posted 03/08/09 8:38pm

suga10

http://www.express.co.uk/...tar-friend


JACKSON’S RARING TO GO SAYS CHILD STAR FRIEND

Sunday March 8,2009
By James Murray and Charlotte Heathcote

FORMER child star Mark Lester has dismissed rumours that his pal Michael ­Jackson may not be up to a string of comeback concerts this summer.

Mark, 49, who rose to fame in Oliver!, said: ‘‘Michael is absolutely fine and there should be no concerns over his health.

I have spent a lot of time with him while he has been over here and I can assure you he is very fit and well. He can’t wait to get back to Los Angeles to begin rehearsals.

He has been talking about doing a lot of new stuff, not music, but dance routines, so I think people will be quite surprised by his shows. He wants to pull together all the talent he can. He is raring to go.

Mark was 1 when he starred in the film of Lionel Bart’s musical film but now works as an osteopath in Gloucestershire.

When the Jackson Five ­visited London more than 30 years ago, the young Michael asked to meet him and they have stayed friends.

Jackson is godfather to his four children, Lucy, 17, Harriet, 15, Olivia, 13 and Felix, nine from Mark’s marriage to his first wife Jane. He later married psychiatric nurse Lisa, 35.

On Friday night the Lesters went with Jackson and his children Prince Michael, 12, and Paris, 11, to the latest version of Oliver! in the West End, starring Rowan Atkinson, on Friday.

The 50-year-old singer was mobbed by fans, recalling his glory days before the sex abuse allegations.

We all had a fantastic time at the theatre, said Mark. Michael said Oliver! is still his favourite musical and he was singing along to some of the songs.

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Afterwards we went backstage and met the cast, which he greatly enjoyed. He said he is really loving his time in London and is very pleased by the welcome.

My children get on very well with his and we have all been having a great time. My kids can’t wait for the ­concerts.

Rumours began about Jackson’s health when he was seen coming out of a clinic in Los Angeles in a wheelchair after reportedly contracting the superbug MRSA, a claim later denied by his staff.

US author Ian Halperin, who posed as a hairdresser to get close to the singer for a book to be published in the UK soon, said: When I saw him he looked frail and weak. At that time I did not think he would be able to perform an exhausting concert. It will be fascinating to see if he can get back in shape .

I think when the adrenalin starts pumping he will be OK but I don’t think the dance ­routines will be as spectacular in the past.

Halperin also claimed that Jackson wears a wig in public. I saw him without the wig and he has short cropped salt and pepper hair like millions of other men in their 50s, he said.

It was a bit like seeing a clown with his make up off.

When Jackson announced his This is it concerts at the 02 arena he looked his trademark self, with long thick dark hair.

Rob Hallett, president of promoters AEG Live International, said of the wig claim: I can categorically deny that. .

He also said Jacko had a full check-up to see if he was fit for the 10 live shows that will earn him £50million.

He’s fitter than I’ll ever be. His cholesterol levels, his blood, everything was perfect and we got the ­insurance,said Mr Hallett.

[Edited 3/8/09 13:40pm]
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Reply #994 posted 03/08/09 8:47pm

cdcgold

whatsgoingon said:

Serena said:



I'm not sure how to explain this right, but it's more about not liking what he has become, not what he's produced
. There isn't much truly new music to discuss, but most people agree on liking his stuff up through Thriller. I liked Dirty Diana and a couple others since then, but not enough to buy anything.

As for Madge, I've never liked 'her', but will listen to some of her music occasionally when I want to hear some dance type stuff. But there's no way that I think it's 'great', it's just silly pop.


But don't you think how one becomes can have an impact on their music? So let's say Michael becomes more superficial, more obsesse with Peter Pan and Neverland can't that reflect in the music he produces? Have you noticed once Michael officially broke away from his brothers not only did he become more like Peter Pan but so did his music? The amount of sickly, sweet "Heal The World" songs that became part of his music doubled. I mean some of the stuff that he has on his latter albums make songs like "Ben" and "Happy" sound real deep!



okay you make it sound like he has a million sappy songs, post me a lost of all his peter pan like songs for me, I think he only has a few
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Reply #995 posted 03/08/09 8:49pm

cdcgold

yoco said:[quote]

NaughtyKitty said:

seeingvoices12 said:



If Jackson were smart, he'd include his brothers and sister, cut them in for a little action, and make the O2 Arena shows a family affair. Jackson's performance with his brothers at his 30th anniversary shows at Madison Square Garden in September 2001 were the highlights of the concert.

