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Printablemeow85 said: TD3 said: My era...I never heard the Beatles called a "boy band" nor marketed that way the same could be said of the Jackson 5. All the Beatles were in their twenties'bout time they hit Stateside. Boy bands as I've said, have a short, predictable shelf life.... they don't survive after adolescenses. [Edited 3/1/09 9:32am] Dude, you could buy Beatles' wigs. Silly merchandise is one of the hallmarks of what traditionally constitutes a boyband. Not only that, but they were aggresively marketed toward adolescent girls in the beginning, and even gave rise to the now-standard custom of assiging a "character" to each boy in a group, i.e. The Smart One, The Cute One, etc. It may come as a surprise to you, but at least half of all boyband members don't even start until their early 20's. Really, I wonder why soooo many lie about their age.  You didn't tell me what boy bands you like and why?[Edited 3/1/09 20:37pm] | |
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TD3 said: Maybe I didn't answer your question to your satisfactory but I answered it.
Boy bands tend to be heavily criticized for appealing to young pubescent girls and for emphasizing marketing and packaging over quality of music.Most of these boy bands don't write their own music (with some notable exceptions) nor do they play instruments. They are what they are... prefab groups which fad away as quickly as they arrived. That's why I said, you can see that 15 mins clock ticking away. 
Many of the "guy groups" mentioned on this thread neither wrote nor produced all or in some cases any of their material, yet no one's holding that against them. Ditto that for the lack of instruments played by many of these groups. Not onyl that, but quite a few were formed via the audition process, just like some -not all, some -boybands were. So where's the difference? Race? Please... not a factor at all. New Edition and Boys II Men..... didn't like them either. Meow85, please tell what boy bands do you like and why? I actually only like Backstreet Boys, but unlike most people I have nothing against other groups of their kind. Why do I like them? -They never claimed to be more than anything but what they are. That said, their only album that didn't feature some songwriting or production work by the Boys themselves was their first international release. -They harmonize well together, knowing better than many vocal groups how to use one singer's strengths to cover for another's weakness. They can throw down some a cappella like nobody's business. Having heard this live and in a situation where mics or digital assistance would have been impossible -in a parking lot, of all places -I can attest to this. -They had the balls to call out Lou Pearlman for being a crook before anyone else did. Given that he was their manager at the time and as good as owned their souls, that's got to be respected. -They have a knack for gaining support from others in an industry where boybands are bottom of the barrel -when Jamie Foxx cracked a joke about AJ's drinking problem at the 2001 MTV awards, he got boos and jeers from the crowd instead of the laughter he was apparently expecting. -As of this April 20th, they'll have hit the 16 year mark of their beginning a very long time for a boyband -and even they're humble enough to be as surprised by that fact as the rest of the world is. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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TD3 said: meow85 said: Dude, you could buy Beatles' wigs. Silly merchandise is one of the hallmarks of what traditionally constitutes a boyband. Not only that, but they were aggresively marketed toward adolescent girls in the beginning, and even gave rise to the now-standard custom of assiging a "character" to each boy in a group, i.e. The Smart One, The Cute One, etc. It may come as a surprise to you, but at least half of all boyband members don't even start until their early 20's. Really, I wonder why soooo many lie about their age. You didn't tell me what boy bands you like and why?
[Edited 3/1/09 20:37pm] I have never heard of any boyband members who've lied about their ages. Lied about virgin status and sexual orientation, but age? No. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: TD3 said: My era...I never heard the Beatles called a "boy band" nor marketed that way the same could be said of the Jackson 5. All the Beatles were in their twenties 'bout time they hit Stateside. Boy bands as I've said, have a short, predictable shelf life.... they don't survive after adolescences. [Edited 3/1/09 9:32am] Dude, you could buy Beatles' wigs. Silly merchandise is one of the hallmarks of what traditionally constitutes a boy-band. Not only that, but they were aggressively marketed toward adolescent girls in the beginning, and even gave rise to the now-standard custom of assigning a "character" to each boy in a group, i.e. The Smart One, The Cute One, etc. It may come as a surprise to you, but at least half of all boy-band members don't even start until their early 20's. Let me explain those time or at how I view it: Meow, their was nothing that wasn't merchandise to the hilt when kids/youth.grew up in the 50's, 60's early 70's. Anything that young kids or teenagers had an interest somebody made tons shit for our parents to purchase. This was back in the day, 3 TV stations ( Chicago was big time we had 8 stations) children's programming took up 40/50 percent airtime with every show ending with them selling you something from that show. As far the Jackson 5, I saw them on a regular bases at area talent shows and theaters way before they came famous. Did their audience consist of some screaming girls yeah but men, women, boys and girls went those concerts. Sign of the times those crowds in attendance, were all black. Though, the Jackson's did play strip joints. How many boy bands do you know played strip clubs? Something tell me we're going to have to agree to respectively disagree on this. But my initial statement of what I think makes them different stands. IMHO
Sorry guys for all the typos, I'm punching this out on a Blackberry.It's tuff to hit the right little button, . [Edited 3/1/09 21:38pm] | |
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TD3 said: meow85 said: Dude, you could buy Beatles' wigs. Silly merchandise is one of the hallmarks of what traditionally constitutes a boy-band. Not only that, but they were aggressively marketed toward adolescent girls in the beginning, and even gave rise to the now-standard custom of assigning a "character" to each boy in a group, i.e. The Smart One, The Cute One, etc. It may come as a surprise to you, but at least half of all boy-band members don't even start until their early 20's. Let me explain those time or at how I view it: Meow, their was nothing that wasn't merchandise to the hilt when kids/youth.grew up in the 50's, 60's early 70's. Anything that young kids or teenagers had an interest somebody made tons shit for our parents to purchase. This was back in the day, 3 TV stations ( Chicago was big time we had 8 stations) children's programming took up 40/50 percent airtime with every show ending with them selling you something from that show. As far the Jackson 5, I saw them on a regular bases at area talent shows and theaters way before they came famous. Did their audience consist of some screaming girls yeah but men, women, boys and girls went those concerts. Sign of the times those crowds in attendance, were all black. Though, the Jackson's did play strip joints. How many boy bands do you know played strip clubs? Something tell me we're going to have to agree to respectively disagree on this. But my initial statement of what I think makes them different stands. IMHO
Sorry guys for all the typos, I'm punching this out on a Blackberry.It's tuff to hit the right little button, . [Edited 3/1/09 21:38pm] ...and most boyband audiences also range from young to old, male and female. Are their screaming girls? Of course. But there's everyone else too. How is J5 having played in stripjoints as minors relevent to the distinction you're trying to make between boybands and other groups? Where is the real difference between these kinds of acts? Much of what's mentioned for boybands is true of other vocal harmony groups, and vice versa. IMO it's a completely arbitrary distinction. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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