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Printableshorttrini said: IAintTheOne said: im smellin some network shit about nah'  I know...go for it!! we'll talk further now that we got the connection and know how deep it is.. yeah | |
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NDRU said: this guy
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THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!! 
Damn I love these old musicals "Knowledge is preferable to ignorance. Better by far to embrace the hard truth than a reassuring faith. If we crave some cosmic purpose, then let us find ourselves a worthy goal" - Carl Sagan | |
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| @ white people trying to claim hip-hop now.
Blondie isn't a f*cking rapper. Just because someone rhymes in a song, it doesn't make them a rapper. Prince has rap verses in songs but nobody with an ounce of common sense would compare him to say...Common Sense. Like so many threads on the org, this has turned into a farce. Hell, I could dig up old clips of Bob Hope rhyming but he wasn't a rapper. I thought somebody was going to bring up artists like Tarrie B (before she went metal). Y'all sittin' here talking like brothas in the Bronx were sitting up watching "The Music Man" and imitating that mess. GTFOH. It would have made more sense to bring up Malcolm Mclaren's Buffalo Gals. At least it could be called early hip-hop. And STOP bringing up Teena's name. Teena was not a rapper. 
Teena was and is a complete artist: Singer, songwriter and musician. Yeah she spit a verse or two here and there but if anything, she was more of a poetess. The term "rapper" came about through hip-hop culture, so if it predates hip-hop, that person is not a RAPPER. Stick to the era. Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass, and yes, even Vanilla Ice and Markie Mark are RAPPERS. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: @ white people trying to claim hip-hop now.
Blondie isn't a f*cking rapper. Just because someone rhymes in a song, it doesn't make them a rapper. Prince has rap verses in songs but nobody with an ounce of common sense would compare him to say...Common Sense. Like so many threads on the org, this has turned into a farce. Hell, I could dig up old clips of Bob Hope rhyming but he wasn't a rapper. I thought somebody was going to bring up artists like Tarrie B (before she went metal). Y'all sittin' here talking like brothas in the Bronx were sitting up watching "The Music Man" and imitating that mess. GTFOH. It would have made more sense to bring up Malcolm Mclaren's Buffalo Gals. At least it could be called early hip-hop. And STOP bringing up Teena's name. Teena was not a rapper.
Teena was and is a complete artist: Singer, songwriter and musician. Yeah she spit a verse or two here and there but if anything, she was more of a poetess. The term "rapper" came about through hip-hop culture, so if it predates hip-hop, that person is not a RAPPER. Stick to the era. Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass, and yes, even Vanilla Ice and Markie Mark are RAPPERS. Vanilla Ice? Vanilla Ice? Go to your room now or do what Jay's Jesus said. | |
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abierman said: Blondie - Rapture 1981 WORD!!!!! | |
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BlaqueKnight said: @ white people trying to claim hip-hop now.
Blondie isn't a f*cking rapper. Just because someone rhymes in a song, it doesn't make them a rapper. Prince has rap verses in songs but nobody with an ounce of common sense would compare him to say...Common Sense. Like so many threads on the org, this has turned into a farce. Hell, I could dig up old clips of Bob Hope rhyming but he wasn't a rapper. I thought somebody was going to bring up artists like Tarrie B (before she went metal). Y'all sittin' here talking like brothas in the Bronx were sitting up watching "The Music Man" and imitating that mess. GTFOH. It would have made more sense to bring up Malcolm Mclaren's Buffalo Gals. At least it could be called early hip-hop. And STOP bringing up Teena's name. Teena was not a rapper.
Teena was and is a complete artist: Singer, songwriter and musician. Yeah she spit a verse or two here and there but if anything, she was more of a poetess. The term "rapper" came about through hip-hop culture, so if it predates hip-hop, that person is not a RAPPER. Stick to the era. Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass, and yes, even Vanilla Ice and Markie Mark are RAPPERS. calm down! nobody is claiming anything. it's a conversation, they evolve. you don't like that? fine. i don't see a problem here really.
Oh, and Tarrie B was mentioned early in the thread.  |
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BlaqueKnight said: @ white people trying to claim hip-hop now.
