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PrintableGraycap23 said: SCNDLS said: I remember everybody in my neighborhood thought Madonna was black.  Nobody in my hood listened 2 Madonna..... Well, we listened to the radio back then and folks assumed she was a sista. Not sure why tho. | |
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SCNDLS said: . Not sure why tho.
Me either..... | |
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SCNDLS said: Graycap23 said: Nobody in my hood listened 2 Madonna..... Well, we listened to the radio back then and folks assumed she was a sista. Not sure why tho. I remember her very first song was called "Everybody" and it was a 12 Inch Single in 1982 long before her first album came out. "Everybody" was played on the R&B stations only and we all just assumed she was black. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: I remember her very first song was called "Everybody" and it was a 12 Inch Single in 1982 long before her first album came out. "Everybody" was played on the R&B stations only and we all just assumed she was black. lol.....Madonna could sound black if u dipped her in tar. | |
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Graycap23 said: vainandy said: I remember her very first song was called "Everybody" and it was a 12 Inch Single in 1982 long before her first album came out. "Everybody" was played on the R&B stations only and we all just assumed she was black. lol.....Madonna could sound black if u dipped her in tar. I think it was more the music on that song than the voice. The music had kind of an underground "dance music" feel to it. White stations wouldn't touch anything that had a dance feel to it because they were still hating disco which had "died" a few years earlier (to let them tell it) but black stations embraced some of the "dance" artists such as Freeeze. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Graycap23 said: vainandy said: I remember her very first song was called "Everybody" and it was a 12 Inch Single in 1982 long before her first album came out. "Everybody" was played on the R&B stations only and we all just assumed she was black. lol.....Madonna could sound black if u dipped her in tar. ....but true..Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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vainandy said: I remember her very first song was called "Everybody" and it was a 12 Inch Single in 1982 long before her first album came out. "Everybody" was played on the R&B stations only and we all just assumed she was black.  That's exactly the song that had us thinking she was black. When she showed her lily white hide on American Bandstand we was shocked. Still loves me some Madonna though.  | |
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The first time I heard "Holiday" in late 1983,I thought it was a new black singer  Our local R&B radio station played that song to death,along with "Lucky Star".I think alot of people probably thought she was black. | |
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SoulAlive said: The first time I heard "Holiday" in late 1983,I thought it was a new black singer
Our local R&B radio station played that song to death,along with "Lucky Star".I think alot of people probably thought she was black.Wow.....I'm shocked by this. I've never heard a single person say they ever though Madonna was Black. I guess u learn something new everyday. | |
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like Vainandy said,it had more to do with the "sound" of the record.People heard her first few singles on R&B stations before they even saw her record cover or videos.Pop radio didn't really embrace Madonna until "Borderline". | |
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SoulAlive said: damosuzuki said: What jumps out at me is how much melody has declined in pop music from '84 to where we are today in favour of rhythm & production techniques. I like a lot of the songs on this list, & absolutely love a few of them (jump, owner of a lonely heart) - but even on the tracks I don't care for I think I would have to say that almost every one of them has a clear, memorable melody. I'm not totally clued into the top 40 anymore, but I'm pretty sure you couldn't say that about this week's list.
