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Thread started 02/05/09 6:13am

Harlepolis

Did Anybody See This Bio-Pic???

Life With Judy Garland: Me & My Shadows



It will be aired 2night hmmm I've always been fascinated with Ms.Garland so I might give this a shot,,,,,and I liked what I've seen from the actress Judy Davis so far.
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Reply #1 posted 02/05/09 9:38am

Timmy84

Yeah, it was cool. Judy Davis look JUST LIKE Judy Garland especially in her last years.
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Reply #2 posted 02/05/09 10:59am

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It's pretty good. My mom is a Judy Garland fanatic so she was enjoying it lol
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Reply #3 posted 02/05/09 11:42am

Harlepolis

bboy87 said:

It's pretty good. My mom is a Judy Garland fanatic so she was enjoying it lol


Same here disbelief lol whenever she used to invite her girls over to play cards, she'd ALWAYS play this movie..



It drove me crazy then,,,,,now I came to appreciate it mushy
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Reply #4 posted 02/05/09 12:33pm

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Harlepolis said:

bboy87 said:

It's pretty good. My mom is a Judy Garland fanatic so she was enjoying it lol


Same here disbelief lol whenever she used to invite her girls over to play cards, she'd ALWAYS play this movie..



It drove me crazy then,,,,,now I came to appreciate it mushy

Are we family?! falloff


My mom LOVES the hell out of "The Clock. And I mean LOVES that movie


I remember I was sick from school one day (and I was having problems with my English teacher and some other students and I didn't want to be bothered)

her ass made me tape that shit because they only show it a couple of times out of the year and she's usually at work when they would air it lol
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Reply #5 posted 02/05/09 12:35pm

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It's a very good film! Not only is Judy Davis great, but the actress who plays young Judy (her name escapes me) is also fantastic. It's campy sometimes, but in a good way that's befitting her life. lol
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Reply #6 posted 02/05/09 12:37pm

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It also shows you how industry execs were pretty cruel in those days


If you think execs are bad now, you should see how they treated kids throughout the 30s to mid 70s mad
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Reply #7 posted 02/05/09 12:39pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

It's a very good film! Not only is Judy Davis great, but the actress who plays young Judy (her name escapes me) is also fantastic. It's campy sometimes, but in a good way that's befitting her life. lol


Well its Judy Garland, so its safe to watch this movie with that assumption in mind lol

Her life story broke my heart when I watched her A&E biography on youtube sad
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Reply #8 posted 02/05/09 12:41pm

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bboy87 said:

It also shows you how industry execs were pretty cruel in those days


If you think execs are bad now, you should see how they treated kids throughout the 30s to mid 70s mad


MGM are the ones who literaly introduced her to drugs.
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Reply #9 posted 02/05/09 12:41pm

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Great movie. Judy Davis did the fool portraying Garland. thumbs up!
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Reply #10 posted 02/05/09 12:42pm

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bboy87 said:

It also shows you how industry execs were pretty cruel in those days


If you think execs are bad now, you should see how they treated kids throughout the 30s to mid 70s mad


I saw Judy's biography and yeah, they treated her like shit. disbelief
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Reply #11 posted 02/05/09 12:49pm

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Harlepolis said:

bboy87 said:

It also shows you how industry execs were pretty cruel in those days


If you think execs are bad now, you should see how they treated kids throughout the 30s to mid 70s mad


MGM are the ones who literaly introduced her to drugs.

I heard something about Shirley Temple being abused in those days too. Something about her being isolated from people
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Reply #12 posted 02/05/09 12:51pm

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bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:



MGM are the ones who literaly introduced her to drugs.

I heard something about Shirley Temple being abused in those days too. Something about her being isolated from people


I believe it. Shirley was famous at a younger age than Michael was and she probably suffered more than anyone. Matter of fact, I think Judy & Shirley suffered dearly because of their upbringings. I can definitely believe Shirley was abused.
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Reply #13 posted 02/05/09 12:54pm

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bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:



MGM are the ones who literaly introduced her to drugs.

I heard something about Shirley Temple being abused in those days too. Something about her being isolated from people


I wouldn't be supriced.

