LondonStyle said: SoulAlive said: SHe could have just walked away, she could have got out of the car,whatever.If She had done that,She wouldn't be in this mess right now. ...p.s. you can't kick someone out of a car...not in the London and i'm damn sure not in LA ... Ummm, according to reports she DID get out the car and some of the battery occurred on the street. So what's your point? Regardless of who started what and did what to whom if the police say her injuries were "horrific" it's obvious that he did a lot more than just slap her. If her injuries are as extensive as they say, I have NO pity on that fool. | |
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LondonStyle said: missfee said: and if people really think its fair that his songs get dropped from radio playlists, then fine....the following artists below songs should be dropped too:
James Brown (domestic abuse) Ike Turner (domestic abuse) Jimi Hendrix (domestic abuse) Notorious BIG (domestic abuse) Big Pun (domestic abuse) R. Kelly (child molestation) MJ (child molestation) Pete Townsend (child molestation) Christopher Williams (domestic abuse; but his songs aren't played anyway, ) and the list would get longer and longer. This is why its NOT fair that they are dropping Chris' songs. Madonna (domestic abuse) ...lets not be sexist...here its the org.. oh thanks, I forgot about that. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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SCNDLS said: LondonStyle said: ...p.s. you can't kick someone out of a car...not in the London and i'm damn sure not in LA ... Ummm, according to reports she DID get out the car and some of the battery occurred on the street. So what's your point? Regardless of who started what and did what to whom if the police say her injuries were "horrific" it's obvious that he did a lot more than just slap her. If her injuries are as extensive as they say, I have NO pity on that fool. Hey i like this word ...IF..... Regardless....I don't like this word.... it means no care...do as I please...should both of them as young role models, as man and woman act Regardless... Let's bomb a country .....Regardless...blameless....no respect... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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Our society is so conditioned to seeing women slap men and nothing comes of it.
Obviously, I don't think men should hit women but I do think when a woman hits a man she should always be aware that there could be a reflexive reaction. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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missfee said: Pete Townsend (child molestation) Eh? Get your facts right. | |
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missfee said: shorttrini said: How are are we prematurely judging him? Obviously something did happen where somebody got hurt and he was involved. His family has a history of abuse, (his step father abused his mother, in front of Chris). As for Rihanna, she once said that her parents used to have violent arguments all of the time. Statistics show that kids that come from abusive homes are 4 times as likely commit abuse themselves. This behavior can lay dormant in a person for years and show up without warning. The reason why it has not shown up until now is probably because, he has not been pushed far enough for it to show up. If he did do it, he should be punished. Celebrity does not and should not protect him the consequences of his actions. I don't feel sorry for him, due to the fact that he should have had enough sense to walk away.
wow, so you were there that night? My guess is NO. Therefore, you don't know what's really going on. And thats all I got to say. So, are you saying that she caused those injuries herself? WOW!! That's interesting. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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Number23 said: missfee said: Pete Townsend (child molestation) Eh? Get your facts right. Oh I'm in the correct arena, it wasn't child molestation, but child porn. Pete Townshend of "The Who" was ACCUSED of looking at Child Pornography on his computer. Look it up.... I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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shorttrini said: missfee said: wow, so you were there that night? My guess is NO. Therefore, you don't know what's really going on. And thats all I got to say. So, are you saying that she caused those injuries herself? WOW!! That's interesting. Obviously you can't read. I said nothing about her injuries, just that you nor I were there to pass to judgement. And from reading your comments, you just told on yourself that NO you weren't there. So my question was answered. Thank You. I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: Number23 said: Eh? Get your facts right. Oh I'm in the correct arena, it wasn't child molestation, but child porn. Pete Townshend of "The Who" was ACCUSED of looking at Child Pornography on his computer. Look it up.... Correct missfee ....and he (pete)nearly killed himself over it... before he was found not guilty....what a waste that would have been! ....lets not forget...he was abused as a kid..... These so called stars are as human as you and me ....and sometimes they crack up like you and me would... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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LondonStyle said: missfee said: Oh I'm in the correct arena, it wasn't child molestation, but child porn. Pete Townshend of "The Who" was ACCUSED of looking at Child Pornography on his computer. Look it up.... Correct missfee ....and he (pete)nearly killed himself over it... before he was found not guilty....what a waste that would have been! ....lets not forget...he was abused as a kid..... These so called stars are as human as you and me ....and sometimes they crack up like you and me would... I will forever love and miss you...my sweet Prince. | |
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missfee said: shorttrini said: So, are you saying that she caused those injuries herself? WOW!! That's interesting. Obviously you can't read. I said nothing about her injuries, just that you nor I were there to pass to judgement. And from reading your comments, you just told on yourself that NO you weren't there. So my question was answered. Thank You. I know that I was not there, but all parties agree that she did suffer injuries. Whether we were there or not, do you think that she caused those injuries, herself. Comprehension is another thing that they teach in school, right after reading....and I do both very well. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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my question is "would he be getting this much heat if the victim wasn't famous?" | |
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MagnificentVoodoo said: my question is "would he be getting this much heat if the victim wasn't famous?"
