Does Madonna ever credit Donna summer on her early sucess. I mean we all know the reason Donna is not in the Rock N Roll Hall of fame is because of that dirty word DISCO. But why is madonna in it wasn't she Disco and had gay men falling at her feet at one point.

The real Donna Summer fans know that Donna is a Rock Star and True Badass ala Joan jett in Disco Clothing.

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I still hope Donna get in one day. She has a far better chance than nine-times nominated Chic does, lol.

Timmy84 said:

I feel bad cause like dick clark said she is one of the most underrated feamale artist/singer of all time. Thank god for Youtube

Madonna credits Madonna for her success. Yeah, Madonna was a Disco act. But she's white. So they forgive her for her disco phase. The white rock establishment isn't going to legitimize Disco in any way, shape or form. They were threatened by Disco. That's why they had to get rid of it. The Bee Gees got into the RRHOF on the strength of their '60s catalog. The world was not ready for a Black Female Rock Star. And frankly, neither was Donna. Jesus [and David Geffen] had other plans for her.
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I dunno. But they do what they do better than anyone else. For their respective genres of disco and dance-pop, no one has come close.

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

She is

I agreed but the rock N roll hall of fame should be more openminded but then again the whole disco sucks movement came from anti-gays and racist pricks even if it did create some of the best music of the late 70's - 80's
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When exactly was Madonna "Disco"?

Madonna never denied the influence of Donna, she paid homage to her during the opening number of the Confessions Tour in 2006 when she sang a medley of her own "Future Lovers" with Donna's "I Feel Love".
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LiveToTell86 said:

1982.

this type pf music was not called disco but dance.

and although Madonna's first songs were dance, she started her music career with rock/new wave/punk music.

graecophilos said:[quote]this type pf music was not called disco but dance.

and although Madonna's first songs were dance, she started her music career with rock/new wave/punk music.[/quote]

She was straight up dance which was influence by disco, didn't madonna say that people thought she was black when her record came out and that it was a good thing.

The whole Madonna-True Blue era
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graecophilos said:

If I call a pomegranate a chinese apple, that doesn't mean it's not a pomegranate.

graecophilos said:

Donna Summer started her music career with rock/folk music. What's your point?
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tamewar said:[quote]

graecophilos said:

nah, you gotta listen to the pre-fame material.

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

no, dance is not disco. my point is, that Madonna didn't start her career as an disco act.

graecophilos said:

Donna didn't either she started out in a rockband, but found sucess in disco as madonna did

She betta waaaalk now thats a FINE lookin' dame

Call the genre whatever you want, there would be no Madonna without Donna or Debbie Harry.

VoicesCarry said:

I agree.

Hell, Debbie Harry even gives praise to Donna (it's likely mutal sine the rock experiments that Donna did on "The Wanderer" are a bit Blondie-esque).

VinnyM27 said:

New Order also owes their shit to Donna. The beat of Blue Monday was ripped entirely from "Our Love" off the Bad Girls LP.

VinnyM27 said:

Yeah Debbie is a cold-stone donna summer fan, Heart of Glass anyone. And she did say she wanted to duet with her back then that would of be hot better then barbara streisand

Harlepolis said:

Those thighs!

tamewar said:

no, Madonna didn't found success in disco since she never did disco music.

Dance music is just an altered version of the disco sound but it's not disco, though.

And even if you still say M id disco, she did it for only 1 album, and Donna for about 10.

LiveToTell86 said:

she just sampled ABBA.....she DISCO all the way baby...can't get more DISCO than ABBA...

graecophilos said:

That where your wrong, I wouldn't even call Badgirls disco cause if that came out today for any female artist it would truly change music as it did at that time. But to each it own. Like someone said above if it wasn't for donna there wouldn't be a Madonna

LondonStyle said:

Abba had a few disco-like songs but they were no disco band either.
Dancing Queen was an attempt to copy Rock You Baby, but if you own the Arrival album you'll see it's the only "disco" song.

The only album that had a disco vibe is Voulez Vou, but even then they brought in their Scandinavian coolness. (Gimme Gimme Gimme was from the same period)

Abba had some fast songs, but they were rarely disco

tamewar said:

well, did I ever say Donna was a disco act? She had electro, vaudeville and rock influences at all.
I just say that Madonna didn't do disco music.

tamewar said:

Yeah, Bad Girls really wasn't a disco record, at least not in the sense that Love To Love You Baby was. There were ballads, the beginnings of electropop, some rock, it was really not a disco record period.

graecophilos said:

That little dance screams disco even has the lights

Truth be told if madonna came out during donna era she would of been label true disco. If debbie and madonna in the hall why not Donna i mean billy joel,bruce springsteen,Bob Dylan all had show respect to her. It just so unfair

It doesn't matter cause the true donna fans know she made it cool to be a sexy badass chick.


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This thread is funny There is always so much confusion and debate about what makes a song a "disco" song.I have dozens of disco compilations and some of the songs on these compilations are not what I would classify as "disco".Furthermore,in the late 70s,the line between "disco" and "R&B" was incredibly thin anyway.Many people insist that Madonna's first album is disco but I'd rather not get into that debate,lol.

SoulAlive said:

Because back then it was uncool for people to like disco The Shock

I'll never get why people say any of Madonnas early albums were disco or r'n'b. There may be just a hint of it in Everbody but other than that the first two albums just sound like pure 80's synthesized pop.

And another thing I'll never get (although it's a completely different topic) is why people (generally Madonna fans) seem to love and praise her first album yet hate Like a Virgin. They've got the exact same sound and the same amount of good and bad songs. You could interchange the songs easily
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