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Synching: necessity or artistic deception?

at 20:50 on February 6, 2009, EDT.
By Jocelyn Noveck, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK - Jennifer Hudson and Faith Hill performed to recorded tracks at the Super Bowl.

Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman did it at President Barack Obama's inauguration. Aretha Franklin sang live - but she's releasing a do-over. And Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, said one report, also played to a recorded track at the Super Bowl, though the vocals were live.

All in the name of perfection. It's enough to make one feel sorry for Chief Justice John Roberts and his flubbed presidential oath. Couldn't he have just prerecorded the darned thing, too?

Recorded tracks are hardly a new phenomenon at huge events like the Super Bowl, not to mention the concerts of certain pop stars (the name Britney comes to mind.) But in the last few weeks, a flurry of attention has focused on the practice, first with the inaugural flap and then the Super Bowl.

And though it's hardly Watergate, or Milli Vanilli, either - remember, they were synching to OTHER people's voices - some fans are debating anew whether it's an acceptable practice or an artistic deception.

For the inauguration, the reason for the recorded tracks was clear - the weather - though purists may still consider it a horror that cellist Ma, violinist Perlman and two other musicians were essentially finger-synching (actually, they played but it was a recording that was projected to the world.)

The Washington air was below freezing, meaning instruments could possibly break or at least go out of tune. Pianist Gabriela Montero said a day before the inauguration, about a half-dozen keys on the Steinway were sticking.

Imagine if the musicians had played out of tune, Montero said.

"Can you imagine what kind of tone it would have set?"

One avid fan of classical music wasn't bothered at all.

"I was relieved," said Elisabeth Avery, 55, who watched on TV.

"At the beginning I thought: 'Are they crazy? They're gonna play those instruments in that weather?"

Gradually, she came to realize the music was not live.

"I don't like deception but somehow I didn't feel deceived," said Avery, of New York City.

"It's REALLY hard to play when it's cold."

Avery did, however, find it a little dishonest that Jennifer Hudson's stirring national anthem at the Super Bowl was performed to a recording.

"My goodness, if you're an artist, can't you just get up and sing?"

Avery also wonders what might have happened "if a coyote had suddenly run across the field, or if someone had fainted in front of her."

"Would she have just kept on singing?"

Pre-game show producer Rickey Minor said at the time that to ensure the quality of the performance, he'd insisted Hudson and Faith Hill, who sang "America the Beautiful," use their recorded tracks. Hudson's publicist, Jessica Kolstad, said the singer's microphone was on and she was singing to the track at the request of producers.

Many singers have used backup tracks at Super Bowls, including Whitney Houston's acclaimed performance in 1991. As talented as a singer can be, it's extremely difficult to perform optimally in a stadium, said Andy Greene, assistant editor of Rolling Stone magazine.

"The delay is terrible. The sound bounces back. It's a nightmare," Greene said.

Plus, when you're playing to a crowd of that magnitude and a TV audience, "you want it to be perfect," said Greene.

"It's the biggest crowd these performers have ever played to, bar none," he said.

"It's the worst possible conditions for the most visible performance of your career."

Which is why the practice of using recorded tracks is "sort of this dirty little secret of the industry," Greene said.

"It's been going on for years but many people are just learning about it."

Don Mischer, longtime producer of Super Bowl shows, said many artists "absolutely want to go with prerecorded tracks because they worked hard to create a sound and they want their fans to hear the music the way they intended it."

"It's not as if somebody else were playing it," he said.

Hudson and Hill may not have been the only artists singing to a track at the Super Bowl - the Chicago Tribune newspaper reported Springsteen's E Street Band was also using a track, although the Boss himself was singing live. Publicists for Springsteen did not respond to several requests for comment.

Whether Springsteen's beloved band used a recorded track or not, it seems Aretha Franklin may have wished she had one at the inauguration.

The soul superstar, who was dissatisfied with her live performance of "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" in the frigid January weather, announced Thursday she'd recorded a "preferred version" to be released this week.

But David Rubeo, a fan of Franklin's in New York City, has no need for the preferred version - HIS preferred version is the live one.

"It was so much more exciting to watch her live," said Rubeo, 40, who works at a social services agency.

"If there are imperfections, that's fine. It's all part of the excitement."