Exactly! Back in the day,songs had a clear,memorable melody. And because of that, they are much more memorable. I don't see many songs today having long lives as recurrents in the future. | |
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newpower99 said: Billboard Hot 100 - Feb 9, 1984
1 1 Culture Club Karma Chameleon You know, I was all set to rail against the current state of pop music; and how the music of yore must be superior to today's music. I was pretty sure that I knew without a doubt, that what was popular a generation ago, was artistically superior. I was Wrong. The number one song in the county today is Kelly Clarkson's "My Life Would Suck Without You" and honestly, I don't think it's an inferior piece of art when compared to "Karma Chameleon." Both are passable songs - granted, Boy George infuses his number one hit with much more individuality and personal expression (Clarkson's singing, although she's obviously talented, remains faceless and without a trace of personal expression) but as a songwriter, I'm searching to find traces of superior craftsmanship in the former and it's a struggle. Both are equal in terms of artistic merit, in my opinion. | |
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newpower99 said: Billboard Hot 100 - Feb 9, 1984
1 1 Culture Club Karma Chameleon 2 4 Kool & the Gang Joanna 3 3 The Romantics Talking In Your Sleep 4 2 Yes Owner Of A Lonely Heart 5 11 Van Halen Jump 6 8 Genesis That s All 7 7 Lionel Richie Running With The Night 8 10 John Mellencamp Pink Houses 9 9 Christopher Cross Think Of Laura 10 6 Elton John I Guess That s Why They Call It The Blues 11 5 Matthew Wilder Break My Stride 12 18 Nena 99 Luftballons 13 14 Shannon Let The Music Play 14 15 Billy Joel An Innocent Man 15 21 Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Want To Have Fun 16 12 Ray Parker Jr. I Still Can t Get Over Loving You 17 22 John Lennon Nobody Told Me 18 19 The Police Wrapped Around Your Finger 19 20 Pretenders Middle Of The Road 20 0 Michael Jackson Thriller 21 23 James Ingram With Michael McDonald Yah Mo B There 22 16 Madonna Holiday 23 24 Paul McCartney So Bad 24 13 Paul McCartney And Michael Jackson Say Say Say 25 29 Duran Duran New Moon On Monday 26 31 Huey Lewis I Want A New Drug 27 32 Christine McVie Got A Hold On Me 28 39 Eurythmics Here Comes The Rain Again 29 30 Real Life Send Me An Angel 30 17 Olivia Newton-John Twist Of Fate 31 35 Quiet Riot Bang Your Head (Metal Health) 32 36 Kenny Rogers This Woman 33 52 Rockwell Somebody s Watching Me 34 33 Stevie Nicks Nightbird 35 37 K.C. Give It Up 36 41 Kenny Loggins Footloose 37 38 Irene Cara The Dream 38 42 Sheena Easton Almost Over You 39 59 Dan Fogelberg The Language Of Love 40 63 The Pointer Sisters Automatic It's official. I'm old as hell. I know over 80% of the songs on this list and the songs I don't know, I know I've at least heard of the artist that sings them.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I'll play it first and tell you what it is later. -Miles Davis- | |
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bboy87 said: I hate all of you who were able to enjoy 1984
Ah...my senior year (Hayward High class of 1984!!!). Great music and great times. And the summer of 1984 was off the hook being a huge Prince fan back then  ."Always blessings, never losses......"
Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!  I'm a guy!!!!
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Great week in music from a great year!!! I was in the 6th grade and I remember all of the songs...