I don't think so. People feel like they know Rihanna and she certainly has fans so there's a connection not to mention her relationships with other celebs who fans may have (bizarre) loyalties too. There's a connection that wouldn't be there if she were anonymous. Young R&B star assaults girlfriend versus Young R&B star assaults pop star. It makes it more interesting especially since they're both hot, both were to attend Grammys and other shows/performances in just a few weeks. All which have been cancelled or postponed. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: I have to say I'm a little surprised that they stopped playing his music especially when all the facts aren't in.
I don't think there was a skip in rotation of R. Kelly and there was footage of him. co-sign LOVE HARD. | |
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MagnificentVoodoo said: my question is "would he be getting this much heat if the victim wasn't famous?"
Depends ....on age, sex, race, ...shall I go on... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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It't crazy to stop playing his music over this. We don't have any facts. We don't know what happened. All we have right now is a criminal threats charge. I'm not even a Chris Brown fan but this is justs ridiculous. **************************************************
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LondonStyle said: MagnificentVoodoo said: my question is "would he be getting this much heat if the victim wasn't famous?"
Depends ....on age, sex, race, ...shall I go on... Chris Brown assaults elderly blue-eyed boyfriend. Hmmm, yeah that might get people talking a bit. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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RnBAmbassador said: Singer Chris Brown has lost his big money endorsement deals with Wrigley gum and I Got Milk, plus he has been dropped from the NBA All-Star game activities this week and a Valentine's Day show. To add to his woes, many radio stations have decided to remove his music from their station playlists.
What do you think? Has the court of public opinion already judged Brown guilty and his career is now tanked? I think that celebs should be treated like anyone else. Whether they are suspects, victims or witnesses in a situation. Chris Brown made choices that early morning of Sunday, February 8th. Yes he is 19, yes he came from a background of some abuse, but the choices he made were not good ones, or even correct ones. His career is irrelevant at this point. It is only relevant to his staff that he pays, his fanatical fans and to his own ego-drenched self. A person was hurt physically, emotionally and financially. Robyn Rihanna Fenty is a machine, just like Christopher Maurice Brown. Their lifestyles impact many others. Brown should have thought about radio airplay, pitch ads, perosnal appearnces, etrc. whe he decided to become a prize fighter on Feb. 8th. I don't a flying rat's ass what Miss Fenty did, nothing justifies what he did. Yes in America you are supposedly innocent till proven guilty, well sometimes the guilty are found not guilty via political bullshit,and sometimes the innocent get convicted because they were not 'Dream Team' able in their legal representation. I am still shocked that Shyne is in jail and Sean Diddy or whatever she calls herself this week is still free. I am still shocked that O.J. Simpson beat a double murder wrap that he did, and now sit in jail rotting for a kindergarten move type robbery to het his own shit back; I am still pissed that number pisser Robery Kelly is not under the jail for what he did; and I am equallly pissed over Michelle Jackson not getting hisher just fruits for his deeds with lil boys that has gone on for many years. Enough is enough. If Joe Blow had been sought for 18 hours and the victim had the injuries from an ass beating like Rihanna did, this would be a no-brainer. When can anyone of you that follows current events ever seen Mark Geragos be the attorney on a case and he not be all over Larry King Live, TODAY Show, ET, MTV, etc. professing the innocence of his high profile client? From jump, Brown turned himself in at a station where Geragos knew they didn't release mug shots, he also had his private investigator in the backseat with Brown, and the purpose of the p.i. = tear down the victim/accuser. Geragos will run his mouth after the prosecutor's office announces all charges, and then it will be open season on Rihanna. She will be a conniving AIDS infested stalking slut by the time they are through with her - but none of that matters, eh bit the shit out of her, and bit her. She can count her lucky stars that regular citizens saw and heard the altercation, and therefore no spin machine will wash away the reality that Chris Brown, the singer, committed domestic violence on her. So yes he should suffer backlash for if nothing else, being a fraud. [Edited 2/11/09 10:29am] Music Royalty in Motion | |
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I heard a report this morning that Chris did more than just hit her.At one point,he wrapped his hands around her neck and tried to strangle her She has bruises and cuts on her neck.This is alot more than just slapping someone in the face during a heated argument. | |
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RnBAmbassador said: RnBAmbassador said: Singer Chris Brown has lost his big money endorsement deals with Wrigley gum and I Got Milk, plus he has been dropped from the NBA All-Star game activities this week and a Valentine's Day show. To add to his woes, many radio stations have decided to remove his music from their station playlists.