Until the recent attention to the inauguration and the Super Bowl, Rubeo wasn't aware of how common recorded tracks are at outdoor events. He understood why the classical musicians in Washington didn't go live but as for the Super Bowl, he would have preferred to see Hudson totally live.

"Part of the fun is the unpredictability," he said.

Music writer Matthew Gurewitsch can't understand the fuss over recorded tracks.

Both the inauguration and the Super Bowl, he said, are "not real musical events - it's all just window-dressing."

"It's easy to get very worked up and indignant but part of show business is the willing suspension of disbelief," said Gurewitsch, who analyzes music on his website, beyondcriticism.com.

"We go to the movies and we see the special effects and don't feel cheated," he said.

"It's all part of the illusion that is show business."


©The Canadian Press, 2009

Definately deception. I don't want to pay good money to see someone "mouth the words". Even a monkey can do that.
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Reply #1 posted 02/06/09 10:30pm

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at 20:50 on February 6, 2009, EDT.
By Jocelyn Noveck, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK - Jennifer Hudson and Faith Hill performed to recorded tracks at the Super Bowl.

Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman did it at President Barack Obama's inauguration. Aretha Franklin sang live - but she's releasing a do-over. And Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, said one report, also played to a recorded track at the Super Bowl, though the vocals were live.

All in the name of perfection. It's enough to make one feel sorry for Chief Justice John Roberts and his flubbed presidential oath. Couldn't he have just prerecorded the darned thing, too?

Recorded tracks are hardly a new phenomenon at huge events like the Super Bowl, not to mention the concerts of certain pop stars (the name Britney comes to mind.) But in the last few weeks, a flurry of attention has focused on the practice, first with the inaugural flap and then the Super Bowl.

And though it's hardly Watergate, or Milli Vanilli, either - remember, they were synching to OTHER people's voices - some fans are debating anew whether it's an acceptable practice or an artistic deception.

For the inauguration, the reason for the recorded tracks was clear - the weather - though purists may still consider it a horror that cellist Ma, violinist Perlman and two other musicians were essentially finger-synching (actually, they played but it was a recording that was projected to the world.)

The Washington air was below freezing, meaning instruments could possibly break or at least go out of tune. Pianist Gabriela Montero said a day before the inauguration, about a half-dozen keys on the Steinway were sticking.

Imagine if the musicians had played out of tune, Montero said.

"Can you imagine what kind of tone it would have set?"

One avid fan of classical music wasn't bothered at all.

"I was relieved," said Elisabeth Avery, 55, who watched on TV.

"At the beginning I thought: 'Are they crazy? They're gonna play those instruments in that weather?"

Gradually, she came to realize the music was not live.

"I don't like deception but somehow I didn't feel deceived," said Avery, of New York City.

"It's REALLY hard to play when it's cold."

Avery did, however, find it a little dishonest that Jennifer Hudson's stirring national anthem at the Super Bowl was performed to a recording.

"My goodness, if you're an artist, can't you just get up and sing?"

Avery also wonders what might have happened "if a coyote had suddenly run across the field, or if someone had fainted in front of her."

"Would she have just kept on singing?"

Pre-game show producer Rickey Minor said at the time that to ensure the quality of the performance, he'd insisted Hudson and Faith Hill, who sang "America the Beautiful," use their recorded tracks. Hudson's publicist, Jessica Kolstad, said the singer's microphone was on and she was singing to the track at the request of producers.

Many singers have used backup tracks at Super Bowls, including Whitney Houston's acclaimed performance in 1991. As talented as a singer can be, it's extremely difficult to perform optimally in a stadium, said Andy Greene, assistant editor of Rolling Stone magazine.

"The delay is terrible. The sound bounces back. It's a nightmare," Greene said.

Plus, when you're playing to a crowd of that magnitude and a TV audience, "you want it to be perfect," said Greene.

"It's the biggest crowd these performers have ever played to, bar none," he said.

"It's the worst possible conditions for the most visible performance of your career."

Which is why the practice of using recorded tracks is "sort of this dirty little secret of the industry," Greene said.

"It's been going on for years but many people are just learning about it."

Don Mischer, longtime producer of Super Bowl shows, said many artists "absolutely want to go with prerecorded tracks because they worked hard to create a sound and they want their fans to hear the music the way they intended it."

