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Reply #120 posted 02/16/09 6:56am

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Graycap23 said:

Luther Vandross: Creepin

Ew. Am I the only one who hates that cover? The "creep, creep, creep, creep" crap is beyond irritating. Also, I feel like Luther completely oversings it -- changing the rhythm, dragging it out (sometimes, it sounds like he briefly forgets the next line), and even using some of that damn whispering. It's just so sterile. His covers are normally very good, but that one leaves me completely cold. FWIW, I heard Luther's first, but I can't stand to listen to it when I can just spin the original instead. Luther hadn't crossed over at that time, but I still feel like took a sexy song and made it "adult contemporary." I will admit I dislike most Stevie covers (especially those not sung by little Mike).
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Reply #121 posted 02/16/09 7:01am

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Cinnie said:

midnightmover said:

Stevie Wonder - For Once In My Life


I don't even know who originally did that one. Was it another Motown song that got passed around like a joint "Heard It Through The Grapevine"?

Jean DuShon did the original. It's funny you mentioned "...Grapevine," because Marvin's version is the song that kept "For Once in My Life" at #2 on the Hot 100 and R&B charts. Interestingly enough, both songs were originally shelved because Berry Gordy didn't like them.
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Reply #122 posted 02/16/09 7:08am

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Nice! I'd never heard that before. I still prefer Sammi Smith's but Gladys' version - arrangement and vocal - is really lovely. She sang a good handful of country songs in the 70s.
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Reply #123 posted 02/16/09 7:19am

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AlexdeParis said:

Cinnie said:



I don't even know who originally did that one. Was it another Motown song that got passed around like a joint "Heard It Through The Grapevine"?

Jean DuShon did the original. It's funny you mentioned "...Grapevine," because Marvin's version is the song that kept "For Once in My Life" at #2 on the Hot 100 and R&B charts. Interestingly enough, both songs were originally shelved because Berry Gordy didn't like them.



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Reply #124 posted 02/16/09 7:36am

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Cinnie said:

AlexdeParis said:


Jean DuShon did the original. It's funny you mentioned "...Grapevine," because Marvin's version is the song that kept "For Once in My Life" at #2 on the Hot 100 and R&B charts. Interestingly enough, both songs were originally shelved because Berry Gordy didn't like them.



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Reply #125 posted 02/16/09 7:40am

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Luther A House is Not a Home
Luther Superstar
Luther If this world were mine. . . fuck it, anything Luther put his stank on was better than the original IMO. mushy
Gladys and the Pips Heard it through the grapevine
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Reply #126 posted 02/16/09 7:42am

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TotalAlisa said:

Shango said:

Originals and re-do's are both tight imo

Chaka - I Feel For You
Meli'sa Morgan - Do Me Baby

I thought Melissa was the Original?????

Oh Lawd faint
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Reply #127 posted 02/16/09 7:47am

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TotalAlisa said:


I thought Melissa was the Original?????

Oh Lawd faint


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Reply #128 posted 02/16/09 7:58am

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SCNDLS said:

TotalAlisa said:


I thought Melissa was the Original?????

Oh Lawd faint


TotalAlisa has admitted in the past that she isn't a Prince fan and found this site while searching for Jacksons'-related info. lol
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Reply #129 posted 02/16/09 8:02am

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feelin alright-joe cocker
a change is gonna come- al green
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it's too late-issac hayes
the look of love-issac hayes
don't let me be lonley tonight-issac hayes
by the time i get to phoenix-issac hayes
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Reply #130 posted 02/16/09 8:08am

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RipHer2Shreds said:

Harlepolis said:


Nice! I'd never heard that before. I still prefer Sammi Smith's but Gladys' version - arrangement and vocal - is really lovely. She sang a good handful of country songs in the 70s.


Seriously? eek

Thats one of her most requested songs from her live repertoire.

She and Candi Staton could sing famous country tunes aaaaall day everyday as far as I'm concern love music
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Reply #131 posted 02/16/09 8:15am

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sextonseven said:

SCNDLS said:


Oh Lawd faint


TotalAlisa has admitted in the past that she isn't a Prince fan and found this site while searching for Jacksons'-related info. lol

Still faint

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Reply #132 posted 02/16/09 8:34am

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I prefer Isaac Haye's version,,,,sexier.


You should check out the version by The New Birth. That one is my favorite.
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Reply #133 posted 02/16/09 8:53am

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AlexdeParis said:

Graycap23 said:

Luther Vandross: Creepin

Ew. Am I the only one who hates that cover? The "creep, creep, creep, creep" crap is beyond irritating. Also, I feel like Luther completely oversings it -- changing the rhythm, dragging it out (sometimes, it sounds like he briefly forgets the next line), and even using some of that damn whispering. It's just so sterile. His covers are normally very good, but that one leaves me completely cold. FWIW, I heard Luther's first, but I can't stand to listen to it when I can just spin the original instead. Luther hadn't crossed over at that time, but I still feel like took a sexy song and made it "adult contemporary." I will admit I dislike most Stevie covers (especially those not sung by little Mike).