The things those people did to their artists, a slaughter would never dare to do to a dead dog disbelief

Its no wonder why Greta Garbo kept her distance and quit the business forever at 36.

MGM & Warner Bros were 'plantations' to the 8th power.
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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


I heard something about Shirley Temple being abused in those days too. Something about her being isolated from people


I believe it. Shirley was famous at a younger age than Michael was and she probably suffered more than anyone. Matter of fact, I think Judy & Shirley suffered dearly because of their upbringings. I can definitely believe Shirley was abused.

About Mike, when I was watching that A&E special and Suzanne DePasse was talking about how while Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, and Marlon could still go out and have friends, Michael was pretty much alone alot of those times
go to 5:00
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Reply #15 posted 02/05/09 12:58pm

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Harlepolis said:

bboy87 said:


I heard something about Shirley Temple being abused in those days too. Something about her being isolated from people


I wouldn't be supriced.

The things those people did to their artists, a slaughter would never dare to do to a dead dog disbelief

Its no wonder why Greta Garbo kept her distance and quit the business forever at 36.

MGM & Warner Bros were 'plantations' to the 8th power.

How they were telling Judy she was overweight when she obviously wasn't
I wouldn't be suprised if they gave Mickey Rooney drugs to keep him at a certain height and look a certain age
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Reply #16 posted 02/05/09 12:58pm

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



I believe it. Shirley was famous at a younger age than Michael was and she probably suffered more than anyone. Matter of fact, I think Judy & Shirley suffered dearly because of their upbringings. I can definitely believe Shirley was abused.

About Mike, when I was watching that A&E special and Suzanne DePasse was talking about how while Jackie, Tito, Jermaine, and Marlon could still go out and have friends, Michael was pretty much alone alot of those times
go to 5:00


That's exactly what I mean. That to me is abuse. I mean, the other brothers were allowed to be who they were, but they worked poor Michael to death. Gladys Knight later said that she and others look back and were like "but look at what happened to him" because people kept taking pieces of him.
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Reply #17 posted 02/05/09 1:01pm

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bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:



I wouldn't be supriced.

The things those people did to their artists, a slaughter would never dare to do to a dead dog disbelief

Its no wonder why Greta Garbo kept her distance and quit the business forever at 36.

MGM & Warner Bros were 'plantations' to the 8th power.

How they were telling Judy she was overweight when she obviously wasn't
I wouldn't be suprised if they gave Mickey Rooney drugs to keep him at a certain height and look a certain age
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That killed it for me.

A producer looked at Judy from a previous picture and told her "it wouldn't hurt for you to look 20 pounds lighter" and since she wanted to be some kind of sex goddess like Lana Turner, she tried it, it just made her look crazy in the end because she became a prescription pill addict and later an alcoholic.

You heard the tapes where Judy rants about how miserable her life was?

She said this, quote, unquote:
"I was Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. And I triiiiied my DAMNNNNNDEST to believe that I could get over the rainbow and I COULDN'T, SO WHAAAAAT!!! Lots of people can't."

That to me was one of the saddest audio I ever heard of a gifted talent who reached her breaking point. Is it not too shocking that she went out the way she did and at FORTY-SEVEN!? sad

She looked 67 when she died because of the abuse she had given her body.
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Reply #18 posted 02/05/09 1:15pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


How they were telling Judy she was overweight when she obviously wasn't
I wouldn't be suprised if they gave Mickey Rooney drugs to keep him at a certain height and look a certain age
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That killed it for me.

A producer looked at Judy from a previous picture and told her "it wouldn't hurt for you to look 20 pounds lighter" and since she wanted to be some kind of sex goddess like Lana Turner, she tried it, it just made her look crazy in the end because she became a prescription pill addict and later an alcoholic.

You heard the tapes where Judy rants about how miserable her life was?

She said this, quote, unquote:
"I was Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. And I triiiiied my DAMNNNNNDEST to believe that I could get over the rainbow and I COULDN'T, SO WHAAAAAT!!! Lots of people can't."

That to me was one of the saddest audio I ever heard of a gifted talent who reached her breaking point. Is it not too shocking that she went out the way she did and at FORTY-SEVEN!? sad

She looked 67 when she died because of the abuse she had given her body.


