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Reply #120 posted 02/11/09 1:31pm

SPYZFAN1

Hate to say it, but I think this is going to make Chris Brown even larger. Not saying what he did was right, but if this thing cools down (and if he walks free) all eyes will be on his next move.

This will probably change his image from "boy next door" to "ruffneck next door".
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Reply #121 posted 02/11/09 1:36pm

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SPYZFAN1 said:

Hate to say it, but I think this is going to make Chris Brown even larger. Not saying what he did was right, but if this thing cools down (and if he walks free) all eyes will be on his next move.

This will probably change his image from "boy next door" to "ruffneck next door".

I don't think he will be bigger.

The only way I see his career staying afloat is for him to acknowledge he has a problem, go to rehab, issue a public apology and then...maybe...he'll sustain.
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Reply #122 posted 02/11/09 1:38pm

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SHUT. UP! that witch has her own website?! lol



Yes! She's gonna find a way to make this work, dammit!

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Oh lord, you can make a donation and leave a comment. I can only imagine what Supa might say if he leaves a comment lol .
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Reply #123 posted 02/11/09 1:40pm

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So bad publicity isn't good?
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Reply #124 posted 02/11/09 1:50pm

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I don't think what's happening is as much about Chris Brown as it is about Rihanna.

If he had done this to an unknown girlfriend, it probably wouldn't have gotten so much publicity.

The fact that he did it to Rihanna - a media darling - and that it coincided with the Grammys (causing them to have to find replacements) is what really did him in.
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Reply #125 posted 02/11/09 1:51pm

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Would people care if he beat a woman who wasn't famous? I doubt it.

I'm not sure if R Kelly's career was been damaged by the allegations made against him, but if an Olsen twin was the alleged victim I’m sure the implications would be worse.

But I’m sure people will forget about this in due course. I mean he only physically abused a person, it’s not like he flashed his boob– that is unforgivable.

I think that has something to do with it.
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Reply #126 posted 02/11/09 2:04pm

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Singer Chris Brown has lost his big money endorsement deals with Wrigley gum and I Got Milk, plus he has been dropped from the NBA All-Star game activities this week and a Valentine's Day show. To add to his woes, many radio stations have decided to remove his music from their station playlists.

What do you think? Has the court of public opinion already judged Brown guilty and his career is now tanked?


Ahh it can work the other way?? You know?? Radio playing music because someone gets into a heap of shit mess.

I don't mind people getting what they deserve. At this rate good people are getting shit because the economy sucks, so I don't feel sorry for a loser like Chris Brown for messing up a real - real - real good thing. Other singers/musicians are waiting in the wings to take his place and so be it.

The swimmer guy lost endosements for smoking some weed so I don't think its a race thing. People are pissed and in this environment you don't wanna get thrown to the angry mob.
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Reply #127 posted 02/11/09 2:05pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

mancabdriver said:

Would people care if he beat a woman who wasn't famous? I doubt it.

I'm not sure if R Kelly's career was been damaged by the allegations made against him, but if an Olsen twin was the alleged victim I’m sure the implications would be worse.

But I’m sure people will forget about this in due course. I mean he only physically abused a person, it’s not like he flashed his boob– that is unforgivable.

I think that has something to do with it.



I mean yeah..arent they both on the same label and both have huge careers right now.
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Reply #128 posted 02/11/09 2:11pm

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wildgoldenhoney said:

mancabdriver said:

Would people care if he beat a woman who wasn't famous? I doubt it.

I'm not sure if R Kelly's career was been damaged by the allegations made against him, but if an Olsen twin was the alleged victim I’m sure the implications would be worse.

But I’m sure people will forget about this in due course. I mean he only physically abused a person, it’s not like he flashed his boob– that is unforgivable.

I think that has something to do with it.


I think it's also the entire downtrend we are in. Take Michael Phelps, the guy smokes some weed at a party and he is also done. Big dumb fish that smokes weed, not really a suprise but the mob is hungry for blood.

People are angry in these dark times.