Stay tuned...

http://www.foxnews.com/st...,00.html#1


I totally agree w/ adding his brothers to the tour. I hated when Michael performed J5/Jackson songs w/ fake Jackson/J5 backup singers. Stupid, when the really back-up is aching to perform. Also, hate when uber MJ fans act like his career started w/ Thriller (which by the way is not better than Destiny, Off the Wall or Triumph in my opinion). I would love to see a Jackson reunion; now that would be cool if they could pull it off.



you're mad because you think his fans like thriller the best, other people are mad that some of his fans like history and dangerous more than thriller, come on people which one is it? the guy can't win
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Reply #996 posted 03/08/09 8:51pm

cdcgold

graecophilos said:

cdcgold said:

i have a suspicion that if mj was "black" when he made history then you people would give it the props it deserves, it is so sad people can't get over exterior appearances


my enjoyment with his songs have nothing to do wth his skin colour. I can say that, because IÄm fan since 2002! Practiacally ALL of my favorite tunes I knew and liked before I became a fan, and beore I knew much about his color. As a child I just loved his songs, before I became too intellectual about it.

So I admit, I might critize HIStory because it doesn't fit with my ideal picture of MJ - making black music, black soul ballads.

But as a child I was able to enjoy his songs from the heart without saying:... yes, but..

I certainly would have preffered Earth Song over Lady In my... but now I'm spiled by the experts

You get what IÄm saying?



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Reply #997 posted 03/08/09 8:52pm

suga10

What do you mean by Peter Pan songs lol

The only ones were Will You Be There, Heal the World, Childhood, and the Lost children lol

I hate this song though: Cheesiest song and video ever by MJ

http://www.youtube.com/wa...VJscGa5vbc
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Reply #998 posted 03/08/09 8:55pm

cdcgold

graecophilos said:

cdcgold said:

i have a suspicion that if mj was "black" when he made history then you people would give it the props it deserves, it is so sad people can't get over exterior appearances


my enjoyment with his songs have nothing to do wth his skin colour. I can say that, because IÄm fan since 2002! Practiacally ALL of my favorite tunes I knew and liked before I became a fan, and beore I knew much about his color. As a child I just loved his songs, before I became too intellectual about it.

So I admit, I might critize HIStory because it doesn't fit with my ideal picture of MJ - making black music, black soul ballads.

But as a child I was able to enjoy his songs from the heart without saying:... yes, but..

I certainly would have preffered Earth Song over Lady In my... but now I'm spiled by the experts

You get what IÄm saying?



people need to get over it, it's not fair that black artist are boxed in and expected to do "black" music, while white artis can do anything they want really any american music is black music, because all american music originated in the blues, which was created by Blacks.
if mj wants to do rock songs, he can and since black people made rock and roll, it is black, the same with anything else. learn your history( if you are black)
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Reply #999 posted 03/08/09 8:58pm

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This is from Holly on KOP. A summary of MJ's week

