yeah of course.
, this was a heated debate but i don't get to point where i insult anybody like i was directly insulted here,the discussion should be more respectful.

This is the ORG...

That's all you need to know.

To be honest I've been on more disrespectful forums than this (Siyclone )...

Sometimes I cannot tolerate with this, i could have responded to the insult with an insult, but I’m more civilized and respectful person to do this, and I didn’t do it out of respect to the forum rules.

Uh.... they missed these folks.

Louis Armstrong
Clifford Brown
Nat King Cole
Thomas Andrew Dorsey
Duke Ellington
Billie Holiday
Mahalia Jackson
Robert Johnson
Jelly Roll Morton
Bessie Smith
The Isley Brothers
Ike Turner
Sly & The Family Stones
Muddy Waters

Oh, I forgot ...

Charlie Christian
Larry Graham
Thelonious Monk
Wes Montgomery
Charlie Parker
James Brown second band
Oscar Peterson

Well I'm glad you didn't add to it. You can report it though, lol. That's the only way I can help you with that.

Well I'm glad you didn't add to it. You can report it though, lol. That's the only way I can help you with that.

Where is Donny Hathaway?

I was thinking that too

Donny had an obvious influence on many artists over the years

You forget BET don't know shit about Donny.

True

I think TVOne's Power Moves list was great. Did you see that one? Barack was #1

I hope nobody forwards this thread to them.

It's threads like this that show up just how ignorant so many around here are. Is it a coincidence that the ignorance is mostly coming from MJ and Janet fans? I think not. Some of them seem to be equating influence with fame. MJ is much more famous than James Brown, but nowhere near as musically important. James spawned two whole new genres. Funk and hip-hop. For the first 15 years of hip-hop it was James Brown who's music provided the basis for the music. He was (and still is) the most sampled man in music. Back in the '60s when he put out jams like Papa's Got a Brand New Bag and Cold Sweat it changed the arrangements for black bands all over the world. He moved soul in a more rhythmic direction. Without him the music of the last 50 years would be very different.

MJ on the other hand had hardly any musical influence, because he innovated nothing. His influence was on the visual side of things. Videos and spectacle. You only have to look at his descendants (Chris Brown, etc.) to see what Mike's importance was. He was an entertainment genius, but musically he was not a leader.

Bob Marley, by contrast, WAS an important musical figure. In the 70s and 80s white rock acts enthusiastically embraced reggae, which was a form they had derided before. The reason for that change was one man. Bob Marley. You could hear that change EVERYWHERE. However, he is not as influential as James Brown or Chuck Berry, who's absence from this list shows just how redundant it really is.

THIS LIST IS ABOUT INFLUENCIAL. NOT INNOVATION. if this was about innovation and creating a new genre of music JAMES BROWN WOULD WIN. but this is ABOUT INFLUENCE. AND MICHAEL HAS INFLUENCED MORE PEOPLE GLOBALLY THAN JAMES BROWN, AND THAT IS A FACT.

if I want to be delusional thats fine. But its evident that michaels influence is not around.

Fixed

I think you should
midnightmover makes a valid point.

Don't pay her no mind

but Michael's MUSICAL influence is there, and you hear it all the time. I hear it in several producers' work and you can hear in people's vocal stylings.

When I listen Robin Thicke, John Legend, Junior, The Neptunes, Maroon 5, and contemporary R&B acts like Marques Houston, Omarion, British singers Nathan and Craig David, Asian stars like Crystal Kay, and Rain....

Mike laid the groundwork for the young black R&B singer

Now THAT is true, lol. Though I don't like Marques and Omarion all that much, lol.

Don't pay her no mind

but Michael's MUSICAL influence is there, and you hear it all the time. I hear it in several producers' work and you can hear in people's vocal stylings.

When I listen Robin Thicke, John Legend, Junior, The Neptunes, Maroon 5, and contemporary R&B acts like Marques Houston, Omarion, British singers Nathan and Craig David, Asian stars like Crystal Kay, and Rain....

Mike laid the groundwork for the young black R&B singer

I was listening to Marques' song "Actin Up" and at the end when he got into his adlibs, I was like "Michael?

I could imagine he was doing that. These goons always think that they're doing something with the ad-libs.

Now THAT is true, lol. Though I don't like Marques and Omarion all that much, lol.

Oh, you think so, huh? John Legend? Maroon 5? WTF? There is no particular MJ influence audible in the work of most of the people listed there. What Craig David songs do you think sound like Michael? Robin Thicke is ripping off 70s soul artists like Marvin and Curtis, not MJ. The Neptunes? Are you serious? I know Pharell has warm childhood memories of MJ, but his music don't sound NOTHING LIKE MJ's. There's much more of a Prince influence there than an MJ one. Hey, why not add Radiohead to the list of MJ acolytes? After all, any fool can hear the bass line to "Creep" was lifted directly from "The Way You Make Me Feel".
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Oh, you think so, huh? John Legend? Maroon 5? WTF? There is no particular MJ influence audible in the work of most of the people listed there. What Craig David songs do you think sound like Michael? Robin Thicke is ripping off 70s soul artists like Marvin and Curtis, not MJ. The Neptunes? Are you serious? I know Pharell has warm childhood memories of MJ, but his music don't sound NOTHING LIKE MJ's. There's much more of a Prince influence there than an MJ one. Hey, why not add Radiohead to the list of MJ acolytes? After all, any fool can hear the bass line to "Creep" was lifted directly from "The Way You Make Me Feel".
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