Also reports of Chris Brown beating her bloody didn't help. From reports it sounds like he beat the living piss out of Rhianna. If that's true thats just not cool. It's one thing if a chick tries to cut you with glass and you slap the hoe but to beat one bloody is another thing. I understand there is a theocratic order and its God Man and then Womyn but....ahh just kiddin about that last part. You can't beat anyone bloody.
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Reply #129 posted 02/11/09 2:17pm

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many radio stations have decided to remove his music from their station playlists.


And the world breathes a sigh of relief. lol
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Reply #130 posted 02/11/09 2:22pm

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This probably wouldn't have been a problem if we had a "bad boy" image of him to begin with but Chris Brown is always squeeky clean, cheesing and reminding us how young he is.

And the ban from playlists is probably not permanent. Does anyone feel like hearing his songs right now? confuse
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Reply #131 posted 02/11/09 2:44pm

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This probably wouldn't have been a problem if we had a "bad boy" image of him to begin with but Chris Brown is always squeeky clean, cheesing and reminding us how young he is.


Yeah, Good point. I remember Kenny Rogers getting dropped from a K-Mart deal for setting up a telephone line to talk with sluts he met while on tour. You know: cheap phone sex! Not even against the law. I guess K-Mart didn't want a spokesperson that was a creepy pervert?
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Reply #132 posted 02/11/09 2:45pm

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Cinnie said:

This probably wouldn't have been a problem if we had a "bad boy" image of him to begin with but Chris Brown is always squeeky clean, cheesing and reminding us how young he is.

And the ban from playlists is probably not permanent. Does anyone feel like hearing his songs right now? confuse


Basically.
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Reply #133 posted 02/11/09 2:54pm

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Okay, so is THIS enough proof for ya'll??? hmmm



It should have been obvious this was not the real deal to anyone that has an ounce of goose sense - Rihanna and Chris Brown had their altercation five miles from Clive Davis' Pre-Grammy party. The outfits they both were wearing was still on them. her hairdo was nothing like the one in the fake pic being passed around. The lead detective says he is not letting the photos out of secure control so the media can't publish them.
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Reply #134 posted 02/11/09 2:57pm

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Singer Chris Brown has lost his big money endorsement deals with Wrigley gum and I Got Milk, plus he has been dropped from the NBA All-Star game activities this week and a Valentine's Day show. To add to his woes, many radio stations have decided to remove his music from their station playlists.

What do you think? Has the court of public opinion already judged Brown guilty and his career is now tanked?



I think that celebs should be treated like anyone else. Whether they are suspects, victims or witnesses in a situation. Chris Brown made choices that early morning of Sunday, February 8th. Yes he is 19, yes he came from a background of some abuse, but the choices he made were not good ones, or even correct ones. His career is irrelevant at this point. It is only relevant to his staff that he pays, his fanatical fans and to his own ego-drenched self.
A person was hurt physically, emotionally and financially. Robyn Rihanna Fenty is a machine, just like Christopher Maurice Brown. Their lifestyles impact many others. Brown should have thought about radio airplay, pitch ads, perosnal appearnces, etrc. whe he decided to become a prize fighter on Feb. 8th. I don't a flying rat's ass what Miss Fenty did, nothing justifies what he did.
Yes in America you are supposedly innocent till proven guilty, well sometimes the guilty are found not guilty via political bullshit,and sometimes the innocent get convicted because they were not 'Dream Team' able in their legal representation. I am still shocked that Shyne is in jail and Sean Diddy or whatever she calls herself this week is still free. I am still shocked that O.J. Simpson beat a double murder wrap that he did, and now sit in jail rotting for a kindergarten move type robbery to het his own shit back; I am still pissed that number pisser Robery Kelly is not under the jail for what he did; and I am equallly pissed over Michelle Jackson not getting hisher just fruits for his deeds with lil boys that has gone on for many years. Enough is enough.
If Joe Blow had been sought for 18 hours and the victim had the injuries from an ass beating like Rihanna did, this would be a no-brainer. When can anyone of you that follows current events ever seen Mark Geragos be the attorney on a case and he not be all over Larry King Live, TODAY Show, ET, MTV, etc. professing the innocence of his high profile client? From jump, Brown turned himself in at a station where Geragos knew they didn't release mug shots, he also had his private investigator in the backseat with Brown, and the purpose of the p.i. = tear down the victim/accuser. Geragos will run his mouth after the prosecutor's office announces all charges, and then it will be open season on Rihanna. She will be a conniving AIDS infested stalking slut by the time they are through with her - but none of that matters, eh bit the shit out of her, and bit her. She can count her lucky stars that regular citizens saw and heard the altercation, and therefore no spin machine will wash away the reality that Chris Brown, the singer, committed domestic violence on her.
So yes he should suffer backlash for if nothing else, being a fraud.
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Ya know, I was with you til you got to Michael confused because I did my research on that case along with reading into Kells (who I hate not just for having sex with young girls, but for having terrible music)
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Reply #135 posted 02/11/09 3:05pm

