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Reply #120 posted 02/21/09 10:15am

angel345

TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:


dude didn't have alot of real friends. Someone was telling me how that story of him walking around looking for someone to talk to was true. She worked at this store in Encino and she would see him walking around or riding his bike looking really lonely, but she said nobody would really interact with him because....you know.....he's Michael Jackson lol

and this was around Off The Wall and Thriller


Around THAT point in time, Michael's 2 remaining best friends were his sisters Latoya & Janet. But after Janet got married to her 1st husband (James DeBarge) and Latoya was kidnapped/mind-controlled by Jack Gordan, Michael was really alone.

In his book "Moonwalker" he also mentioned that Jermaine was like his rock so to speak until he got married and stayed with Motown. To this day, and strange enough, they're not close, anymore. Wow, the price of fame.
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Reply #121 posted 02/21/09 10:17am

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I think someone needs to calm down...calling MJ Jacko definitely has nothing to do with lynchings that went on back in the day. disbelief apples and oranges folks.
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Reply #122 posted 02/21/09 11:25am

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I think someone needs to calm down...calling MJ Jacko definitely has nothing to do with lynchings that went on back in the day. disbelief apples and oranges folks.


if a white society (the industry) took your name and changed it to humiliate you and others used it to identify you until you were publically immobilized what would you call it?

oh- and then they told you to calm down...
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Reply #123 posted 02/21/09 11:52am

angel345

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It's one thing if fans think outside the box, and of course knowing all the details points to his innocence, but do you think it's nice that someone who has done so much for music is being called horrible names that he couldn't help but have brought upon himself? I would also suggest you think outside the box: if you were accused once, would you still continue being so close and televise it or just back up after the first accusation?

Hmm, well.... if your stubborn, feel you did nothing wrong and got nothing to hide you probably don't back up...I mean, somehow he has to live his life for himself and not for a public image!

He is certainly not innocent in how everything evolved, but to blame everything on him is stupid too... there are many factors... and the media plays a big part in it!
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Reply #124 posted 02/21/09 12:04pm

angel345

PatrickS77 said:

alphastreet said:

It's one thing if fans think outside the box, and of course knowing all the details points to his innocence, but do you think it's nice that someone who has done so much for music is being called horrible names that he couldn't help but have brought upon himself? I would also suggest you think outside the box: if you were accused once, would you still continue being so close and televise it or just back up after the first accusation?

Hmm, well.... if your stubborn, feel you did nothing wrong and got nothing to hide you probably don't back up...I mean, somehow he has to live his life for himself and not for a public image!

He is certainly not innocent in how everything evolved, but to blame everything on him is stupid too... there are many factors... and the media plays a big part in it!

Exactly! You've took the words right out of my mouth. His stubborness got him into trouble and his celebrity friends including Chris Tucker warned him about being too hospitable to kids. It's all about using wisdom because society, especially the American society would take it to the gutter, even if nothing is going on. His own lawyer advised him that for now on, no more outside children in his home. Thank goodness he has three of his own.
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Reply #125 posted 02/21/09 12:41pm

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angel345 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Around THAT point in time, Michael's 2 remaining best friends were his sisters Latoya & Janet. But after Janet got married to her 1st husband (James DeBarge) and Latoya was kidnapped/mind-controlled by Jack Gordan, Michael was really alone.

In his book "Moonwalker" he also mentioned that Jermaine was like his rock so to speak until he got married and stayed with Motown. To this day, and strange enough, they're not close, anymore. Wow, the price of fame.
[Edited 2/21/09 10:21am]


And yet, Jermaine, Latoya, Randy, & Janet are the main 4 siblings that will defend Michael all the way to their graves concerning his character.
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Reply #126 posted 02/21/09 12:42pm

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Evvy said:

missfee said:

I think someone needs to calm down...calling MJ Jacko definitely has nothing to do with lynchings that went on back in the day. disbelief apples and oranges folks.


if a white society (the industry) took your name and changed it to humiliate you and others used it to identify you until you were publically immobilized what would you call it?