Blondie isn't a f*cking rapper. Just because someone rhymes in a song, it doesn't make them a rapper. Prince has rap verses in songs but nobody with an ounce of common sense would compare him to say...Common Sense. Like so many threads on the org, this has turned into a farce. Hell, I could dig up old clips of Bob Hope rhyming but he wasn't a rapper. I thought somebody was going to bring up artists like Tarrie B (before she went metal). Y'all sittin' here talking like brothas in the Bronx were sitting up watching "The Music Man" and imitating that mess. GTFOH. It would have made more sense to bring up Malcolm Mclaren's Buffalo Gals. At least it could be called early hip-hop. And STOP bringing up Teena's name. Teena was not a rapper.
Teena was and is a complete artist: Singer, songwriter and musician. Yeah she spit a verse or two here and there but if anything, she was more of a poetess. The term "rapper" came about through hip-hop culture, so if it predates hip-hop, that person is not a RAPPER. Stick to the era. Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass, and yes, even Vanilla Ice and Markie Mark are RAPPERS. 1)VANILLA ICE IS A FUCKING JOKE, NOT A RAPPER!!!!! 2)DEBBIE HARRY WAS THE FIRST WHITE WOMAN TO EMBRACE THE CULTURE AS A WHOLE, AND NOT JUST SPIT A VERSE. SO SHE GETS PROPS AS THE FIRST FEMALE WHITE RAPPER. BLONDIE WAS THE GROUP SHE WAS IN!!!!! 3)IT'S JUST HEALTHY DISCUSSION.....U SOUND ANGRY!!!!!
4)BEASTIES & 3RD BASS ARE GROUPS. IN THE TRIAD OF VANILLA ICE/MARKY MARK/EVERLAST, I'D GIVE THE PROPS TO EVERLAST. HE WAS DOWN WITH ICE-T'S RHYME SYNDICATE B4 HOUSE OF PAIN & ALL THAT WHITEY FORD SH*T..... PEACE!!!!! [Edited 2/19/09 5:15am] | |
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I'm with Blaqueknight on this one!!!
Sure Debbie Harry & Teena Marie spit verses they were not MC's they were singers experimenting and mixing the genres...Tairrie B. would be the first legitamte white female rapper...she was backed by Schoolly D. and N.W.A. as far as the fellas The Beastie Boys goes without saying! I am not African. Africa is in me, but I cannot return.
I am not taína. Taíno is in me, but there is no way back. I am not european. Europe lives in me, but I have no home there. I am new. History made me. My first language was spanglish. And I am | |
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But the dopest white rappers...:
Fuck Eminem! These cats had the real steelo! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
MuthaFunka - Black...by popular demand | |
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boriquateddy said: I'm with Blaqueknight on this one!!!
Sure Debbie Harry & Teena Marie spit verses they were not MC's they were singers experimenting and mixing the genres...Tairrie B. would be the first legitamte white female rapper...she was backed by Schoolly D. and N.W.A. as far as the fellas The Beastie Boys goes without saying! I knew someone who actually knows something about hip-hop would show up. Thank you Boriquateddy. Tell em' what's up! And for the record, I never said Vanilla Ice was any good, I just said he was a rapper. Debra Harry WAS NOT. Stop trying to re-write history with that mess. I was there. Y'all can't tell me shit. Nobody in hip-hop in the early 80s was checkin' for Blondie. It was NOT hip-hop, it was considered disco. Quit with the lies. Teena was an established R&B artist when she put out "Square Biz", she was NOT an emcee. Back then, it was the "thing to do" every now and then for an R&B artist to throw in a rap verse here or there. I swear, people just make up shit these days and call it fact. | |
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woogiebear said: BlaqueKnight said: @ white people trying to claim hip-hop now.
Blondie isn't a f*cking rapper. Just because someone rhymes in a song, it doesn't make them a rapper. Prince has rap verses in songs but nobody with an ounce of common sense would compare him to say...Common Sense. Like so many threads on the org, this has turned into a farce. Hell, I could dig up old clips of Bob Hope rhyming but he wasn't a rapper. I thought somebody was going to bring up artists like Tarrie B (before she went metal). Y'all sittin' here talking like brothas in the Bronx were sitting up watching "The Music Man" and imitating that mess. GTFOH. It would have made more sense to bring up Malcolm Mclaren's Buffalo Gals. At least it could be called early hip-hop. And STOP bringing up Teena's name. Teena was not a rapper.
