alphastreet said: *chris crocker voice*
LEAVE MICHAEL ALONEEEE!! *cries* :p don't call him wacko jacko, he told barbara walters that's not nice....LEAVE HER ALOOOOONE PLEEEEASE you're lucky he performed for you bastards! (in bed) | |
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^ perfect! | |
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vainandy said: poeticrockstar said:
First of all, the issue with Emmanuel Lewis from back in the day. You had Emmanuel's grown ass chilling with Michael and being carried around like a baby and nobody saw something wrong with that? I was only 9 at the time and even then, a red flag went up for me! I was in the eleventh grade during that time and that was the very first time that I noticed he was a loony toon. The second time was when I bought the videotape of "Moonwalker" a few years later and saw him running around in the grass playing with those kids. It wasn't like a father or uncle playing with them. It was like he was one of the kids himself. Actually, the whole damn tape was of him running around with kids as if they were his best friends. Which to this day I still find disturbing. | |
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were people making fun of him and kids in the 80's or did everyone see him as this sweet gentle guy? Cause I saw him as so sweet for that as a kid and everything, but now it disturbs me so much even if he's innocent, it's no longer cute after all the shit it got him through, and that was the hard part about accepting it. | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: I was in the eleventh grade during that time and that was the very first time that I noticed he was a loony toon. The second time was when I bought the videotape of "Moonwalker" a few years later and saw him running around in the grass playing with those kids. It wasn't like a father or uncle playing with them. It was like he was one of the kids himself. Actually, the whole damn tape was of him running around with kids as if they were his best friends. But that was like a full hour, lol. The other two hours was the Smooth Criminal video. To be honest, I do skip that part where he has that long drawn out scene of him and the kids playing and then walking towards Mr. Big's drug store or whatever it was, lol. The long version of that Smooth Criminal was even more rediculous than him running around with those kids. I mean, he turned himself into a race car and then a robot that flys off like a spaceship. How childish. The TV version of the video of him in the 1920s style nightclub was cool but that long version with all that "Transformers" type shit looked like something a nine year old would have dreamed up. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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alphastreet said: were people making fun of him and kids in the 80's or did everyone see him as this sweet gentle guy? Cause I saw him as so sweet for that as a kid and everything, but now it disturbs me so much even if he's innocent, it's no longer cute after all the shit it got him through, and that was the hard part about accepting it.
I don't know how everybody saw it but some thought MJ was peculiar back then, lol. | |
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vainandy said: The long version of that Smooth Criminal was even more rediculous than him running around with those kids. I mean, he turned himself into a race car and then a robot that flys off like a spaceship. How childish. The TV version of the video of him in the 1920s style nightclub was cool but that long version with all that "Transformers" type shit looked like something a nine year old would have dreamed up. Yeah it was all too fucking much. The video to "Smooth Criminal" remains one of the coolest videos ever tho. | |
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vainandy said: The long version of that Smooth Criminal was even more rediculous than him running around with those kids. I mean, he turned himself into a race car and then a robot that flys off like a spaceship. How childish. The TV version of the video of him in the 1920s style nightclub was cool but that long version with all that "Transformers" type shit looked like something a nine year old would have dreamed up. but he is 9 years old hahah he never grows up remember I can't believe I used to love all the peter pan crap, up until the bashir interview that is. After that it became a joke and then fucked up his life for good. Mofo should have just continued to do music and he wouldn't be in a mess with a stained reputation. He was supposed to continue releasing music and go on tour and I was going to go see him and he would have kicked ass, even if it wasn't Thriller again, but he pushed all that aside for baby dangling and the fucking interview without promoting music and fucked up his life! And though I still love his music and play it, he is just so fucked up and yet I love him, ughhhh | |
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I do have the game with most of the scenes from the movie. However I have to say the arcade version of "Moonwalker" was much more cooler than the Genesis version I got. | |
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alphastreet said: were people making fun of him and kids in the 80's or did everyone see him as this sweet gentle guy? Cause I saw him as so sweet for that as a kid and everything, but now it disturbs me so much even if he's innocent, it's no longer cute after all the shit it got him through, and that was the hard part about accepting it. Before the Webster incident at the awards show, everyone thought he was cool as hell. A little feminine but cool as hell. When he showed up with both Webster and Brooke Shields at the awards, a lot of people made fun of him for that (myself included). Hell, some of us even thought he was gay but showed up with Webster so he could get out of fucking Brooke later. After that "Moonwalker" video in the late 80s, some of us who actually saw it (a lot of people didn't see it because it was a videotape you had to buy) thought he was just crazy as hell or fucked up in the head running around thinking he was a child. I mean, how uncool is that. We didn't suspect that he was molesting the children, we just thought he was crazy as hell. However, in the 1990s when he started hanging out with nothing but kids and never a trace of a girlfriend or even a grown male lover, a lot of folks weren't shocked when the molestation charges came out and have no problem believing that he did it. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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just wanted to say...