oh- and then they told you to calm down...
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I get what you're saying evvy when they call him jacko to me it's like they are calling him Nigger, you know like back in the day a black man wasn't considered human enough to be called by his name he was called nigger or boy. It's so disrepectful.
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Reply #127 posted 02/21/09 12:53pm

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This sure is a wacky thread, Effy.
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Reply #128 posted 02/21/09 12:56pm

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Oh lord y'all talkin about that Jacko up in here again. God help us all!!!!







lol lol lol
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Reply #129 posted 02/21/09 12:57pm

cdcgold

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mad

I knew someone would beat me to the doves!!!

mad


I'm serious here: Tell Michael to release some good, new music to shut up his music critics.

That should solve it.

Well, except for his fascination with little boys.

And, claiming to be Peter Pan offstage and being sexual onstage.

And, trying to pass off white kids as his own biological progeny.

And, well, lying about the degree of plastic surgery he's had.

Wait -- why don't we just call him Wacko Jacko and call it even?



I'm sick of people and the little boys crap, if you knew anything you would know girls slept in his room too ( by the way his room is two stories). Mccauly culkins sister slept in his room, nicole ritchie said she slept in his room, during the trial it was made known one of his friends little sister slept in his room along with the guys, it's not just little boys and just because they slept in his room doean't mean they slept in his bed, he only said in that interview that macculy culkin and his siblings INCLUDING HIS SISTER actually slept in his bed with him. and Macculy testified that his father would come in the room early in the morning to wake them up and go play so it wasn't like it was done in secret.




I'm sick of people only blaming him for the plastic surgery. How about blaming his father as well, why is it you people never bring up the fact that Joe jackson called him ugly and big nose all through his teen aged years. why do you think he thought he was ugly, teenagers are already insecure about the way they look and for a kid to have their own parent called them ugly, it's traumatizing. people just write his surgeries off as "he wants to be white" thats not the case. It a psychological FACT: If you tell a person (black or white) that they are ugly over and over again eventually they will start to believe it.

it's called brain washing and once a person has had something like that drilled into their head its almost impossible to get it out.


It has nothing to do with him wanting to be white it has to do with the fact that he wants to get rid of the feature that his father tortured him about


oh and you don't know if those are his kids or not you might be surprised when they have grown up
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Reply #130 posted 02/21/09 1:06pm

cdcgold

way to go evvy now all these prince koolaid will call him wacko jacko on purpose, because they are so pathetic
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Reply #131 posted 02/21/09 1:07pm

VoicesCarry

Wow, some people clearly have no worries of their own in life.
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Reply #132 posted 02/21/09 1:47pm

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purplecam said:

Oh lord y'all talkin about that Jacko up in here again. God help us all!!!!







lol lol lol
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That's not cool at all. disbelief
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Reply #133 posted 02/21/09 2:12pm

angel345

cdcgold said:

I'm sick of people only blaming him for the plastic surgery. How about blaming his father as well, why is it you people never bring up the fact that Joe jackson called him ugly and big nose all through his teen aged years. why do you think he thought he was ugly, teenagers are already insecure about the way they look and for a kid to have their own parent called them ugly, it's traumatizing. people just write his surgeries off as "he wants to be white" thats not the case. It a psychological FACT: If you tell a person (black or white) that they are ugly over and over again eventually they will start to believe it.


It's a shame that it's come to this: lack of self-esteem. Up to this day, look how many women and girls of different ages and races want to marry him and have his babies. He's always been incredibly handsome, but you couldn't tell him that.
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Reply #134 posted 02/21/09 2:15pm

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angel345 said:

cdcgold said:

I'm sick of people only blaming him for the plastic surgery. How about blaming his father as well, why is it you people never bring up the fact that Joe jackson called him ugly and big nose all through his teen aged years. why do you think he thought he was ugly, teenagers are already insecure about the way they look and for a kid to have their own parent called them ugly, it's traumatizing. people just write his surgeries off as "he wants to be white" thats not the case. It a psychological FACT: If you tell a person (black or white) that they are ugly over and over again eventually they will start to believe it.