I have to agree. At first Luther's was alright but that was before I even realized he covered it and his version was the first I heard. Then a few years ago, I learned Stevie did it first and when I listened to it, I almost got mad at Luther for his arrangement. I'm like "the fuck?!" lol
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Reply #134 posted 02/16/09 8:54am

Timmy84

AlexdeParis said:

Cinnie said:



I don't even know who originally did that one. Was it another Motown song that got passed around like a joint "Heard It Through The Grapevine"?

Jean DuShon did the original. It's funny you mentioned "...Grapevine," because Marvin's version is the song that kept "For Once in My Life" at #2 on the Hot 100 and R&B charts. Interestingly enough, both songs were originally shelved because Berry Gordy didn't like them.


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Reply #135 posted 02/16/09 9:11am

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U2 - All Along The Watchtower

http://www.youtube.com/wa...3lv5gbMSSY


And no it is NOT the jammed, unrehearsed version from Rattle and Hum, this is a much more polished (but still edgy) version from later on.

Check out Edge's solo at 1:30 onwards eek One of his finest moments, in my opinion.


I know everyone's all about the Hendrix version, which is of course a classic, but I like this U2 version too.


There are a couple I don't have links to, also:


Johnny Marr (yes, the one from The Smiths) - Don't Think Twice It's Alright

Marr's vocals are very sweet on this, contrasting with the rather bitter lyrical content. Not sure it's quite what Dylan intended, but a great version.

Echo and The Bunnymen - Ticket To Ride

Will Sargent's chiming guitar sound suits this song down to the ground, and of course McCulloch isn't lacking the scouse accent either!
I have a version of this from a Beatles cover CD that came with a magazine, and this song starts with Noel Gallagher of Oasis saying how it is the best Beatles song and he has spent years trying to rip it off.
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Reply #136 posted 02/16/09 9:37am

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shorttrini said:


I hate the EW&F cover of this song. Ironically, I think the Beatles version is much more soulful. Earth's version sounds so commercial.


Agreed.
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Reply #137 posted 02/16/09 12:40pm

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AlexdeParis said:

Graycap23 said:

Luther Vandross: Creepin

Ew. Am I the only one who hates that cover? The "creep, creep, creep, creep" crap is beyond irritating. Also, I feel like Luther completely oversings it -- changing the rhythm, dragging it out (sometimes, it sounds like he briefly forgets the next line), and even using some of that damn whispering. It's just so sterile. His covers are normally very good, but that one leaves me completely cold. FWIW, I heard Luther's first, but I can't stand to listen to it when I can just spin the original instead. Luther hadn't crossed over at that time, but I still feel like took a sexy song and made it "adult contemporary." I will admit I dislike most Stevie covers (especially those not sung by little Mike).

I can see your point about this, but I really enjoy Luther's cover of the song. It's not necessarilly about how he sang it, but I love the musical arrangement much better than Stevie's. Marcus and Luther did a great job with it. I will admit that I didn't care for the song when I first got the album, but when I saw Luther perform it, it made me like it. Of course, he changed the vocal arrangement to the song live and made it much better.
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Reply #138 posted 02/16/09 12:46pm

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bboy87 said:

I also enjoy Wham!'s version of "If You Were There" than I do The Isleys' version


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Reply #139 posted 02/16/09 12:50pm

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D'Angelo's version of Cruisin'
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Reply #140 posted 02/16/09 12:51pm

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daPrettyman said:

AlexdeParis said:


Ew. Am I the only one who hates that cover? The "creep, creep, creep, creep" crap is beyond irritating. Also, I feel like Luther completely oversings it -- changing the rhythm, dragging it out (sometimes, it sounds like he briefly forgets the next line), and even using some of that damn whispering. It's just so sterile. His covers are normally very good, but that one leaves me completely cold. FWIW, I heard Luther's first, but I can't stand to listen to it when I can just spin the original instead. Luther hadn't crossed over at that time, but I still feel like took a sexy song and made it "adult contemporary." I will admit I dislike most Stevie covers (especially those not sung by little Mike).