40 63 The Pointer Sisters Automatic 3 3 The Romantics Talking In Your Sleep 7 7 Lionel Richie Running With The Night 15 21 Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Want To Have Fun 28 39 Eurythmics Here Comes The Rain Again 30 17 Olivia Newton-John Twist Of Fate 29 30 Real Life Send Me An Angel 22 16 Madonna Holiday 13 14 Shannon Let The Music Play 17 22 John Lennon Nobody Told Me 34 33 Stevie Nicks Nightbird 38 42 Sheena Easton Almost Over You |
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to go with it ...the album chart from this week in 1984
1 1 Michael Jackson Thriller 2 2 Culture Club Colour By Numbers 3 3 Lionel Richie Can t Slow Down 4 4 Van Halen 1984 5 5 Yes 90125 6 6 The Police Synchronicity 7 8 Billy Joel An Innocent Man 8 10 Duran Duran Seven And The Ragged Tiger 9 7 Daryl Hall John Oates Rock n Soul, Part 1 10 25 Pretenders Learning To Crawl 11 11 John Mellencamp Uh Huh 12 9 Linda Ronstadt What s New 13 12 Quiet Riot Metal Health 14 14 Genesis Genesis 15 15 The Romantics In Heat 16 13 ZZ Top Eliminator 17 18 Huey Lewis Sports 18 17 Def Leppard Pyromania 19 19 Ozzy Osbourne Bark At The Moon 20 21 Soundtrack The Big Chill 21 23 Motley Crue Shout At The Devil 22 22 Thirty Eight Special Tour De Force 23 16 Barbra Streisand Yentl 24 20 Kenny Rogers Eyes That See In The Dark 25 42 Judas Priest Defenders Of The Faith 26 55 Eurythmics Touch 27 29 Elton John Too Low For Zero 28 28 U2 Under A Blood Red Sky 29 27 Midnight Star No Parking On The Dance Floor 30 49 Cyndi Lauper She s So Unusual 31 33 Jeffrey Osborne Stay With Me Tonight 32 36 Luther Vandross Busy Body 33 24 Air Supply Greatest Hits 34 35 Kool In The Heart 35 30 Paul McCartney Pipes Of Peace 36 26 John Travolta Two Of A Kind 37 38 Debarge In A Special Way 38 31 Soundtrack Flashdance 39 John Lennon And Yoko Ono Milk And Honey 40 32 The Rolling Stones Undercover | |
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I could bold pretty much that whole chart. I love that whole era of music. My memory sorta starts around this point. | |
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SoulAlive said: like Vainandy said,it had more to do with the "sound" of the record.People heard her first few singles on R&B stations before they even saw her record cover or videos.Pop radio didn't really embrace Madonna until "Borderline".
I guess I must "listen" 2 records differently than most folks. I listen 2 all of the elements of a record. Her voice sounds like what she is.....and Black AIN'T it. | |
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Graycap23 said: SoulAlive said: like Vainandy said,it had more to do with the "sound" of the record.People heard her first few singles on R&B stations before they even saw her record cover or videos.Pop radio didn't really embrace Madonna until "Borderline".
I guess I must "listen" 2 records differently than most folks. I listen 2 all of the elements of a record. Her voice sounds like what she is.....and Black AIN'T it. The voice is the last thing I notice in music unless the person sounds extremely horrible like Biz Markie singing "Youuuuu....you got what I neeeeed....Ooooooh baby youuuuu". Other than that, the bassline, drums, handclaps, or any of the other ass shakin' elements usually catch my ear first.Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Well i said it before but i will say it again, the charts from them show HOW those times were, free to do what you wanted, showed the mainstream filters of music let everything go, there was no AGE-ISM, you could have a 40+ year old on the radio without it being an oldies or LITE station. And you had diversity, you didnt have the consolidation of music that PRINCE spoke of (and everyone said he was preaching, but hey, it was truth) you will NEVER EVER again have the mixtures that we once had, its over, we are more now "put into boxes and categories" than ever before, there was far more freedom then than now. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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newpower99 said: to go with it ...the album chart from this week in 1984