Jacko is Whacko [Edited 2/20/09 20:09pm] | |
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vainandy said: The long version of that Smooth Criminal was even more rediculous than him running around with those kids. I mean, he turned himself into a race car and then a robot that flys off like a spaceship. How childish. The TV version of the video of him in the 1920s style nightclub was cool but that long version with all that "Transformers" type shit looked like something a nine year old would have dreamed up. I love the whole video! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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alphastreet said: vainandy said: The long version of that Smooth Criminal was even more rediculous than him running around with those kids. I mean, he turned himself into a race car and then a robot that flys off like a spaceship. How childish. The TV version of the video of him in the 1920s style nightclub was cool but that long version with all that "Transformers" type shit looked like something a nine year old would have dreamed up. but he is 9 years old hahah he never grows up remember I can't believe I used to love all the peter pan crap, up until the bashir interview that is. After that it became a joke and then fucked up his life for good. Mofo should have just continued to do music and he wouldn't be in a mess with a stained reputation. He was supposed to continue releasing music and go on tour and I was going to go see him and he would have kicked ass, even if it wasn't Thriller again, but he pushed all that aside for baby dangling and the fucking interview without promoting music and fucked up his life! And though I still love his music and play it, he is just so fucked up and yet I love him, ughhhh agreed he should have grown up in the 90's but you can at least let him have the kiddie behavior from the 80's i mean really he spent all his real kid years working, i think he did deserve some childhood experiences | |
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vainandy said: Before the Webster incident at the awards show, everyone thought he was cool as hell. A little feminine but cool as hell. When he showed up with both Webster and Brooke Shields at the awards, a lot of people made fun of him for that (myself included). Hell, some of us even thought he was gay but showed up with Webster so he could get out of fucking Brooke later. After that "Moonwalker" video in the late 80s, some of us who actually saw it (a lot of people didn't see it because it was a videotape you had to buy) thought he was just crazy as hell or fucked up in the head running around thinking he was a child. I mean, how uncool is that. We didn't suspect that he was molesting the children, we just thought he was crazy as hell. However, in the 1990s when he started hanging out with nothing but kids and never a trace of a girlfriend or even a grown male lover, a lot of folks weren't shocked when the molestation charges came out and have no problem believing that he did it. I'm torn on the issue ,he should not have been hanging out with kids so much but it's so sad because he didn't get to be a kid and when he had the chance to it was too late, those years were taken from him and he can never get them back | |
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he had his own damn kids to do that with and he had to do a stupid ass interview to prove he is not weird at a time when no one gave a damn about him? Just coming out of nowhere like that, minus the music? | |
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cdcgold said: vainandy said: Before the Webster incident at the awards show, everyone thought he was cool as hell. A little feminine but cool as hell. When he showed up with both Webster and Brooke Shields at the awards, a lot of people made fun of him for that (myself included). Hell, some of us even thought he was gay but showed up with Webster so he could get out of fucking Brooke later. After that "Moonwalker" video in the late 80s, some of us who actually saw it (a lot of people didn't see it because it was a videotape you had to buy) thought he was just crazy as hell or fucked up in the head running around thinking he was a child. I mean, how uncool is that. We didn't suspect that he was molesting the children, we just thought he was crazy as hell. However, in the 1990s when he started hanging out with nothing but kids and never a trace of a girlfriend or even a grown male lover, a lot of folks weren't shocked when the molestation charges came out and have no problem believing that he did it. I'm torn on the issue ,he should not have been hanging out with kids so much but it's so sad because he didn't get to be a kid and when he had the chance to it was too late, those years were taken from him and he can never get them back yeah it's unfortunate and it's good he had fun, but he couldn't do it forever | |
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Jacko is Whacko! | |