Ya know...

It really infuriated when I read about things like these. How people with huge talents end up with the neediest, most inscure self-esteems ever sad

She & Billie Holiday are VERY much alike in the sense that EVERYBODY saw their greatness except themselves.

When Lady Day did that Carnegie Hall comeback concert after she got outta prison, it was so crowded she was shocked to see people sitting ON the stage behind the musicians. Her people literaly had to convince her for 2 hours that the people are there to see her perfrom, but all she thought was "they came to see how high I was".

Thats the BIGGEST tragedy of those 2 ladies, they didn't really believe that people loved them dearly.
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Reply #19 posted 02/05/09 1:20pm

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Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:



That killed it for me.

A producer looked at Judy from a previous picture and told her "it wouldn't hurt for you to look 20 pounds lighter" and since she wanted to be some kind of sex goddess like Lana Turner, she tried it, it just made her look crazy in the end because she became a prescription pill addict and later an alcoholic.

You heard the tapes where Judy rants about how miserable her life was?

She said this, quote, unquote:
"I was Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. And I triiiiied my DAMNNNNNDEST to believe that I could get over the rainbow and I COULDN'T, SO WHAAAAAT!!! Lots of people can't."

That to me was one of the saddest audio I ever heard of a gifted talent who reached her breaking point. Is it not too shocking that she went out the way she did and at FORTY-SEVEN!? sad

She looked 67 when she died because of the abuse she had given her body.


Ya know...

It really infuriated when I read about things like these. How people with huge talents end up with the neediest, most inscure self-esteems ever sad

She & Billie Holiday are VERY much alike in the sense that EVERYBODY saw their greatness except themselves.

When Lady Day did that Carnegie Hall comeback concert after she got outta prison, it was so crowded she was shocked to see people sitting ON the stage behind the musicians. Her people literaly had to convince her for 2 hours that the people are there to see her perfrom, but all she thought was "they came to see how high I was".

Thats the BIGGEST tragedy of those 2 ladies, they didn't really believe that people loved them dearly.


Yeah Billie struggled with the same thing Judy struggled with: accepting themselves. Because both of them were told at certain points that they were "no-good" and they believed it...unfortunately. sad
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Reply #20 posted 02/05/09 1:23pm

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Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:



That killed it for me.

A producer looked at Judy from a previous picture and told her "it wouldn't hurt for you to look 20 pounds lighter" and since she wanted to be some kind of sex goddess like Lana Turner, she tried it, it just made her look crazy in the end because she became a prescription pill addict and later an alcoholic.

You heard the tapes where Judy rants about how miserable her life was?

She said this, quote, unquote:
"I was Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz. And I triiiiied my DAMNNNNNDEST to believe that I could get over the rainbow and I COULDN'T, SO WHAAAAAT!!! Lots of people can't."

That to me was one of the saddest audio I ever heard of a gifted talent who reached her breaking point. Is it not too shocking that she went out the way she did and at FORTY-SEVEN!? sad

She looked 67 when she died because of the abuse she had given her body.


Ya know...

It really infuriated when I read about things like these. How people with huge talents end up with the neediest, most inscure self-esteems ever sad

She & Billie Holiday are VERY much alike in the sense that EVERYBODY saw their greatness except themselves.

When Lady Day did that Carnegie Hall comeback concert after she got outta prison, it was so crowded she was shocked to see people sitting ON the stage behind the musicians. Her people literaly had to convince her for 2 hours that the people are there to see her perfrom, but all she thought was "they came to see how high I was".

Thats the BIGGEST tragedy of those 2 ladies, they didn't really believe that people loved them dearly.

it had to do with people near them telling them they were worthless or ugly mad
Liza is sooo much like Judy that it's unnerving. Their personalities are alike, good and bad. I love how even after she had that stroke, homegirl still went and did Mike's 30th anniversary shows. That's a performer for your ass. This generation don't know NOTHING about that!

and Timmy, that's a reason why I think Mike has some sort of distant with the brothers, that and the fact that he was constantly trying to correct the mistakes (helping with the kids his brothers neglected or denied, giving their ex wives and babymommas places to stay and money, putting his neices and nephews through school...)
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Reply #21 posted 02/05/09 1:26pm

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bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:



Ya know...

