Sander said:

Well, carry on if you want to get a D-.

It's a thread about a gay topic. We all want a "D" of some kind. I don't want a D- though, I want a D+.

ScarletScandal said:

You noticed my avvie!

Wow, this is quite a thread.

CrozzaUK said:

It really not to technical Disco came about in 70's just after funk ...we all know what happened in the 60' free love etc.. black people having right etc..now when we say black people we also need to include Women and Gays rights because the change opened doors to alot of culture exchanges black and white...love...blah blah blah...

Now electro music started in Germany in the late 60's - 70's but not only their it also took of big in reggae music...this is also when rap music started in the US ...what the DJ/Tosters did in early reggae was use electronic sounds which they mixed into records when playing in a club ...you hear it as Dub ..echoes..etc..electronic bleeps and rewind or pulling back the record and a DJ /MC would toste over the record ...SOME of these DJ's where GAY men who would express the music with a story "rap" ...wear flash clothing etc...gold rings...blah blah...some of this exported to New York and the rest they say is HIStory...

vainandy said:

Hmmm, well i think the word taste is important. A lot of gay people are pre occupied by all things "tasteful" - or perceived tasteful - but when you talk about classical music im not sure its relevant as i would say it is more tied in to an appreciation of the arts - another integral aspect of gay culture - or at least as far as the cliche goes.

I do agree with gay people a lot of what we aspire to is to be something different and set apart from the "norm", hence a cliched obsession with appearance, fashion, pop culture. Gay culture has heavy affiliation with performance, the arts and creativity, but when i say gay people in general are attracted to beat driven music - i guess i mean to say they're more inclined to express their appreciation of it, and be less inhibited to show it on the dancefloor.

No chance of any beating around kind of bush in these gay threads.
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vainandy said:

Thanks. Now I know why you started this thread. My bad Sanders started this thread but you kept it going.
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Mong said:

How often do you shave...

Very true.

Oh, OK. I was fixing to get you.

Speaking of the gay or glam look in funk or even R&B for that matter, I never noticed until the mid to late 1980s. If you notice in the 1970s, most of the band members in funk groups wore matching outfits. They looked more like costumes rather than clothes. Some of them looked like they had just stepped off of a space ship. The matching outfits and costumes spilled over into the early 1980s also. The only people on the R&B side I can think of in these days with a glam look was Sylvester and Prince. Sylvester was openly gay and Prince was heavily influenced by the new wave at the time such as Gary Numan ("Automatic" is very similar sounding to "Cars").

The pop/rock groups and new wavers were all into the glam scene in the early 1980s....Boy George, Adam Ant, Gary Numan, Twisted Sister, A Flock of Seaguls, The Thompson Twins, etc. They all showed off their looks in their music videos on MTV, "Night Tracks", "Friday Night Videos", etc. When music videos took off, then you started seeing The Barkays dropping the matching costumes and getting a glam look. Then DeBarge got a glam look. Then groups like Ready For The World came out wearing eye liner and different things. As I said before the music video era which was started by the new wavers, the funk groups wore matching costumes rather than personal clothing and having an individual "look".

LondonStyle said:

Without black music there wouldnt have been no electro

paisleypark4 said:

You might be mixing up electro with electronic two separate music sounds and styles...electro beat is hip-hop USA and electronic/new wave is pop european the you have electronic/synth is funk and electronic feedback or Dub reggae ..

i dont consider funk gay but im sure a lot of people my age would think otherwise

minneapolisFunq said:

why?

all the flamboyant clothing,eyeliner, androgynys attitudes

most 18 year olds listen to rap music(or heavy metal) in which the lyrics bash homosexuality so there is a barrier already built which is hard 2 break

Sander said:

Actually,
That sums up my reaction from the thread title.
Can't wait for the movie though!

minneapolisFunq said:

I find this sort of funny as at 18 you should rebel ...hip-hop/rap is mainstream so alot of young people should be moving away from it ... rap lyrics have alot of subjects in them ...not just gay bashing ....but if you focus on just one topic then how do they get played...

This is coporate USA at work ... and the Media which has alot of Gay Men in it...strange...

In one word: No.

Also, the way they dress is so common and thuggish and they accuse anything that has a little color, shine, style, or flash to it as being "gay". In other words, if it ain't dull and bland, it must be gay.

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LondonStyle said:

As I've said before, in all other generations, most 18 year olds would want to rebel, be different, stand out, be an individual, and be noticed. This new generation seems to want to blend in totally with everyone else and the last thing most of them want to do is be different in any kind of way. Not wanting to be considered different is true with most average ordinary kids of any generation but the entertainers of the past wanted to be different and trend setters. The entertainers of today seem to have no desire to stand out.

As I've always said, most of this generation is going backwards to the old fashioned days before the rock and roll era instead of forward.

Funk is not gay. But then sometimes I see pictures from the late 80's & 90's of Larry Blackmon and CAMEO (who I love) and wonder...




("not that there's anything wrong with that"!-Quote from Seinfeld)

Thank you all for replying! It's been a ball!

No single genre can be claimed to be gay. Nor can you claim the gay community to be a single entity with homogeneous preferences (no pun). This was just a fun little exercise in music culture!

And remember now, funk ain't nothing but a party y'all!!!

it's often glam.

and sometimes when i'm a little down on it, i feel like it's only about a half an inch intellectually deeper than disco, i.e. mindless dance party music.


generally love it, but sometimes have my doubts.

SoulAlive said:

.....

I think theres a decadence in funk that atrackts people who are individule.
Funk is a cutlure that exists on its own & Gay is a culture that exists on it's own.Fuse them together & you could possibly end up with Boy George!

wow.

aazzaabb said:

boy george was in no way funky.

Sander said:

That's imo a far stretch you're reaching with. Too much of a generalisation.
The original meaning for funk is "smell", btw.