It's a shame that it's come to this: lack of self-esteem. Up to this day, look how many women and girls of different ages and races want to marry him and have his babies. He's always been incredibly handsome, but you couldn't tell him that.



Cause he's an adult now and should if he had issues gotten help, not gone all peter pan. There comes a point when a person, no matter what the abuse or issues of their childhood, needs to get over it.
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Reply #135 posted 02/21/09 2:28pm

cdcgold

angel345 said:

cdcgold said:

I'm sick of people only blaming him for the plastic surgery. How about blaming his father as well, why is it you people never bring up the fact that Joe jackson called him ugly and big nose all through his teen aged years. why do you think he thought he was ugly, teenagers are already insecure about the way they look and for a kid to have their own parent called them ugly, it's traumatizing. people just write his surgeries off as "he wants to be white" thats not the case. It a psychological FACT: If you tell a person (black or white) that they are ugly over and over again eventually they will start to believe it.


It's a shame that it's come to this: lack of self-esteem. Up to this day, look how many women and girls of different ages and races want to marry him and have his babies. He's always been incredibly handsome, but you couldn't tell him that.


nobody did tell him that, his family 's opinion probably mattered alot more than crazy fans who didn't even know him. He lived with joseph up until he was like 28 i bet joe made comments about his appearance the whole time. I read somewhere that he's even had problems with his weight cause joe would tell him he was getting fat. By the time he left home the public and the media picked up where joe left off calling him ugly
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Reply #136 posted 02/21/09 2:30pm

cdcgold

lazycrockett said:

angel345 said:

cdcgold said:

I'm sick of people only blaming him for the plastic surgery. How about blaming his father as well, why is it you people never bring up the fact that Joe jackson called him ugly and big nose all through his teen aged years. why do you think he thought he was ugly, teenagers are already insecure about the way they look and for a kid to have their own parent called them ugly, it's traumatizing. people just write his surgeries off as "he wants to be white" thats not the case. It a psychological FACT: If you tell a person (black or white) that they are ugly over and over again eventually they will start to believe it.


It's a shame that it's come to this: lack of self-esteem. Up to this day, look how many women and girls of different ages and races want to marry him and have his babies. He's always been incredibly handsome, but you couldn't tell him that.





Cause he's an adult now and should if he had issues gotten help, not gone all peter pan. There comes a point when a person, no matter what the abuse or issues of their childhood, needs to get over it.



he probably has gotten over it by now. He got rid of neverland didn't he, thats a start. maybe it's a little late but at least he may be starting to get it that he needs to grow up, besides whens the last time you saw with with children without his own kids being there.
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Reply #137 posted 02/21/09 3:05pm

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cdcgold said:

lazycrockett said:






Cause he's an adult now and should if he had issues gotten help, not gone all peter pan. There comes a point when a person, no matter what the abuse or issues of their childhood, needs to get over it.



he probably has gotten over it by now. He got rid of neverland didn't he, thats a start. maybe it's a little late but at least he may be starting to get it that he needs to grow up, besides whens the last time you saw with with children without his own kids being there.


The articles I read about his losing Neverland left me with a different impression...
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Reply #138 posted 02/21/09 3:48pm

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that is so demeaning to me- I hate to even see it..Folk need to quit that mess-

somehow when I see his name shorten like that, lynchings come to mind. I think of how black men were lynched and their private parts were cut off and stuffed into their mouths- and then they were burned alive.

I can't think of another famous person who has been so lynched by the media- deservedly or not- to the point where they have degradated (sp) the only thing he truly has- [b]his name[/b.

his name is Michael Joseph Jackson- think about who started the Jacko mess and ask yourself if you wanna be associated with characters like that.



Please seek therapy, or request that Jesus, Buddha, Alah, the Goddess or the Divine or whatever you believe in to please take the wheel




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Reply #139 posted 02/21/09 5:36pm

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To The Original Poster: Are you fucking serious? neutral
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Reply #140 posted 02/21/09 6:52pm

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To The Original Poster: Are you fucking serious? neutral

Get yo ass in the wrestling thread and contribute! lol
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Reply #141 posted 02/21/09 8:01pm

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that is so demeaning to me- I hate to even see it..Folk need to quit that mess-

somehow when I see his name shorten like that, lynchings come to mind. I think of how black men were lynched and their private parts were cut off and stuffed into their mouths- and then they were burned alive.