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I dunno about radio but as far as endorsements:

People made those deals because they thought associating with him would make them some money.

Now that all this has gone down, they don't see any more money there, so no more deal. Whether he's proven innocent in court or not, they just don't think they're gonna get rich off him right now. Same as Michael Phelps.

Ah, fickle fame!

If he does turn out to be innocent he'll still probably be tarred with a negative image for the rest of his life, which is unfair. Lots of things about fame are unfair. It's the most bullshit pursuit you could ever make in your life. So, sorry bro, but you live by the sword you can die by it too.
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Reply #136 posted 02/11/09 3:08pm

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bobzilla77 said:

I dunno about radio but as far as endorsements:

People made those deals because they thought associating with him would make them some money.

Now that all this has gone down, they don't see any more money there, so no more deal. Whether he's proven innocent in court or not, they just don't think they're gonna get rich off him right now. Same as Michael Phelps.

Ah, fickle fame!

If he does turn out to be innocent he'll still probably be tarred with a negative image for the rest of his life, which is unfair. Lots of things about fame are unfair. It's the most bullshit pursuit you could ever make in your life. So, sorry bro, but you live by the sword you can die by it too.

I'm still laughing about Phelps, dude took a hit off some weed, and he's public enemy #1?
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Reply #137 posted 02/11/09 3:23pm

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hes a woman beater, a pussy, and yes he should be without a fucking doubt
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Reply #138 posted 02/11/09 3:26pm

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LondonStyle said:



...p.s. you can't kick someone out of a car...not in the London and i'm damn sure not in LA ... biggrin



Yes,you can.It takes a real man to walk away from a fight.Hitting a woman is a punk ass move.
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Reply #139 posted 02/11/09 3:27pm

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bobzilla77 said:

I dunno about radio but as far as endorsements:

People made those deals because they thought associating with him would make them some money.

Now that all this has gone down, they don't see any more money there, so no more deal. Whether he's proven innocent in court or not, they just don't think they're gonna get rich off him right now. Same as Michael Phelps.

Ah, fickle fame!

If he does turn out to be innocent he'll still probably be tarred with a negative image for the rest of his life, which is unfair. Lots of things about fame are unfair. It's the most bullshit pursuit you could ever make in your life. So, sorry bro, but you live by the sword you can die by it too.

I'm still laughing about Phelps, dude took a hit off some weed, and he's public enemy #1?


They need to leave Michael Phelps alone. I don't see where he did any wrong. People are so stupid sometimes. All for a bong, are you kidding me?!
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Reply #140 posted 02/11/09 3:34pm

Vendetta1

Either side could put an end to rumors and speculation. Chris Brown could ocme out and admit it, apologize and move past it, if it's true.

I don't need more details to come out to know he hit her. That's all I need to know.
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Reply #141 posted 02/11/09 3:36pm

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Either side could put an end to rumors and speculation. Chris Brown could ocme out and admit it, apologize and move past it, if it's true.

I don't need more details to come out to know he hit her. That's all I need to know.


The no-comment factor is hurting Chris more than it's hurting Rihanna in this sense. I wonder what kind of camp he's running. They don't seem to be doing a good job.
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Reply #142 posted 02/11/09 3:38pm

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Timmy84 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Either side could put an end to rumors and speculation. Chris Brown could ocme out and admit it, apologize and move past it, if it's true.