* Sunday March 1st Christian Audigier breaks the news to a paparazzo for Hollywood.tv that Michael will be flying to London to announce summer concerts.
* Tuesday March 3rd Michael Jackson lands via private jet (possibly Harrod's owner Mohammed Al-Fayeds) at Luton Airport, London around 2pm with this three children and advisor Dr Tohme Tohme. The sole shot of him exiting the plane was taken by The Sun's Paparazzo J. Bond. Michael arrived at the Lanesborough around 5pm using the back entrance. Most of the paparazzi were waiting at the front of the hotel so there are only 1 or 2 very blurry shots of his arrival at the hotel. His kids had masks on and shook hands with hotel staff that were waiting at the door. Michael was wearing all black, no mask, no fedora, it was just a few seconds, but he turned back to the few fans there and waved.
* Wednesday March 4th Michael Jackson does not leave the hotel all day. Hotel /securitystaff came out of hotel and said to fans Michael had a dinner in the hotel with his kids and put the kids to bed.
* Thursday March 5th Michael Jackson travels to the 02 arena to attend his press conference. He gets stuck in traffic and arrives 1.5 hours late. After the press conference he meets Britain's Got Talent's Suleman Mirza who was backstage preparing to perform at the 02 later that day. Michael said he remembered Suleman. When his coach takes him back to the Lanesborough he becomes trapped in the vehicle because fans are all over it. His driver was about to drive away again but police finally managed to push the fans back so Michael could get into the hotel. Prince and Blanket and Michael wave from the hotel window later that day.
* Friday March 6th Michael Jackson is mobbed by fans to and from attending the show Oliver! on Drury Lane. Police on horses try to control the crowd. Michael was pushed in the side cos of the crowd and almost fell over but a fan caught him. People say he smiled and sat on the ground at one stage cos he couldnt move due to the crowd.
A fan may or may not have jumped on/attempted to hug Paris Jackson. Comedian Alan Davies updates his Twitter to describe the moment Michael Jackson arrived at the theatre and sat next to his wife with his 3 children, Prince, Paris and Blanket and bodyguards. He said there was a commotion when Michael arrived - people asked for autographs etc Michael hugged a fan in the interval. Other audience members say he was clapping and seemed to know all the words to the songs.
* Saturday 7th March Michael Jackson stays in his hotel all day reportedly doing various interviews with the press. A journalist from NME magazine leaves the hotel after the interview and says MJ was really nice. Michael Jackson waves from his hotel room window shortly after midnight which causes hysteria among fans. Hotel staff say he is not scheduled to leave until Monday or Tuesday.
* Sunday 8th March Michael Jackson leaves London by private jet from Luton. He is rumoured to be appearing on American Idol's Michael Jackson week. He is taking over an entire advert break on ITV at 9:30pm with a montage of his past concerts promoting the o2 shows.
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Reply #1000 posted 03/08/09 8:58pm

suga10

I wasn't a big fan of History either, barring four songs- YANA, Scream, Earth Song, and Stranger in Moscow, none of the songs were what you can call great by any means. I think it wasn't as good as his previous release at that time Dangerous.

I never cared about DS, Money, Tabloid Junkie, Don't care about us, etc.
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Reply #1001 posted 03/08/09 9:01pm

cdcgold

suga10 said:

What do you mean by Peter Pan songs lol

The only ones were Will You Be There, Heal the World, Childhood, and the Lost children lol

I hate this song though: Cheesiest song and video ever by MJ

http://www.youtube.com/wa...VJscGa5vbc
[Edited 3/8/09 13:54pm]

will you be there is not sappy, if anything it has a gospel feel to it
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Reply #1002 posted 03/08/09 9:03pm

suga10

cdcgold said:

suga10 said:

What do you mean by Peter Pan songs lol

The only ones were Will You Be There, Heal the World, Childhood, and the Lost children lol

I hate this song though: Cheesiest song and video ever by MJ

http://www.youtube.com/wa...VJscGa5vbc
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will you be there is not sappy, if anything it has a gospel feel to it


Never said it was sappy, just saying that amongst one of his songs which were dedicated to children.
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Reply #1003 posted 03/08/09 9:13pm

suga10

bboy87 said:


* Sunday 8th March Michael Jackson leaves London by private jet from Luton. He is rumoured to be appearing on American Idol's Michael Jackson week. He is taking over an entire advert break on ITV at 9:30pm with a montage of his past concerts promoting the o2 shows.


biggrin

Surprise appearance.

I predict it will be true. cool
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Reply #1004 posted 03/08/09 9:42pm

graecophilos

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rubyred69 said:

Evvy said:

ever think that he has multiples of the same thing?? Or that he does it so that folk can't figure out when a picture was taken?


Great point cool


but what's so bad about wearing good things twice? One shouldn't offend him over that!

And why should he care when people think a pic was taken? he gets hazzled anyway.
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Reply #1005 posted 03/08/09 9:45pm

suga10

graecophilos said:

rubyred69 said:



Great point cool


but what's so bad about wearing good things twice? One shouldn't offend him over that!

And why should he care when people think a pic was taken? he gets hazzled anyway.


No one was offending him over that, it was just a joke LOL.

In fact I thought it was cool to see this normal side of his cool
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Reply #1006 posted 03/08/09 9:50pm

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cdcgold said:

graecophilos said:



my enjoyment with his songs have nothing to do wth his skin colour. I can say that, because IÄm fan since 2002! Practiacally ALL of my favorite tunes I knew and liked before I became a fan, and beore I knew much about his color. As a child I just loved his songs, before I became too intellectual about it.

So I admit, I might critize HIStory because it doesn't fit with my ideal picture of MJ - making black music, black soul ballads.