Teena was and is a complete artist: Singer, songwriter and musician. Yeah she spit a verse or two here and there but if anything, she was more of a poetess. The term "rapper" came about through hip-hop culture, so if it predates hip-hop, that person is not a RAPPER. Stick to the era. Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass, and yes, even Vanilla Ice and Markie Mark are RAPPERS. 1)VANILLA ICE IS A FUCKING JOKE, NOT A RAPPER!!!!! 2)DEBBIE HARRY WAS THE FIRST WHITE WOMAN TO EMBRACE THE CULTURE AS A WHOLE, AND NOT JUST SPIT A VERSE. SO SHE GETS PROPS AS THE FIRST FEMALE WHITE RAPPER. BLONDIE WAS THE GROUP SHE WAS IN!!!!! 3)IT'S JUST HEALTHY DISCUSSION.....U SOUND ANGRY!!!!!
4)BEASTIES & 3RD BASS ARE GROUPS. IN THE TRIAD OF VANILLA ICE/MARKY MARK/EVERLAST, I'D GIVE THE PROPS TO EVERLAST. HE WAS DOWN WITH ICE-T'S RHYME SYNDICATE B4 HOUSE OF PAIN & ALL THAT WHITEY FORD SH*T..... PEACE!!!!!
[Edited 2/19/09 5:15am]  | |
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BlaqueKnight said: boriquateddy said: I'm with Blaqueknight on this one!!!
Sure Debbie Harry & Teena Marie spit verses they were not MC's they were singers experimenting and mixing the genres...Tairrie B. would be the first legitamte white female rapper...she was backed by Schoolly D. and N.W.A. as far as the fellas The Beastie Boys goes without saying! I knew someone who actually knows something about hip-hop would show up. Thank you Boriquateddy. Tell em' what's up! And for the record, I never said Vanilla Ice was any good, I just said he was a rapper. Debra Harry WAS NOT. Stop trying to re-write history with that mess. I was there. Y'all can't tell me shit. Nobody in hip-hop in the early 80s was checkin' for Blondie. It was NOT hip-hop, it was considered disco. Quit with the lies. Teena was an established R&B artist when she put out "Square Biz", she was NOT an emcee. Back then, it was the "thing to do" every now and then for an R&B artist to throw in a rap verse here or there. I swear, people just make up shit these days and call it fact. "All the good rappers dead, Biggie dead, Tupac dead, Vanilla Ice still alive!" - Chris Rock  | |
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TEENA MARIE WAS THE VERY FIRST WHITE-FEMALE-RAPPER--HANDS DOWN. 
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RosesRred said: Teena was...
So you must then also say that that Lovergirl and Square Biz were hip-hop tracks, right? You guys are nuts. This thread is wack. | |
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BlaqueKnight said: RosesRred said: Teena was...
So you must then also say that that Lovergirl and Square Biz were hip-hop tracks, right? You guys are nuts. This thread is wack. The thread was a joke in the first place. I thought it was "serious" too until Markk began reminding me, that's when every other post has been what it is. Just leave it alone, lol. I'll do the same. | |
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Timmy84 said: BlaqueKnight said: So you must then also say that that Lovergirl and Square Biz were hip-hop tracks, right? You guys are nuts. This thread is wack. The thread was a joke in the first place. I thought it was "serious" too until Markk began reminding me, that's when every other post has been what it is. Just leave it alone, lol. I'll do the same. the thread title is misleading as it asks who is the first "rapper" But what he's really asking is which white artists first rapped. Adam Ant and & Blondie aren't rappers, but they are rapping, embracing the new art form. Not like Charlie Daniels or my clip from The Music Man who is just speaking rhymes--similar to rap (or maybe even identical you might argue) but not intended as an embrace of rap music/style. My Legacy
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NDRU said: Timmy84 said: The thread was a joke in the first place. I thought it was "serious" too until Markk began reminding me, that's when every other post has been what it is. Just leave it alone, lol. I'll do the same. the thread title is misleading as it asks who is the first "rapper" But what he's really asking is which white artists first rapped. Adam Ant and & Blondie aren't rappers, but they are rapping, embracing the new art form. Not like Charlie Daniels or my clip from The Music Man who is just speaking rhymes--similar to rap (or maybe even identical you might argue) but not intended as an embrace of rap music/style. Yeah I can see why that is confusing. That's why my first response was the Beastie Boys. Has there really ever been any white female rapper?  | |
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Timmy84 said: NDRU said: the thread title is misleading as it asks who is the first "rapper" But what he's really asking is which white artists first rapped. Adam Ant and & Blondie aren't rappers, but they are rapping, embracing the new art form. Not like Charlie Daniels or my clip from The Music Man who is just speaking rhymes--similar to rap (or maybe even identical you might argue) but not intended as an embrace of rap music/style. Yeah I can see why that is confusing. That's why my first response was the Beastie Boys. Has there really ever been any white female rapper? probably, but that's weird I can't think of any  My Legacy
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NDRU said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I can see why that is confusing. That's why my first response was the Beastie Boys. Has there really ever been any white female rapper? probably, but that's weird I can't think of any I don't think there is a white female rapper! 