I don't need more details to come out to know he hit her. That's all I need to know.


The no-comment factor is hurting Chris more than it's hurting Rihanna in this sense. I wonder what kind of camp he's running. They don't seem to be doing a good job.
Exactly! If he's not guilty, then he should just say so.

I don't think they should stop playing his music. As much as I believe he hit Rihanna, there is still such a thing as innocent until proven guilty in this country.
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Reply #143 posted 02/11/09 3:38pm

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Hate to say it, but I think this is going to make Chris Brown even larger. Not saying what he did was right, but if this thing cools down (and if he walks free) all eyes will be on his next move.

This will probably change his image from "boy next door" to "ruffneck next door".


You are trippin'. : ))

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Reply #144 posted 02/11/09 3:45pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



The no-comment factor is hurting Chris more than it's hurting Rihanna in this sense. I wonder what kind of camp he's running. They don't seem to be doing a good job.
Exactly! If he's not guilty, then he should just say so.

I don't think they should stop playing his music. As much as I believe he hit Rihanna, there is still such a thing as innocent until proven guilty in this country.


But see, I think there's a reason why they've stopped: Rihanna is famous too.

Usually when you're accused of hitting another famous singer, you're not looked on as you used to be. Look at Ike Turner. Hate to compare but after news came out that Ike & Tina had that nasty fight in 1976, Ike Turner's music was banned. I don't know if the Ike & Tina music was taken off radio, but Tina struggled for eight years before they could trust her again due negatively to her connections with Ike.

Compare that to Bobby & Whitney, whose own abusive tiff came AFTER both their careers nosedived. And this was before the reality show, lol.

That said, it does seem unusual they'll just take his music off like that.
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Reply #145 posted 02/11/09 3:49pm

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Timmy84 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Exactly! If he's not guilty, then he should just say so.

I don't think they should stop playing his music. As much as I believe he hit Rihanna, there is still such a thing as innocent until proven guilty in this country.


But see, I think there's a reason why they've stopped: Rihanna is famous too.

Usually when you're accused of hitting another famous singer, you're not looked on as you used to be. Look at Ike Turner. Hate to compare but after news came out that Ike & Tina had that nasty fight in 1976, Ike Turner's music was banned. I don't know if the Ike & Tina music was taken off radio, but Tina struggled for eight years before they could trust her again due negatively to her connections with Ike.

Compare that to Bobby & Whitney, whose own abusive tiff came AFTER both their careers nosedived. And this was before the reality show, lol.

That said, it does seem unusual they'll just take his music off like that.
I can't get over the fact they are famous. The two of them together couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. confused
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Reply #146 posted 02/11/09 3:50pm

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and if people really think its fair that his songs get dropped from radio playlists, then fine....the following artists below songs should be dropped too:

James Brown (domestic abuse)
Ike Turner (domestic abuse)
Jimi Hendrix (domestic abuse)
Notorious BIG (domestic abuse)
Big Pun (domestic abuse)
R. Kelly (child molestation)
MJ (child molestation)
Pete Townsend (child molestation)
Christopher Williams (domestic abuse; but his songs aren't played anyway, lol )
and the list would get longer and longer.

This is why its NOT fair that they are dropping Chris' songs.


Biggie and Pun were rappers, shit like that adds on to their street cred

Michael DID get pulled off of radio stations AND off shelves. I remember when fans couldn't find The Ultimate Collection at several stores at Best Buy and other stores around the world. It wasn't until his acquittal when you could find copies

I don't know about Pete Townsend

Wasn't the Christopher Williams thing a rumor or was it real?
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Reply #147 posted 02/11/09 3:51pm

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Timmy84 said:



But see, I think there's a reason why they've stopped: Rihanna is famous too.

Usually when you're accused of hitting another famous singer, you're not looked on as you used to be. Look at Ike Turner. Hate to compare but after news came out that Ike & Tina had that nasty fight in 1976, Ike Turner's music was banned. I don't know if the Ike & Tina music was taken off radio, but Tina struggled for eight years before they could trust her again due negatively to her connections with Ike.