But as a child I was able to enjoy his songs from the heart without saying:... yes, but..

I certainly would have preffered Earth Song over Lady In my... but now I'm spiled by the experts

You get what IÄm saying?



people need to get over it, it's not fair that black artist are boxed in and expected to do "black" music, while white artis can do anything they want really any american music is black music, because all american music originated in the blues, which was created by Blacks.
if mj wants to do rock songs, he can and since black people made rock and roll, it is black, the same with anything else. learn your history( if you are black)


No, I'm not. That's me on the left
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Reply #1007 posted 03/08/09 9:58pm

suga10

I personally don't care what kind of music MJ makes- white or black music. It shows that he's versatile and can fit into all sort of style, part of being a great artist, is diversifying your styles.
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Reply #1008 posted 03/08/09 10:23pm

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Time waits for no one



Thats what you get for being polite music

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Reply #1009 posted 03/08/09 11:03pm

Swa

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If you first remember Michael when he was about 16, you can understand the reality of his situation now. He has become a shell of his former self.

I think the best thing to happen to Michael, musically, is that he started so young and therefore he managed to build up such a large catalogue of songs with & without his brothers before he was 25.

If he were to depend on the last 20 yrs, he would have no musical legacy whats so ever.


Well to be fair to this statement I will look at MJ's legacy post 25 which is the year 1983. And to also be fair I won't include the Victory album of 1984 as this was with his brothers.

So with that in mind, the musical legacy we have is:

Co-writer of "We are the World"
Album release Bad - with 5 consecutive #1 songs and 9 singles released including I Just Can't Stop Loving You (#1), Bad (#1), "The Way You Make Me Feel" (#1), "Man in the Mirror" (#1), "Dirty Diana" (#1), "Another Part of Me"(#1 R&B Charts, top 20 US), "Smooth Criminal" (Top 10 US chart), "Leave me alone", "Liberian Girl". 30 million albums sold worldwide - 8 million sold US.

Album Release: Dangerous - 30 million sold worldwide - 7 million sold US. 9 Singles released including 1 #1, and 4 Top 10 singles US. Singles were - "Black or White" (#1 US), "Remember the time", "In The Closet", "Jam", "Who Is it?" , "Heal the world", Give in to me", "Will you be there", "Gone too soon".

Album Release: HiStory - 18 million sold with 5 singles - 1 #1 and 2 top 10 hits
Singles - "Scream" (top 5 US), "You are not Alone" (#1 US), "Earth Song", "They Don't Care About Us", "Stranger in Moscow".

Album Release: Invincible - 10 million copies with 3 singles 1 Top 10, 1 Top 20.
Singles: "You rock my world", "Cry", Butterflies"

So looking back on this, we have 4 #1 album releases, and a multitude of top 10 hits. Not a bad legacy at all.

Swa
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Reply #1010 posted 03/08/09 11:06pm

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Michael Jackson hints at new album..

From his official website:

" IT IS NOW I SEE AND FEEL THAT CALLING ONCE AGAIN, TO BE PART OF A MUSIC THAT WILL NOT JUST CONNECT BUT, MAKE ALL FEEL ONE, ONE IN JOY, ONE IN PAIN, ONE IN LOVE, ONE IN SERVICE AND IN CONCIOUSNESS "

Michael Jackson

http://www.michaeljackson.com
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Reply #1011 posted 03/08/09 11:12pm

angel345

I think he rocked this performance and it's been 8 years:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...74Y_p6or00
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Reply #1012 posted 03/08/09 11:24pm

suga10

angel345 said:

I think he rocked this performance and it's been 8 years:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...74Y_p6or00



Yeah that performance was tight, but I remember in that special- he wasn't doing his best at certain points. I heard he was not feeling well that time during that special.

Remember this:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...vTWrPM&eur
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Reply #1013 posted 03/08/09 11:28pm

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rsggamer said:

Michael Jackson hints at new album..

From his official website:

" IT IS NOW I SEE AND FEEL THAT CALLING ONCE AGAIN, TO BE PART OF A MUSIC THAT WILL NOT JUST CONNECT BUT, MAKE ALL FEEL ONE, ONE IN JOY, ONE IN PAIN, ONE IN LOVE, ONE IN SERVICE AND IN CONCIOUSNESS "

Michael Jackson

http://www.michaeljackson.com



the more i hear of him lately the more i'm kind of sickened. he talks and acts like hes some kind of god. that video at the start of the "conference'...wtf. me and my lady were watching in horror. absolutely sickening. the man is an egomaniac.

this was the peak of it (for i dont know how much longer), the brit awards 95....lordy lordy.
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Reply #1014 posted 03/08/09 11:30pm

suga10

WetDream said:

rsggamer said:

Michael Jackson hints at new album..

