bboy87 said:

why?

bboy87 said:

Hot damn!

Now he has just extended his gig (I heard this on UK news surprisenly-must be a slow news day LOL), a new single and album is a must for this summer now surely?

Any info?

thesexofit said:

Don't know about all of that (single and album). That came from THE SUN of all things but we'll see by July.

Timmy84 said:

Really? I had no idea an article had been made of this rumour LOL. I just assumed something must happen this summer. Its the perfect time to drop the album and Iam sure Sony would release it (though I have lost track if Mike even has a contract with Sony. Its too complicated LOL)

thesexofit said:

Apparently, he still does

thesexofit said:

all the indicators give the impression that MJ is still with sony, so the new album will maybe released under their label,we will know soon
[Edited 3/11/09 17:06pm]

That massive contract he signed with Sony in 1991 is over now right? What was it, 6 albums? It still confuses me if he owns his masters? Judging by the silly amount of complilations recently, I assume no.

Swa said:

Yeah someone already mentioned that. It's awful to the real fans but I guess they're just trying to sell out the shows. I've already got tickets but they're not good enough so I'm going to try again on Friday and if they're still not good, again a couple of days later.

thesexofit said:

yeah, The Ultimate collection was his last, but we still don't know what happened after this, some say that many things have changed since the departure of the tommy mottola, time will tell, MJ owns his masters

thesexofit said:

That's the confusing part.

seeingvoices12 said:

someone on KOP talked about it

bboy87 said:[quote]

seeingvoices12 said:

In other words, he's still with Epic.

Thanks for the post bboy. It still confuses me though LOL. Also, this "OTW 30" better not deter Mike from releasing something new. Remember, they did release those 2001 special editions along with "invincible" at pretty much the same time, so there is still some hope.

Iam still pissed at "OTW 30". I know Mike was behind "thriller 25" and probably "number ones", but those others?

Not related, but I remember Mike reportedly saying he was pissed at Motown releasing "farewell my summer love" at the time LOL. Something like "I dont even like some of those songs" LOL. Mike is funny.

thesexofit said:

I wonder if he was mad at Motown releasing all those compilations.

thesexofit said:

OTW30 won't interfere

I remember when Sony announced the remasters for Destiny and Triumph, I got into a huge argument with some fans because they were complaining that they were going to interfere with the upcoming album and I was telling them Thriller 25 didn't and these re-releases wouldn't either. They were going about saying "Nobody even wants these" and "I already have the greatest hits, I don't need the full albums"


One fan was all mad then I said "Have you even owned or heard these albums in full?" and guess what? They hadn't

Ahh, i'm feeling so conflicted right now. I want to see him so bad in concert, but I don't see how it's possible for me to go to London. I'm worried he wont come to the U.S. at all. I've seen every artist that i've ever wanted to see in concert except Michael. If he doesn't come here i'll be so dissapointed.

bboy87 said:

Ain't it funny how some folks act?

bboy87 said:

I havn't bothered yet with those Jacksons remasters. Now a "victory" one would be cool, as I only have that on vinyl (i love my gatefold vinyl as I love the albums cover).

If anything, despite myself being against "thriller 25" (I dont own it, but I woulda done if "hot street" was on it LOL, and I actually prefer and LOVE the early leak of "for all time" to the finished version, which I heard online of course), its a good thing it happened, as it tells Sony Mike can still sell worldwide.

thesexofit said:

I bought Thriller 25 just for Got The Hots

bboy87 said:

Wasn't that Japan only? Now it makes sense why I saw it on that "list your Japanese issues thread" LOL

Heres one of many unanswered Jacko questions. "Hold my hand". How did that leak and will it be released? I do not like Akon LOL, and to me, its more Akon featuring Mike, so whilst I would not mind if its released (I think the song is pleasant enough and would grow on me. And it fits Mike quite well actually) but will it be? Could be a big hit that one.

thesexofit said:

Well it WAS Japan only, then Sony went and put it on a couple editions of King of Pop.