I can see your point about this, but I really enjoy Luther's cover of the song. It's not necessarilly about how he sang it, but I love the musical arrangement much better than Stevie's. Marcus and Luther did a great job with it. I will admit that I didn't care for the song when I first got the album, but when I saw Luther perform it, it made me like it. Of course, he changed the vocal arrangement to the song live and made it much better.

shrug I think the arrangement is crap. The bass feels completely disconnected from everything else, making it way too top-heavy and airy (for lack of a better term). That's a lot of what takes away the sexiness IMO. In the original, the bass drives the song, but there's a cohesive, wall-of-sound sort of feel. Think I'll go spin the original now. music
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Reply #141 posted 02/16/09 12:58pm

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paisleypark4 said:

bboy87 said:

I also enjoy Wham!'s version of "If You Were There" than I do The Isleys' version


dancing jig

Since everyone who's said this so far is even younger than I am, can I assume it's because you heard it first? I mean, it's not that far from being a note-for-note copy. Is it coming down to Ron vs. George? That's the decider for me. As much as I love George as a singer, I find his reading too straightforward and earnest. In contrast, Ron plays it coy, which seems to fit the song much better IMO.
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Reply #142 posted 02/16/09 1:31pm

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AlexdeParis said:

daPrettyman said:


I can see your point about this, but I really enjoy Luther's cover of the song. It's not necessarilly about how he sang it, but I love the musical arrangement much better than Stevie's. Marcus and Luther did a great job with it. I will admit that I didn't care for the song when I first got the album, but when I saw Luther perform it, it made me like it. Of course, he changed the vocal arrangement to the song live and made it much better.

shrug I think the arrangement is crap. The bass feels completely disconnected from everything else, making it way too top-heavy and airy (for lack of a better term). That's a lot of what takes away the sexiness IMO. In the original, the bass drives the song, but there's a cohesive, wall-of-sound sort of feel. Think I'll go spin the original now. music

You are right, but that's what I like about the bass line on Luther's. Stevie's version is good to me also, but for different reasons. I really like the way Steve's is haunting and sexy at the same time.
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Reply #143 posted 02/17/09 6:58am

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daPrettyman said:

AlexdeParis said:


Ew. Am I the only one who hates that cover? The "creep, creep, creep, creep" crap is beyond irritating. Also, I feel like Luther completely oversings it -- changing the rhythm, dragging it out (sometimes, it sounds like he briefly forgets the next line), and even using some of that damn whispering. It's just so sterile. His covers are normally very good, but that one leaves me completely cold. FWIW, I heard Luther's first, but I can't stand to listen to it when I can just spin the original instead. Luther hadn't crossed over at that time, but I still feel like took a sexy song and made it "adult contemporary." I will admit I dislike most Stevie covers (especially those not sung by little Mike).

I can see your point about this, but I really enjoy Luther's cover of the song. It's not necessarilly about how he sang it, but I love the musical arrangement much better than Stevie's. Marcus and Luther did a great job with it. I will admit that I didn't care for the song when I first got the album, but when I saw Luther perform it, it made me like it. Of course, he changed the vocal arrangement to the song live and made it much better.

I'm going 2 have 2 listen again.
I've never listened 2 both songs back 2 back.
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Reply #144 posted 02/17/09 9:15am

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SCNDLS said:

Luther A House is Not a Home
Luther Superstar
Luther If this world were mine. . . fuck it, anything Luther put his stank on was better than the original IMO. mushy
Gladys and the Pips Heard it through the grapevine
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I agree with the Luther comment. For almost every song except for most of the remakes on "Songs". I generally love Luther's remakes, but Walter Afanassium really f-uped the arrangements on that album. He made the songs sound like Mariah songs and not Luther songs.
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Reply #145 posted 02/17/09 9:32am

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Oasis - I Am The Walrus


Maybe not "better than the original", perhaps just as good but for different reasons.
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Reply #146 posted 02/17/09 6:32pm

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daPrettyman said:

SCNDLS said:

Luther A House is Not a Home
Luther Superstar
Luther If this world were mine. . . fuck it, anything Luther put his stank on was better than the original IMO. mushy
Gladys and the Pips Heard it through the grapevine
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I agree with the Luther comment. For almost every song except for most of the remakes on "Songs". I generally love Luther's remakes, but Walter Afanassium really f-uped the arrangements on that album. He made the songs sound like Mariah songs and not Luther songs.

nod I agree with you completely on Songs. For a man who made a career out of great covers, that was a piss-poor album. The only one I could stand was "Love the One You're With."

I disagree about "If This World Were Mine," but that's mostly because I don't think anyone has ever sang as well as Marvin.
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Reply #147 posted 02/17/09 7:41pm

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Reply #148 posted 02/17/09 9:21pm

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AlexdeParis said:

paisleypark4 said:



dancing jig

Since everyone who's said this so far is even younger than I am, can I assume it's because you heard it first? I mean, it's not that far from being a note-for-note copy. Is it coming down to Ron vs. George? That's the decider for me. As much as I love George as a singer, I find his reading too straightforward and earnest. In contrast, Ron plays it coy, which seems to fit the song much better IMO.

Nah, I heard The Isley's version first when I was really young, but I prefer Wham!'s version because George's version of the chorus and the instrumentation
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Reply #149 posted 02/18/09 3:04am

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