From his official website:

" IT IS NOW I SEE AND FEEL THAT CALLING ONCE AGAIN, TO BE PART OF A MUSIC THAT WILL NOT JUST CONNECT BUT, MAKE ALL FEEL ONE, ONE IN JOY, ONE IN PAIN, ONE IN LOVE, ONE IN SERVICE AND IN CONCIOUSNESS "

Michael Jackson

http://www.michaeljackson.com



the more i hear of him lately the more i'm kind of sickened. he talks and acts like hes some kind of god. that video at the start of the "conference'...wtf. me and my lady were watching in horror. absolutely sickening. the man is an egomaniac.

this was the peak of it (for i dont know how much longer), the brit awards 95....lordy lordy.


Well duh he's Michael Jackson
smile

It must hard to be level-headed living in his sort of world where he gets mobbed like crazy everywhere he goes, and people squeel seeing him. lol

Madonna is an ego-maniac too. Why not pick on her as well?

Least the guy doesn't overcharge his ticket prices for his fans and cares about them. Madonna's charging more money for her UK shows- and she honestly give a rat's ass over her fans.

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Reply #1015 posted 03/08/09 11:40pm

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WetDream said:

rsggamer said:

Michael Jackson hints at new album..

From his official website:

" IT IS NOW I SEE AND FEEL THAT CALLING ONCE AGAIN, TO BE PART OF A MUSIC THAT WILL NOT JUST CONNECT BUT, MAKE ALL FEEL ONE, ONE IN JOY, ONE IN PAIN, ONE IN LOVE, ONE IN SERVICE AND IN CONCIOUSNESS "

Michael Jackson

http://www.michaeljackson.com



the more i hear of him lately the more i'm kind of sickened. he talks and acts like hes some kind of god. that video at the start of the "conference'...wtf. me and my lady were watching in horror. absolutely sickening. the man is an egomaniac.

this was the peak of it (for i dont know how much longer), the brit awards 95....lordy lordy.


Oh please mad , stop negativity just for once, its really getting boring, what the hell mj said to make say this and be negative? enough already.

back on topic:

thats a hint for a new album release lol
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #1016 posted 03/08/09 11:40pm

angel345

suga10 said:

angel345 said:

I think he rocked this performance and it's been 8 years:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...74Y_p6or00



Yeah that performance was tight, but I remember in that special- he wasn't doing his best at certain points. I heard he was not feeling well that time during that special.

Remember this:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...vTWrPM&eur

Wow! this had to been after "Billie Jean", then.
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Reply #1017 posted 03/08/09 11:42pm

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suga10 said:

I wasn't a big fan of History either, barring four songs- YANA, Scream, Earth Song, and Stranger in Moscow, none of the songs were what you can call great by any means. I think it wasn't as good as his previous release at that time Dangerous.

I never cared about DS, Money, Tabloid Junkie, Don't care about us, etc.
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Though I liked HIStory, it was a personal project. Almost every song was aimed at the press, Tom Sneddon or the people that didn't like him and thought he was guilty.

I still enjoy "They Don't Care About Us", "DS", "This Time Around", "Stranger In Moscow", and "Smile".
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Reply #1018 posted 03/08/09 11:44pm

suga10

angel345 said:

suga10 said:




Yeah that performance was tight, but I remember in that special- he wasn't doing his best at certain points. I heard he was not feeling well that time during that special.

Remember this:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...vTWrPM&eur

Wow! this had to been after "Billie Jean", then.


I heard they edited that special like crazy. MJ didn't perform well on one night, but did better on the second night I think. They had a lot of cut and paste jobs done for that one special.

See the real billie jean, apparently from a video camera in the concert

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #1019 posted 03/08/09 11:44pm

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No sense of normality, he's never known that unlike the rest of us (who haven't hit a stage since 5yrs old and since became the most famous human ever). Mike doesn't have to be humble.

Humble people are pussies. Or folk that can't (or won't try to) understand that are, at least.
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