What do you think? Has the court of public opinion already judged Brown guilty and his career is now tanked? I think that celebs should be treated like anyone else. Whether they are suspects, victims or witnesses in a situation. Chris Brown made choices that early morning of Sunday, February 8th. Yes he is 19, yes he came from a background of some abuse, but the choices he made were not good ones, or even correct ones. His career is irrelevant at this point. It is only relevant to his staff that he pays, his fanatical fans and to his own ego-drenched self. A person was hurt physically, emotionally and financially. Robyn Rihanna Fenty is a machine, just like Christopher A. Brown. Their lifestyles impact many others. Brown should have thought about radio airplay, pitch ads, perosnal appearnces, etrc. whe he decided to become a prize fighter on Feb. 8th. I don't a flying rat's ass what Miss Fenty did, nothing justifies what he did. Yes in America you are supposedly innocent till proven guilty, well sometimes the guilty are found not guilty via political bullshit,and sometimes the innocent get convicted because they were not 'Dream Team' able in their legal representation. I am still shocked that Shyne is in jail and Sean Diddy or whatever she calls herself this week is still free. I am still shocked that O.J. Simpson beat a double murder wrap that he did, and now sit in jail rotting for a kindergarten move type robbery to het his own shit back; I am still pissed that number pisser Robery Kelly is not under the jail for what he did; and I am equallly pissed over Michelle Jackson not getting hisher just fruits for his deeds with lil boys that has gone on for many years. Enough is enough. If Joe Blow had been sought for 18 hours and the victim had the injuries from an ass beating like Rihanna did, this would be a no-brainer. When can anyone of you that follows current events ever seen Mark Geragos be the attorney on a case and he not be all over Larry King Live, TODAY Show, ET, MTV, etc. professing the innocence of his high profile client? From jump, Brown turned himself in at a station where Geragos knew they didn't release mug shots, he also had his private investigator in the backseat with Brown, and the purpose of the p.i. = tear down the victim/accuser. Geragos will run his mouth after the prosecutor's office announces all charges, and then it will be open season on Rihanna. She will be a conniving AIDS infested stalking slut by the time they are through with her - but none of that matters, eh bit the shit out of her, and bit her. She can count her lucky stars that regular citizens saw and heard the altercation, and therefore no spin machine will wash away the reality that Chris Brown, the singer, committed domestic violence on her. So yes he should suffer backlash for if nothing else, being a fraud. If it were that open and shut, those charges would have been filed. Right now he is charged with only criminal threats. He is not charged with anything else. The D.A. sent the case back to the detectives for further info which means the evidence is shoddy. He is not even charged with a battery yet and ya'll are ready to lock him up. Gees. Let the man at least be charaged with a crime before we convict him. **************************************************
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illimack said: RnBAmbassador said: I think that celebs should be treated like anyone else. Whether they are suspects, victims or witnesses in a situation. Chris Brown made choices that early morning of Sunday, February 8th. Yes he is 19, yes he came from a background of some abuse, but the choices he made were not good ones, or even correct ones. His career is irrelevant at this point. It is only relevant to his staff that he pays, his fanatical fans and to his own ego-drenched self. A person was hurt physically, emotionally and financially. Robyn Rihanna Fenty is a machine, just like Christopher A. Brown. Their lifestyles impact many others. Brown should have thought about radio airplay, pitch ads, perosnal appearnces, etrc. whe he decided to become a prize fighter on Feb. 8th. I don't a flying rat's ass what Miss Fenty did, nothing justifies what he did. Yes in America you are supposedly innocent till proven guilty, well sometimes the guilty are found not guilty via political bullshit,and sometimes the innocent get convicted because they were not 'Dream Team' able in their legal representation. I am still shocked that Shyne is in jail and Sean Diddy or whatever she calls herself this week is still free. I am still shocked that O.J. Simpson beat a double murder wrap that he did, and now sit in jail rotting for a kindergarten move type robbery to het his own shit back; I am still pissed that number pisser Robery Kelly is not under the jail for what he did; and I am equallly pissed over Michelle Jackson not getting hisher just fruits for his deeds with lil boys that has gone on for many years. Enough is enough. If Joe Blow had been sought for 18 hours and the victim had the injuries from an ass beating like Rihanna did, this would be a no-brainer. When can anyone of you that follows current events ever seen Mark