"It's not as if somebody else were playing it," he said.

Hudson and Hill may not have been the only artists singing to a track at the Super Bowl - the Chicago Tribune newspaper reported Springsteen's E Street Band was also using a track, although the Boss himself was singing live. Publicists for Springsteen did not respond to several requests for comment.

Whether Springsteen's beloved band used a recorded track or not, it seems Aretha Franklin may have wished she had one at the inauguration.

The soul superstar, who was dissatisfied with her live performance of "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" in the frigid January weather, announced Thursday she'd recorded a "preferred version" to be released this week.

But David Rubeo, a fan of Franklin's in New York City, has no need for the preferred version - HIS preferred version is the live one.

"It was so much more exciting to watch her live," said Rubeo, 40, who works at a social services agency.

"If there are imperfections, that's fine. It's all part of the excitement."

Until the recent attention to the inauguration and the Super Bowl, Rubeo wasn't aware of how common recorded tracks are at outdoor events. He understood why the classical musicians in Washington didn't go live but as for the Super Bowl, he would have preferred to see Hudson totally live.

"Part of the fun is the unpredictability," he said.

Music writer Matthew Gurewitsch can't understand the fuss over recorded tracks.

Both the inauguration and the Super Bowl, he said, are "not real musical events - it's all just window-dressing."

"It's easy to get very worked up and indignant but part of show business is the willing suspension of disbelief," said Gurewitsch, who analyzes music on his website, beyondcriticism.com.

"We go to the movies and we see the special effects and don't feel cheated," he said.

"It's all part of the illusion that is show business."


©The Canadian Press, 2009

Definately deception. I don't want to pay good money to see someone "mouth the words". Even a monkey can do that.



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Reply #2 posted 02/06/09 10:32pm

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luv4u said:

at 20:50 on February 6, 2009, EDT.
By Jocelyn Noveck, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

NEW YORK - Jennifer Hudson and Faith Hill performed to recorded tracks at the Super Bowl.

Yo-Yo Ma and Itzhak Perlman did it at President Barack Obama's inauguration. Aretha Franklin sang live - but she's releasing a do-over. And Bruce Springsteen's E Street Band, said one report, also played to a recorded track at the Super Bowl, though the vocals were live.

All in the name of perfection. It's enough to make one feel sorry for Chief Justice John Roberts and his flubbed presidential oath. Couldn't he have just prerecorded the darned thing, too?

Recorded tracks are hardly a new phenomenon at huge events like the Super Bowl, not to mention the concerts of certain pop stars (the name Britney comes to mind.) But in the last few weeks, a flurry of attention has focused on the practice, first with the inaugural flap and then the Super Bowl.

And though it's hardly Watergate, or Milli Vanilli, either - remember, they were synching to OTHER people's voices - some fans are debating anew whether it's an acceptable practice or an artistic deception.

For the inauguration, the reason for the recorded tracks was clear - the weather - though purists may still consider it a horror that cellist Ma, violinist Perlman and two other musicians were essentially finger-synching (actually, they played but it was a recording that was projected to the world.)

The Washington air was below freezing, meaning instruments could possibly break or at least go out of tune. Pianist Gabriela Montero said a day before the inauguration, about a half-dozen keys on the Steinway were sticking.

Imagine if the musicians had played out of tune, Montero said.

"Can you imagine what kind of tone it would have set?"

One avid fan of classical music wasn't bothered at all.

"I was relieved," said Elisabeth Avery, 55, who watched on TV.

"At the beginning I thought: 'Are they crazy? They're gonna play those instruments in that weather?"

Gradually, she came to realize the music was not live.

"I don't like deception but somehow I didn't feel deceived," said Avery, of New York City.

"It's REALLY hard to play when it's cold."

Avery did, however, find it a little dishonest that Jennifer Hudson's stirring national anthem at the Super Bowl was performed to a recording.

"My goodness, if you're an artist, can't you just get up and sing?"

Avery also wonders what might have happened "if a coyote had suddenly run across the field, or if someone had fainted in front of her."

"Would she have just kept on singing?"