All the real white rappers are all male. | |
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NDRU said: Timmy84 said: The thread was a joke in the first place. I thought it was "serious" too until Markk began reminding me, that's when every other post has been what it is. Just leave it alone, lol. I'll do the same. the thread title is misleading as it asks who is the first "rapper" But what he's really asking is which white artists first rapped. Adam Ant and & Blondie aren't rappers, but they are rapping, embracing the new art form. Not like Charlie Daniels or my clip from The Music Man who is just speaking rhymes--similar to rap (or maybe even identical you might argue) but not intended as an embrace of rap music/style. Thanks! you're dead on with my intentions. I should have put 'Rappers' instead of Rappers maybe. Still could, but too late now!
the end result would have been the same tho probably. People going off all crazy and militant and shit. I dunno. |
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BlaqueKnight said: @ white people trying to claim hip-hop now.
Blondie isn't a f*cking rapper. Just because someone rhymes in a song, it doesn't make them a rapper. Prince has rap verses in songs but nobody with an ounce of common sense would compare him to say...Common Sense. Like so many threads on the org, this has turned into a farce. Hell, I could dig up old clips of Bob Hope rhyming but he wasn't a rapper. I thought somebody was going to bring up artists like Tarrie B (before she went metal). Y'all sittin' here talking like brothas in the Bronx were sitting up watching "The Music Man" and imitating that mess. GTFOH. It would have made more sense to bring up Malcolm Mclaren's Buffalo Gals. At least it could be called early hip-hop. And STOP bringing up Teena's name. Teena was not a rapper.
Teena was and is a complete artist: Singer, songwriter and musician. Yeah she spit a verse or two here and there but if anything, she was more of a poetess. The term "rapper" came about through hip-hop culture, so if it predates hip-hop, that person is not a RAPPER. Stick to the era. Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass, and yes, even Vanilla Ice and Markie Mark are RAPPERS. Marky Mark was more hip-house than hip-hop. | |
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Timmy84 said:
Has there really ever been any white female rapper? Eminem. That little bleach blonde bitch has certainly sucked Dr. Dre's dick enough to be a female. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Marrk said: BlaqueKnight said: @ white people trying to claim hip-hop now.
Blondie isn't a f*cking rapper. Just because someone rhymes in a song, it doesn't make them a rapper. Prince has rap verses in songs but nobody with an ounce of common sense would compare him to say...Common Sense. Like so many threads on the org, this has turned into a farce. Hell, I could dig up old clips of Bob Hope rhyming but he wasn't a rapper. I thought somebody was going to bring up artists like Tarrie B (before she went metal). Y'all sittin' here talking like brothas in the Bronx were sitting up watching "The Music Man" and imitating that mess. GTFOH. It would have made more sense to bring up Malcolm Mclaren's Buffalo Gals. At least it could be called early hip-hop. And STOP bringing up Teena's name. Teena was not a rapper.