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cdcgold said: vainandy said: Before the Webster incident at the awards show, everyone thought he was cool as hell. A little feminine but cool as hell. When he showed up with both Webster and Brooke Shields at the awards, a lot of people made fun of him for that (myself included). Hell, some of us even thought he was gay but showed up with Webster so he could get out of fucking Brooke later. After that "Moonwalker" video in the late 80s, some of us who actually saw it (a lot of people didn't see it because it was a videotape you had to buy) thought he was just crazy as hell or fucked up in the head running around thinking he was a child. I mean, how uncool is that. We didn't suspect that he was molesting the children, we just thought he was crazy as hell. However, in the 1990s when he started hanging out with nothing but kids and never a trace of a girlfriend or even a grown male lover, a lot of folks weren't shocked when the molestation charges came out and have no problem believing that he did it. I'm torn on the issue ,he should not have been hanging out with kids so much but it's so sad because he didn't get to be a kid and when he had the chance to it was too late, those years were taken from him and he can never get them back Considering that he didn't have a childhood, I could see him hanging out with teenage kids around the "Thriller" era because he would have been in his mid 20s and a lot of males are still immature until their late 20s and act like teenagers themselves. It would have looked strange as hell but still would have been halfway understandable. But these kids weren't even teens yet and a man in his mid 20s that acts like he's 9 years old is ready for the Funny Farm. And then he got in his 30s and was still running around with pre-teens. When he got in his 40s, at least he seemed to have graduated to teenagers. But a man in his 40s running around with teenagers looks even more messed up than a younger man running around with pre teens. And when he reached those 30s and 40s, it definately made him look like a child molester because damn, just how long does he want his childhood to last? He's been a child for over 20 years. Even the little kiddies that he used to play with in the 1980s are all grown up and more mature than he is. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Considering that he didn't have a childhood, I could see him hanging out with teenage kids around the "Thriller" era because he would have been in his mid 20s and a lot of males are still immature until their late 20s and act like teenagers themselves. It would have looked strange as hell but still would have been halfway understandable. But these kids weren't even teens yet and a man in his mid 20s that acts like he's 9 years old is ready for the Funny Farm. And then he got in his 30s and was still running around with pre-teens. When he got in his 40s, at least he seemed to have graduated to teenagers. But a man in his 40s running around with teenagers looks even more messed up than a younger man running around with pre teens. And when he reached those 30s and 40s, it definately made him look like a child molester because damn, just how long does he want his childhood to last? He's been a child for over 20 years. Even the little kiddies that he used to play with in the 1980s are all grown up and more mature than he is. dude didn't have alot of real friends. Someone was telling me how that story of him walking around looking for someone to talk to was true. She worked at this store in Encino and she would see him walking around or riding his bike looking really lonely, but she said nobody would really interact with him because....you know.....he's Michael Jackson and this was around Off The Wall and Thriller "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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i went to slep- got up to pee and saw what y'all did to my damn thread
imma start a ass whoopin roll call- listen fo you name!!!!! LOVE HARD. | |
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bboy87 said: vainandy said: Considering that he didn't have a childhood, I could see him hanging out with teenage kids around the "Thriller" era because he would have been in his mid 20s and a lot of males are still immature until their late 20s and act like teenagers themselves. It would have looked strange as hell but still would have been halfway understandable. But these kids weren't even teens yet and a man in his mid 20s that acts like he's 9 years old is ready for the Funny Farm. And then he got in his 30s and was still running around with pre-teens. When he got in his 40s, at least he seemed to have graduated to teenagers. But a man in his 40s running around with teenagers looks even more messed up than a younger man running around with pre teens. And when he reached those 30s and 40s, it definately made him look like a child molester because damn, just how long does he want his childhood to last? He's been a child for over 20 years. Even the little kiddies that he used to play with in the 1980s are all grown up and more mature than he is. dude didn't have alot of real friends. Someone was telling me how that story of him walking around looking for someone to talk to was true. She worked at this store in Encino and she would see him walking around or riding his bike looking really lonely, but she said nobody would really interact with him because....you know.....he's Michael Jackson and this was around Off The Wall and Thriller Yeah, I heard about that. | |