Hold My Hand was supposed to be on Michael's new album and Akon's new album also, but someone (probably in Akon's camp) leaked it and they decided that the suprise had been wasted

Akon said the song had gotten 15 million "unauthorized" downloads

bboy87 said:

They should just release "hold my hand" as a stand alone single or something? I mean, I've only heard it a couple of times, but it is catchy. Iam surprised to say this, but Mike teaming up with Akon for other tracks might not be such a bad idea after all.

thesexofit said:

Yeah, but I'd prefer him to work with someone else

bboy87 said:

I'd rather David Foster again. That and himself produce alone of course.

Mike always works with current "hot" producers post Quincy. So judging by that one leaked song with Akon, he seems a good bet. Teddy again would be cool despite the lack of hits for about the last 10 years LOL. Even Rodney had a few decent tracks with Jacko. Not sure about Will iam, but we'll see. Mike always brings alot to whomever he works with, so its not too much of a big deal really. He is never a "puppet" to any producer. Imagine anyone daring to talk back to Mike in the studio LOL.

Dude does amazing things in the studio, and producers know this. They work with Mike, not the other way round LOL. Bill Botrell was an obscurity (for Jacko's standards) though. As was Bryan Loren, so he isn't always about massive "hot". producers. Who knows what'll happen

thesexofit said:

Looking at his track record, he seems to work with the current producers and take what they have to offer and blend it with his own vibe, which I think is pretty cool.

He took Teddy Riley's NJS sound, mixed it with the "Jackson sound" and you got Dangerous. You'd think most New Jack Swing songs would be dated, but Dangerous has aged well

bboy87 said:

That's one of the only reasons I'm not pissed off at his choices, also it's a possibility they could NOT be on the album anyways (because they braggin' too damn much).

I'm going on a MJ/Jacksons vinyl dig tomorrow

I saw a copy of "Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5" a couple of weeks ago for about $9.....in near MINT CONDITION

bboy87 said:

Yeah, as I mentioned, he works with them whilst always, as you said, jacko's sound. Which is why it never scares me too much, who he says he is working with. Still want more shit on his own though. Or with that Buzz Kohen guy?

And I still remember an article before "dangerous" got released (I didn't read it at the time mind...) that said the whole album was with Teddy. Well, that didn't happen. And acording to Jermaine, Mike musta worked with La reid and Babyface on "dangerous" aswell (apparantly, as you probably know, Jermaine had to wait for La reid/Babyface to finish working with Michael, before they would work with him). And all those Bryan Loren tracks?

Anyway, point is, they all have different qualities. The Loren tracks I must admit do not differ much from his own album at the time. "Work that body" sounds identical to Lorens "trouble in paradise" for example.But anyway, I wanna hear them all, no matter who the producer was. I love all 3 of those teams. Only ones that scare me a little are some of those "invincible" outtakes from the late 90's. Will Smith? Puff Daddy? Bloody Dru Hill? "Invincible" coulda been atrocious LOL.

Never too sure how involved Teddy was with "dangerous". Some tracks were apparantly just overhauls of demo's by Mike with Teddy's beats over them. But the "dangerous" demo is interesting to me though. The demo has a totally different feel, but even if all Teddy did in that case was add a beat, and make it more commercial, it worked. "Remember the time" was done from the ground up apparantly. "why you wanna trip on me" seemed to be obviously written with Mike in mind, and is one of my fav tracks to this day!

Anyway, maybe Teddy didn't have that Quincy like involvement, but since "bad", Mike knows the studio better then anyone, and again, Mike is always the main man, not the producer he is working with. He is very underestimated in the stuidio. Heck, he had a pretty good teacher mind you LOL. Even "you are not alone" had him producing with Kelly and not Kelly alone (Kelly is more then capable of working by himself). Mikes always involved somewhere LOL.

Mike probably has Streisand like insticts to what exact vocal take to use, how many background voices should be used on that bridge etc... he works the studio in unique ways.