I can't think of another famous person who has been so lynched by the media- deservedly or not- to the point where they have degradated (sp) the only thing he truly has- [b]his name[/b.

his name is Michael Joseph Jackson- think about who started the Jacko mess and ask yourself if you wanna be associated with characters like that.


Wow! Comparing sensationalism to the black men lynchings is totally bizarre and out of place (and a little bit creepy). With all due respect Evvy I think you need to go to teraphy, your not thinking right. Totally MJ fan syndrome.

I don't care what the media say about Prince or any of the artist I admire, good or bad who care's.

Sanity is a very important thing for human beigns.
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Reply #142 posted 02/21/09 8:16pm

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aarontj said:

Evvy said:

that is so demeaning to me- I hate to even see it..Folk need to quit that mess-

somehow when I see his name shorten like that, lynchings come to mind. I think of how black men were lynched and their private parts were cut off and stuffed into their mouths- and then they were burned alive.

I can't think of another famous person who has been so lynched by the media- deservedly or not- to the point where they have degradated (sp) the only thing he truly has- his name[/b.

his name is Michael Joseph Jackson- think about who started the Jacko mess and ask yourself if you wanna be associated with characters like that.


Wow! [b]Comparing sensationalism to the black men lynchings is totally bizarre and out of place
(and a little bit creepy). With all due respect Evvy I think you need to go to teraphy, your not thinking right. Totally MJ fan syndrome.

I don't care what the media say about Prince or any of the artist I admire, good or bad who care's.

Sanity is a very important thing for human beigns.


Happens everyday in P&R.


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Reply #143 posted 02/21/09 8:39pm

Vendetta1

NO GROWN ASS MAN SHOULD HAVE LITTLE KIDS, GIRLS OR BOYS, SLEEPING IN THEIR BEDROOM!!!

What the fuck was wrong with him and what the fuck was wrong with those kids' parents?
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Reply #144 posted 02/21/09 8:44pm

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NO GROWN ASS MAN SHOULD HAVE LITTLE KIDS, GIRLS OR BOYS, SLEEPING IN THEIR BEDROOM!!!

What the fuck was wrong with him and what the fuck was wrong with those kids' parents?

They were all in the wrong for that shit.
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Reply #145 posted 02/21/09 8:45pm

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purplecam said:

Vendetta1 said:

NO GROWN ASS MAN SHOULD HAVE LITTLE KIDS, GIRLS OR BOYS, SLEEPING IN THEIR BEDROOM!!!

What the fuck was wrong with him and what the fuck was wrong with those kids' parents?

They were all in the wrong for that shit.
I have no idea why people try to justify this shit.
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Reply #146 posted 02/21/09 8:48pm

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purplecam said:


They were all in the wrong for that shit.
I have no idea why people try to justify this shit.

Me either but that's what happens around here. nod
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Reply #147 posted 02/21/09 8:49pm

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purplecam said:


They were all in the wrong for that shit.
I have no idea why people try to justify this shit.



Cause he gave an interview saying it was okay. So the idiots that love him so think that its suddenly okay .

Once again I introduce you

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Reply #148 posted 02/21/09 8:50pm

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Vendetta1 said:

I have no idea why people try to justify this shit.



Cause he gave an interview saying it was okay. So the idiots that love him so think that its suddenly okay .

Once again I introduce you

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Reply #149 posted 02/21/09 8:51pm

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I was in the eleventh grade during that time and that was the very first time that I noticed he was a loony toon. The second time was when I bought the videotape of "Moonwalker" a few years later and saw him running around in the grass playing with those kids. It wasn't like a father or uncle playing with them. It was like he was one of the kids himself. Actually, the whole damn tape was of him running around with kids as if they were his best friends.


Which to this day I still find disturbing.


You're just a hater.
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