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vainandy said: Considering that he didn't have a childhood, I could see him hanging out with teenage kids around the "Thriller" era because he would have been in his mid 20s and a lot of males are still immature until their late 20s and act like teenagers themselves. It would have looked strange as hell but still would have been halfway understandable. But these kids weren't even teens yet and a man in his mid 20s that acts like he's 9 years old is ready for the Funny Farm. And then he got in his 30s and was still running around with pre-teens. When he got in his 40s, at least he seemed to have graduated to teenagers. But a man in his 40s running around with teenagers looks even more messed up than a younger man running around with pre teens. Okay, this is when he went from being cute to creepy for me. There's nothing hot about a guy who hangs out with little kids or when you do go out he brings kids along and they're not even his. And when he reached those 30s and 40s, it definately made him look like a child molester because damn, just how long does he want his childhood to last? He's been a child for over 20 years. Even the little kiddies that he used to play with in the 1980s are all grown up and more mature than he is.
This is what I used to wonder. Sure you try to recapture your youth but after awhile it's time to move on. You accept what you missed or lost and adapt. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Evvy said: that is so demeaning to me- I hate to even see it..Folk need to quit that mess-
I understand. I've never liked it either. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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I knew someone would beat me to the doves!!! I'm serious here: Tell Michael to release some good, new music to shut up his music critics. That should solve it. Well, except for his fascination with little boys. And, claiming to be Peter Pan offstage and being sexual onstage. And, trying to pass off white kids as his own biological progeny. And, well, lying about the degree of plastic surgery he's had. Wait -- why don't we just call him Wacko Jacko and call it even? | |
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Settle down, have some dip.
There are some legitimate complaints about the way the media and the public regard MJ, but for God's sake, a nickname is NOT one of them. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Whenever folks say "Jacko," I always think of this guy:
FYI: He was a football player who, as you can see, used to advertise Energizer batteries in the '80s and '90s. Also, he had a few hits singles back in the day, which I'm not gonna torture you all with right now! | |
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lol @ "I'm serious here" | |
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Evvy said: that is so demeaning to me- I hate to even see it..Folk need to quit that mess-
somehow when I see his name shorten like that, lynchings come to mind. I think of how black men were lynched and their private parts were cut off and stuffed into their mouths- and then they were burned alive. I can't think of another famous person who has been so lynched by the media- deservedly or not- to the point where they have degradated (sp) the only thing he truly has- [b]his name[/b. his name is Michael Joseph Jackson- think about who started the Jacko mess and ask yourself if you wanna be associated with characters like that. | |
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putting out music and most importantly, touring WILL help his image, but he doesn't seem to get it. | |
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Even if you didn't have a childhood, doesn't mean as an adult you can relive it in all its innocent glory. An adult can only pretend to be a child cause unless hes mentally lacking the brain doesn't function that way. As a child the brain is growing and experiencing that's the whole "wonder" comes into play.
An adult brain is already matured, it doesn't change or create new pathways. So this whole "never had a childhood" is bullshit excuse for him sleeping with lil boys. The man is a loon and only one group of people are worse than him..... The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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