1 1 Michael Jackson Thriller 2 2 Culture Club Colour By Numbers 3 3 Lionel Richie Can t Slow Down 4 4 Van Halen 1984 5 5 Yes 90125 6 6 The Police Synchronicity 7 8 Billy Joel An Innocent Man 8 10 Duran Duran Seven And The Ragged Tiger 9 7 Daryl Hall John Oates Rock n Soul, Part 1 10 25 Pretenders Learning To Crawl 11 11 John Mellencamp Uh Huh 12 9 Linda Ronstadt What s New 13 12 Quiet Riot Metal Health 14 14 Genesis Genesis 15 15 The Romantics In Heat 16 13 ZZ Top Eliminator 17 18 Huey Lewis Sports 18 17 Def Leppard Pyromania 19 19 Ozzy Osbourne Bark At The Moon 20 21 Soundtrack The Big Chill 21 23 Motley Crue Shout At The Devil 22 22 Thirty Eight Special Tour De Force 23 16 Barbra Streisand Yentl 24 20 Kenny Rogers Eyes That See In The Dark 25 42 Judas Priest Defenders Of The Faith 26 55 Eurythmics Touch 27 29 Elton John Too Low For Zero 28 28 U2 Under A Blood Red Sky 29 27 Midnight Star No Parking On The Dance Floor 30 49 Cyndi Lauper She s So Unusual 31 33 Jeffrey Osborne Stay With Me Tonight 32 36 Luther Vandross Busy Body 33 24 Air Supply Greatest Hits 34 35 Kool In The Heart 35 30 Paul McCartney Pipes Of Peace 36 26 John Travolta Two Of A Kind 37 38 Debarge In A Special Way 38 31 Soundtrack Flashdance 39 John Lennon And Yoko Ono Milk And Honey 40 32 The Rolling Stones Undercover Hmm isnt it interesting that the albums and singles getting played were mirroring themselves back then.....and today...HA! "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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newpower99 said: 1 1 Culture Club Karma Chameleon 2 4 Kool & the Gang Joanna 3 3 The Romantics Talking In Your Sleep 4 2 Yes Owner Of A Lonely Heart 5 11 Van Halen Jump 6 8 Genesis That s All 7 7 Lionel Richie Running With The Night 8 10 John Mellencamp Pink Houses 9 9 Christopher Cross Think Of Laura 10 6 Elton John I Guess That s Why They Call It The Blues 11 5 Matthew Wilder Break My Stride 12 18 Nena 99 Luftballons 13 14 Shannon Let The Music Play 14 15 Billy Joel An Innocent Man 15 21 Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Want To Have Fun 16 12 Ray Parker Jr. I Still Can t Get Over Loving You 17 22 John Lennon Nobody Told Me 18 19 The Police Wrapped Around Your Finger 19 20 Pretenders Middle Of The Road 20 0 Michael Jackson Thriller 21 23 James Ingram With Michael McDonald Yah Mo B There 22 16 Madonna Holiday 23 24 Paul McCartney So Bad 24 13 Paul McCartney And Michael Jackson Say Say Say 25 29 Duran Duran New Moon On Monday 26 31 Huey Lewis I Want A New Drug 27 32 Christine McVie Got A Hold On Me 28 39 Eurythmics Here Comes The Rain Again 29 30 Real Life Send Me An Angel 30 17 Olivia Newton-John Twist Of Fate 31 35 Quiet Riot Bang Your Head (Metal Health) 32 36 Kenny Rogers This Woman 33 52 Rockwell Somebody s Watching Me 34 33 Stevie Nicks Nightbird 35 37 K.C. Give It Up 36 41 Kenny Loggins Footloose 37 38 Irene Cara The Dream 38 42 Sheena Easton Almost Over You 39 59 Dan Fogelberg The Language Of Love 40 63 The Pointer Sisters Automatic I've heard every song on that list and I like most of them. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Graycap23 said: SoulAlive said: The first time I heard "Holiday" in late 1983,I thought it was a new black singer
Our local R&B radio station played that song to death,along with "Lucky Star".I think alot of people probably thought she was black.Wow.....I'm shocked by this. I've never heard a single person say they ever though Madonna was Black. I guess u learn something new everyday. I can't believe this has never been mentioned before up in here.  But yeah the first few singles had us in doubt. My fave song from her early years though was Burning Up. I loved how her stank ass was rolling around on the pavement.  | |
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Ifsixwuz9 said: newpower99 said: Billboard Hot 100 - Feb 9, 1984