Geragos be the attorney on a case and he not be all over Larry King Live, TODAY Show, ET, MTV, etc. professing the innocence of his high profile client? From jump, Brown turned himself in at a station where Geragos knew they didn't release mug shots, he also had his private investigator in the backseat with Brown, and the purpose of the p.i. = tear down the victim/accuser. Geragos will run his mouth after the prosecutor's office announces all charges, and then it will be open season on Rihanna. She will be a conniving AIDS infested stalking slut by the time they are through with her - but none of that matters, eh bit the shit out of her, and bit her. She can count her lucky stars that regular citizens saw and heard the altercation, and therefore no spin machine will wash away the reality that Chris Brown, the singer, committed domestic violence on her. So yes he should suffer backlash for if nothing else, being a fraud. If it were that open and shut, those charges would have been filed. Right now he is charged with only criminal threats. He is not charged with anything else. The D.A. sent the case back to the detectives for further info which means the evidence is shoddy. He is not even charged with a battery yet and ya'll are ready to lock him up. Gees. Let the man at least be charaged with a crime before we convict him. That is not what that means. It was posted in the other thread that the criminal threats charge is how most DAs pursue domestic abuse cases now waiting to develop the rest of the case before filing the actual battery charges. This is common and not unique to this situation and does not mean that they don't have enough evidence. [Edited 2/11/09 8:44am] | |
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SCNDLS said: illimack said: If it were that open and shut, those charges would have been filed. Right now he is charged with only criminal threats. He is not charged with anything else. The D.A. sent the case back to the detectives for further info which means the evidence is shoddy. He is not even charged with a battery yet and ya'll are ready to lock him up. Gees. Let the man at least be charaged with a crime before we convict him. That is not what that means. It was posted in the other thread that the criminal threats charge is how most DAs pursue domestic abuse cases now waiting to develop the rest of the case before filing the actual battery charges. This is common and not unique to this situation and does not mean that they don't have enough evidence. [Edited 2/11/09 8:44am] What is open and shut? The cases I referenced were 'open shut' and the fukkas walked. Oh please. I was not there that morning, but other regular citizens were and they saw and heard what happened. her injuries speak volumes. I don;t give a damn what a prosecutor, or detective or the media says - Brown beat Fenty's ass! Music Royalty in Motion | |
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SCNDLS said: illimack said: If it were that open and shut, those charges would have been filed. Right now he is charged with only criminal threats. He is not charged with anything else. The D.A. sent the case back to the detectives for further info which means the evidence is shoddy. He is not even charged with a battery yet and ya'll are ready to lock him up. Gees. Let the man at least be charaged with a crime before we convict him. That is not what that means. It was posted in the other thread that the criminal threats charge is how most DAs pursue domestic abuse cases now waiting to develop the rest of the case before filing the actual battery charges. This is common and not unique to this situation and does not mean that they don't have enough evidence. [Edited 2/11/09 8:44am] Not up on US law but their needs to be a third party to confirm or deny the story ...criminal threats must be related i guess to phone calls made between the parties or what a third party could overhear in the street but maybe not see ...it looks like in this case the law will come down on both of them .... ....Yeap both of them .... Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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RnBAmbassador said: SCNDLS said: That is not what that means. It was posted in the other thread that the criminal threats charge is how most DAs pursue domestic abuse cases now waiting to develop the rest of the case before filing the actual battery charges. This is common and not unique to this situation and does not mean that they don't have enough evidence. [Edited 2/11/09 8:44am] What is open and shut? The cases I referenced were 'open shut' and the fukkas walked. Oh please. I was not there that morning, but other regular citizens were and they saw and heard what happened. her injuries speak volumes. I don;t give a damn what a prosecutor, or detective or the media says - Brown beat Fenty's ass! Dude, your ass really needs to calm down cuz I'm not disputing he did it and deserves to be prosecuted. | |
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LondonStyle said: missfee said: and if people really think its fair that his songs get dropped from radio playlists, then fine....the following artists below songs should be dropped too:
James Brown (domestic abuse) Ike Turner (domestic abuse) Jimi Hendrix (domestic abuse) Notorious BIG (domestic abuse) Big Pun (domestic abuse) R. Kelly (child molestation) MJ (child molestation) Pete Townsend (child molestation) Christopher Williams (domestic abuse; but his songs aren't played anyway, ) and the list would get longer and longer. This is why its NOT fair that they are dropping Chris' songs. Madonna (domestic abuse) ...lets not be sexist...here its the org.. When has Madonna ever engaged in any heinous type of domestic violence causing injury to another person? Just the opposite. It was alleged that she was the vicitm of domestic violence during her marriage to Sean Penn, but it was never proven. That never affected Sean Penn's career. As far as Chris Brown, I'm totally against domestic violence, and he should be punished to the full event of the law. But after he does his time and if he shows remorse, he should be given a chance to still have a career. I don't think he should be forever banned from the airwaves. And I definitely don't think he should be banned before he's convicted. I think domestic violence should be handled by the legal system and not by radio stations and concert promoters. | |
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Glindathegood said: LondonStyle said: Madonna (domestic abuse) ...lets not be sexist...here its the org.. When has Madonna ever engaged in any heinous type of domestic violence causing injury to another person? Just the opposite. It was alleged that she was the vicitm of domestic violence during her marriage to Sean Penn, but it was never proven. That never affected Sean Penn's career. As far as Chris Brown, I'm totally against domestic violence, and he should be punished to the full event of the law. But after he does his time and if he shows remorse, he should be given a chance to still have a career. I don't think he should be forever banned from the airwaves. And I definitely don't think he should be banned before he's convicted. I think domestic violence should be handled by the legal system and not by radio stations and concert promoters. Hey since we are all making out judgements from newspaper reports.....Madonna has lets say had a few about the way she treated Guy ...and Madonna would sue the pants of people quick fast in a hurry but she did not .....why? Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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LondonStyle said: Hey since we are all making out judgements from newspaper reports.....Madonna has lets say had a few about the way she treated Guy ...and Madonna would sue the pants of people quick fast in a hurry but she did not .....why? I never read any newspaper that said Madonna beat Guy causing him any type of serious injury in any way similiar to what Chris Brown is alleged to have done to Rihanna. From what I read about Guy and Madonna, they had verbal arguments about religion,kids, their careers, the standard arguments every couple has. And just because you don't sue when a newspaper writes something about you doesn't mean it's true. A lot of celebrities feel it's not worth the time and expense to sue. Tabloids write false things about celebrities all the time and aren't sued. I thikn a lot of celebrites are intelligent to realize that most people don't really believe what the tabloids write anyway and know it's made up. [Edited 2/11/09 9:20am] | |
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SCNDLS said: illimack said: If it were that open and shut, those charges would have been filed. Right now he is charged with only criminal threats. He is not charged with anything else. The D.A. sent the case back to the detectives for further info which means the evidence is shoddy. He is not even charged with a battery yet and ya'll are ready to lock him up. Gees. Let the man at least be charaged with a crime before we convict him. That is not what that means. It was posted in the other thread that the criminal threats charge is how most DAs pursue domestic abuse cases now waiting to develop the rest of the case before filing the actual battery charges. This is common and not unique to this situation and does not mean that they don't have enough evidence. [Edited 2/11/09 8:44am] That is not a true statement. If she has obvious injuries and there is proof that Chris caused them, they would have at least charged him with it on top of the criminal threats. The case being sent back to the detective shows that it is not solid. (Check your org notes). **************************************************
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Yes, it's Fair. Men are still Usually Stronger and Bigger than women and they shouldn't be treating a Woman like a Man and punching them and breaking limbs or Noses. They should be Prosecuted to the Fullest Extent of the Law. He's not a good role model for kids to look up to,but I truly would like to know all the facts of this case. Madonna Was ABUSED by SEAN PENN supposedly he tied her to a Chair and tried to put her head in an oven and LAPD was Called. | |
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