Pre-game show producer Rickey Minor said at the time that to ensure the quality of the performance, he'd insisted Hudson and Faith Hill, who sang "America the Beautiful," use their recorded tracks. Hudson's publicist, Jessica Kolstad, said the singer's microphone was on and she was singing to the track at the request of producers.

Many singers have used backup tracks at Super Bowls, including Whitney Houston's acclaimed performance in 1991. As talented as a singer can be, it's extremely difficult to perform optimally in a stadium, said Andy Greene, assistant editor of Rolling Stone magazine.

"The delay is terrible. The sound bounces back. It's a nightmare," Greene said.

Plus, when you're playing to a crowd of that magnitude and a TV audience, "you want it to be perfect," said Greene.

"It's the biggest crowd these performers have ever played to, bar none," he said.

"It's the worst possible conditions for the most visible performance of your career."

Which is why the practice of using recorded tracks is "sort of this dirty little secret of the industry," Greene said.

"It's been going on for years but many people are just learning about it."

Don Mischer, longtime producer of Super Bowl shows, said many artists "absolutely want to go with prerecorded tracks because they worked hard to create a sound and they want their fans to hear the music the way they intended it."

"It's not as if somebody else were playing it," he said.

Hudson and Hill may not have been the only artists singing to a track at the Super Bowl - the Chicago Tribune newspaper reported Springsteen's E Street Band was also using a track, although the Boss himself was singing live. Publicists for Springsteen did not respond to several requests for comment.

Whether Springsteen's beloved band used a recorded track or not, it seems Aretha Franklin may have wished she had one at the inauguration.

The soul superstar, who was dissatisfied with her live performance of "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" in the frigid January weather, announced Thursday she'd recorded a "preferred version" to be released this week.

But David Rubeo, a fan of Franklin's in New York City, has no need for the preferred version - HIS preferred version is the live one.

"It was so much more exciting to watch her live," said Rubeo, 40, who works at a social services agency.

"If there are imperfections, that's fine. It's all part of the excitement."

Until the recent attention to the inauguration and the Super Bowl, Rubeo wasn't aware of how common recorded tracks are at outdoor events. He understood why the classical musicians in Washington didn't go live but as for the Super Bowl, he would have preferred to see Hudson totally live.

"Part of the fun is the unpredictability," he said.

Music writer Matthew Gurewitsch can't understand the fuss over recorded tracks.

Both the inauguration and the Super Bowl, he said, are "not real musical events - it's all just window-dressing."

"It's easy to get very worked up and indignant but part of show business is the willing suspension of disbelief," said Gurewitsch, who analyzes music on his website, beyondcriticism.com.

"We go to the movies and we see the special effects and don't feel cheated," he said.

"It's all part of the illusion that is show business."


©The Canadian Press, 2009

Definately deception. I don't want to pay good money to see someone "mouth the words". Even a monkey can do that.



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Reply #4 posted 02/06/09 11:19pm

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I admit, I skimmed that instead of reading it.
My 2 cents - it depends on the type of show you put on.
Janet lip-synced parts of the Velvet Rope tour and it was one of the best shows I've seen (and I've seen a LOT of shows).
If you have a band that does a lot of extended jams then of course not but if you have a show that has a lot of theater to it, I think SOME lip-syncing is okay for the sake of entertainment. I think its more important that the audience get their money's worth. As long as there is a BALANCE, its cool. If you lip-sync an entire show, you're cheating your audience no matter how entertaining it is. You have to give SOME of yourself or else you're not truly connecting with the audience.
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Reply #5 posted 02/07/09 12:52am

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I didn't read the article either, but I know that in the case of "artists" like Janet Jackson and Britney Spears....hell, even Michael Jackson (don't come after me, I know he plays instruments!!!!!), it seems to be a necessity because they do a lot of dancing around, so it would be difficult for them to sing live. Take into account that first off, they'd have to actually hold the mic in their hands, and also, the fact that after a while they'd be running out of breath. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning anybody tryin to be the next Milli Vanilli - especially when you've paid X amount of dollars to see them in concert, but I'm just sayin...sometimes they've gotta do it...or at least they themselves feel that it is necessary.

Also, if you look at that "Dangerous" concert" that Michael did back in the '90s, he must've had the flu or something, cuz when his mic was actually plugged in, he didn't sound too good. So, again it was necessary for him to mime the words....or so he probably thought.
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