1 1 Culture Club Karma Chameleon 2 4 Kool & the Gang Joanna 3 3 The Romantics Talking In Your Sleep 4 2 Yes Owner Of A Lonely Heart 5 11 Van Halen Jump 6 8 Genesis That s All 7 7 Lionel Richie Running With The Night 8 10 John Mellencamp Pink Houses 9 9 Christopher Cross Think Of Laura 10 6 Elton John I Guess That s Why They Call It The Blues 11 5 Matthew Wilder Break My Stride 12 18 Nena 99 Luftballons 13 14 Shannon Let The Music Play 14 15 Billy Joel An Innocent Man 15 21 Cyndi Lauper Girls Just Want To Have Fun 16 12 Ray Parker Jr. I Still Can t Get Over Loving You 17 22 John Lennon Nobody Told Me 18 19 The Police Wrapped Around Your Finger 19 20 Pretenders Middle Of The Road 20 0 Michael Jackson Thriller 21 23 James Ingram With Michael McDonald Yah Mo B There 22 16 Madonna Holiday 23 24 Paul McCartney So Bad 24 13 Paul McCartney And Michael Jackson Say Say Say 25 29 Duran Duran New Moon On Monday 26 31 Huey Lewis I Want A New Drug 27 32 Christine McVie Got A Hold On Me 28 39 Eurythmics Here Comes The Rain Again 29 30 Real Life Send Me An Angel 30 17 Olivia Newton-John Twist Of Fate 31 35 Quiet Riot Bang Your Head (Metal Health) 32 36 Kenny Rogers This Woman 33 52 Rockwell Somebody s Watching Me 34 33 Stevie Nicks Nightbird 35 37 K.C. Give It Up 36 41 Kenny Loggins Footloose 37 38 Irene Cara The Dream 38 42 Sheena Easton Almost Over You 39 59 Dan Fogelberg The Language Of Love 40 63 The Pointer Sisters Automatic It's official. I'm old as hell. I know over 80% of the songs on this list and the songs I don't know, I know I've at least heard of the artist that sings them.Yeah,let's face it....if we remember most of those songs,we are old But it's cool.I'm just glad that I was around to experience that amazing era. | |
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SoulAlive said: Pop radio didn't really embrace Madonna until "Borderline".
That list is amazing! Just look at all the great or at least good pop songs on there!! (OK, there are also a handful I could live without!) It belabors the obvious to say you can't turn on the radio and hear stuff like that anymore. 
BTW, I was in my last semester of high school then.  "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 |
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SoulAlive said: bboy87 said: I hate all of you who were able to enjoy 1984
You would have loved 1984.The 'Thriller' phenomenon was unlike anything I had ever seen.And then,that summer,Prince came out with 'Purple Rain'.It was an incredible time for pop music! I'm glad I was there to witness it. I wonder... With how Michael and Prince were everywhere, was it overexposure like Beyonce or was just straight up love for them? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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SoulAlive said: The first time I heard "Holiday" in late 1983,I thought it was a new black singer
Our local R&B radio station played that song to death,along with "Lucky Star".I think alot of people probably thought she was black.Kiss FM and KBLX STILL play Lucky Star and Holiday "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: The first time I heard "Holiday" in late 1983,I thought it was a new black singer
Our local R&B radio station played that song to death,along with "Lucky Star".I think alot of people probably thought she was black.Kiss FM and KBLX STILL play Lucky Star and Holiday I'm assuming the two stations are SF based. Actually I don't think KBLX plays Madonna, unless I conveniently blocked her out. Now Star 101.3 definitely plays those songs alot. Anyway I just want to say thanks for the nostalgia...6th grader that year. It makes me kinda weepy-eyed. I loved at least half of the list. "Funkyslsistah… you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude"!
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bboy87 said: SoulAlive said: The first time I heard "Holiday" in late 1983,I thought it was a new black singer
Our local R&B radio station played that song to death,along with "Lucky Star".I think alot of people probably thought she was black.Kiss FM and KBLX STILL play Lucky Star and Holiday they also play "Into The Groove" | |
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SoulAlive said: bboy87 said: Kiss FM and KBLX STILL play Lucky Star and Holiday they also play "Into The Groove" I get those 3 mixed up all the time "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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