Teena was and is a complete artist: Singer, songwriter and musician. Yeah she spit a verse or two here and there but if anything, she was more of a poetess. The term "rapper" came about through hip-hop culture, so if it predates hip-hop, that person is not a RAPPER. Stick to the era. Beastie Boys, 3rd Bass, and yes, even Vanilla Ice and Markie Mark are RAPPERS. calm down! nobody is claiming anything. it's a conversation, they evolve. you don't like that? fine. i don't see a problem here really.
Oh, and Tarrie B was mentioned early in the thread. F*** Tarrie B. Icy Blu had more street cred than her.  | |
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SO IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT MELLE MEL "GHOSTWROTE" DEBBIE HARRY'S VERSE?????
GTFOH!!!!! OK BLAQUE- I'LL PLAY DEVIL'S ADVOCATE HERE. EVERLAST IS THE FIRST WHITE RAPPER. SORRY-MARKY & VANILLA DON'T COUNT!!!!! EVERLAST WAS DOWN W/ICE-T BEFORE EITHER OF THEM CAME OUT. PLUS-MARKY WAS MORE HIP-HOUSE THAN HIP-HOP, WHICH WAS THE FAD AT THE TIME (IOVINE WAS DOIN' IT WAAAAAY BACK THEN). THE BEASTIES & 3RD BASS ARE DOPE WHITE RAPPERS, BUT THEY WERE.....GROUPS!!!!! AND LET'S JUST SAY THAT TAIRRIE B. WAS THE FIRST WHITE FEMALE RAPPER. I HAVE HER CASSETTE IN MY TAPE BOX, SO I KNOW SHE WAS DOPE AND WAS BACKED BY EAZY-E. HOWEVER, SHE WAS DATING EVERLAST BACK THEN. SO DOES THAT MAKE THEM "THE 1ST COUPLE OF WHITE RAP"?????
BUT MY MONEY STILL GOES ON DEBBIE HARRY- I DON'T GIVE A F**K WHAT ANYBODY SAYS: SHE EMBRACED THE CULTURE B4 EVERLAST COULD PEE STRAIGHT AND B4 TAIRRIE B. HAD HER 1ST PERIOD!!!!! DON'T BELIEVE ME???? ASK FAB 5 FREDDY!!!!!
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boriquateddy said: I'm with Blaqueknight on this one!!!
Sure Debbie Harry & Teena Marie spit verses they were not MC's they were singers experimenting and mixing the genres...Tairrie B. would be the first legitamte white female rapper...she was backed by Schoolly D. and N.W.A. as far as the fellas The Beastie Boys goes without saying! Eazy-E wanted Tairrie B to F*** For Tracks. THAT is The only reason why she was ever signed to Ruthless Records for only one career album. | |
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TonyVanDam said: boriquateddy said: I'm with Blaqueknight on this one!!!
Sure Debbie Harry & Teena Marie spit verses they were not MC's they were singers experimenting and mixing the genres...Tairrie B. would be the first legitamte white female rapper...she was backed by Schoolly D. and N.W.A. as far as the fellas The Beastie Boys goes without saying! Eazy-E wanted Tairrie B to F*** For Tracks. THAT is The only reason why she was ever signed to Ruthless Records for only one career album. Must be why I never heard of her. So it's safe to say there has been no legitimate female rappers who were of the Ivory persuasion? | |
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Timmy84 said: NDRU said: probably, but that's weird I can't think of any I don't think there is a white female rapper!
All the real white rappers are all male. Princess Superstar is a white female rapper that is still active as an REAL independent rap artist. She's backed by Kool Keith (who is REAL hip-hop, not the mainstream). | |
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TonyVanDam said: Timmy84 said: I don't think there is a white female rapper!
All the real white rappers are all male. Princess Superstar is a white female rapper that is still active as an REAL independent rap artist. She's backed by Kool Keith (who is REAL hip-hop, not the mainstream). Ah I gotcha! | |
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Timmy84 said: TonyVanDam said: Eazy-E wanted Tairrie B to F*** For Tracks. THAT is The only reason why she was ever signed to Ruthless Records for only one career album. Must be why I never heard of her. So it's safe to say there has been no legitimate female rappers who were of the Ivory persuasion?BTW, Eazy fired Tairrie for refusing to have sex with him to stay on his record label. THAT is the real reason why her career didn't even make it pass the first 5 out of the 15 minutes of fame! | |
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