Compare that to Bobby & Whitney, whose own abusive tiff came AFTER both their careers nosedived. And this was before the reality show, lol.

That said, it does seem unusual they'll just take his music off like that.
I can't get over the fact they are famous. The two of them together couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. confused


So true! lol

Anyway, according to Chris' stylist, he feels bad about what he did to Rihanna:

Chris Brown 'Feels Very Bad,' Says Stylist

By Tiffany McGee and Oliver Jones

Chris Brown, who has not been seen publicly since allegedly assaulting girlfriend Rihanna, is a "good kid" who "feels very bad" about what has happened, his friend and stylist tells PEOPLE exclusively.

"Chris is all right. He's a good kid. He feels very bad that something like this has happened," his longtime wardrobe stylist Mike B. tells PEOPLE.

Another friend echoes that sentiment, telling PEOPLE, "You can tell everybody that Chris really feels bad about the whole situation, about it coming out the way that it happened, the way he went about it, the way she went about it ... it's just a wack situation."

As for what really happened, the friend says the story is "not as bad as everybody is trying to gas it up to be."

After the alleged altercation between the pair on Sunday, Brown was booked on a felony criminal threat charge. A police source with knowledge of the case says Rihanna suffered a black eye as well as a split lip and contusions on her face.

Asked if Brown, 19, and Rihanna, 20, have spoken since the incident, the friend says, "I can't say. Maybe they don't want anybody to know whether they've spoken or not. You have to wait for Chris to say something."

Meanwhile, Brown's older sister Lytell "Tootie" Bundy is saying that the alleged incident was totally out of character for Brown. "He's always been a good boy," Bundy tells Extra. "He's coping ... He's doing as ... as to be expected."

Stylist Mike B. encourages fans to keep Brown and Rihanna in their thoughts. "They're both blessed and we just got to send them our prayers."
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Reply #148 posted 02/11/09 3:51pm

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Timmy84 said:



But see, I think there's a reason why they've stopped: Rihanna is famous too.

Usually when you're accused of hitting another famous singer, you're not looked on as you used to be. Look at Ike Turner. Hate to compare but after news came out that Ike & Tina had that nasty fight in 1976, Ike Turner's music was banned. I don't know if the Ike & Tina music was taken off radio, but Tina struggled for eight years before they could trust her again due negatively to her connections with Ike.

Compare that to Bobby & Whitney, whose own abusive tiff came AFTER both their careers nosedived. And this was before the reality show, lol.

That said, it does seem unusual they'll just take his music off like that.
I can't get over the fact they are famous. The two of them together couldn't carry a tune in a bucket. confused

Same reason why Miley Cyrus, The Jonas Brothers, Taylor Swift and the High School Musical kids sell well.....

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Reply #149 posted 02/11/09 3:53pm

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bboy87 said:

missfee said:

and if people really think its fair that his songs get dropped from radio playlists, then fine....the following artists below songs should be dropped too:

James Brown (domestic abuse)
Ike Turner (domestic abuse)
Jimi Hendrix (domestic abuse)
Notorious BIG (domestic abuse)
Big Pun (domestic abuse)
R. Kelly (child molestation)
MJ (child molestation)
Pete Townsend (child molestation)
Christopher Williams (domestic abuse; but his songs aren't played anyway, lol )
and the list would get longer and longer.

This is why its NOT fair that they are dropping Chris' songs.


Biggie and Pun were rappers, shit like that adds on to their street cred

Michael DID get pulled off of radio stations AND off shelves. I remember when fans couldn't find The Ultimate Collection at several stores at Best Buy and other stores around the world. It wasn't until his acquittal when you could find copies

I don't know about Pete Townsend

Wasn't the Christopher Williams thing a rumor or was it real?


I did remember people pulling Michael's stuff out of stores. There were stories about his career in irreverent disrepair following the charges. After he was acquitted, his music returned to shelves afterwards and record sales again picked up.

Pete's incident didn't change nothing because it was an allegation. Turned out that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute Pete because he didn't even download or possess any images, he just joined through credit card.

The Christopher Williams thing was a rumor and he was a two-hit wonder so no one gave a damn, lol.
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