It really infuriated when I read about things like these. How people with huge talents end up with the neediest, most inscure self-esteems ever sad

She & Billie Holiday are VERY much alike in the sense that EVERYBODY saw their greatness except themselves.

When Lady Day did that Carnegie Hall comeback concert after she got outta prison, it was so crowded she was shocked to see people sitting ON the stage behind the musicians. Her people literaly had to convince her for 2 hours that the people are there to see her perfrom, but all she thought was "they came to see how high I was".

Thats the BIGGEST tragedy of those 2 ladies, they didn't really believe that people loved them dearly.

it had to do with people near them telling them they were worthless or ugly mad
Liza is sooo much like Judy that it's unnerving. Their personalities are alike, good and bad. I love how even after she had that stroke, homegirl still went and did Mike's 30th anniversary shows. That's a performer for your ass. This generation don't know NOTHING about that!

and Timmy, that's a reason why I think Mike has some sort of distant with the brothers, that and the fact that he was constantly trying to correct the mistakes (helping with the kids his brothers neglected or denied, giving their ex wives and babymommas places to stay and money, putting his neices and nephews through school...)


Yeah, all the stuff he had to go through with his brothers and father, no wonder he don't show up with them to gatherings. I don't blame him in that regard.

It could also explain why he's distant period. He just don't trust anyone and that's natural for child stars who feel fucked over that everyone tells them everything and they believe it to the point it consumes them.

That's why Judy's life was the way it was. sad
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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


it had to do with people near them telling them they were worthless or ugly mad
Liza is sooo much like Judy that it's unnerving. Their personalities are alike, good and bad. I love how even after she had that stroke, homegirl still went and did Mike's 30th anniversary shows. That's a performer for your ass. This generation don't know NOTHING about that!

and Timmy, that's a reason why I think Mike has some sort of distant with the brothers, that and the fact that he was constantly trying to correct the mistakes (helping with the kids his brothers neglected or denied, giving their ex wives and babymommas places to stay and money, putting his neices and nephews through school...)


Yeah, all the stuff he had to go through with his brothers and father, no wonder he don't show up with them to gatherings. I don't blame him in that regard.

It could also explain why he's distant period. He just don't trust anyone and that's natural for child stars who feel fucked over that everyone tells them everything and they believe it to the point it consumes them.

That's why Judy's life was the way it was. sad


If you listen to Judy singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow in her last performances, you can HEAR the pain and sadness sad
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Reply #23 posted 02/05/09 1:29pm

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah, all the stuff he had to go through with his brothers and father, no wonder he don't show up with them to gatherings. I don't blame him in that regard.

It could also explain why he's distant period. He just don't trust anyone and that's natural for child stars who feel fucked over that everyone tells them everything and they believe it to the point it consumes them.

That's why Judy's life was the way it was. sad


If you listen to Judy singing Somewhere Over The Rainbow in her last performances, you can HEAR the pain and sadness sad


Yeah, I saw a performance she did of it in her biography special that she did on a special she hosted about 13 years before she died, and you could see the pain on her face. sad
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Reply #24 posted 02/05/09 5:24pm

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I've been looking for this.. What Channel, Network and Time does this come on tonight??

Much Appreciated
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Reply #25 posted 02/05/09 9:48pm

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Wow - this made-for-TV bio was excellent and certainly deserved all the awards it received! Judy Davis did such an outstanding job that, now, whenever I see her in something - I always expect her to be Judy Garland. Tammy Blanchard - a daytime soap actress played the younger Garland, and also in a great performance.

When Lorna Luft wrote the book (autobiography) from which the movie was made, I got the pleasure of meeting her and talking to her briefly during an autograph session. She said there have been hundreds of people who have written bios about her mom, but SHE decided it was finally time to do her mother's story justice because NONE of "those people" were ever in their home, or knew her mother from her acting/singing. She said it took her, literally, decades and a lot of therapy to come to a place where she felt comfortable telling the story. It was very human and generous of her, to open her personal memories to fans... when so much of the life she lived (and her mother's) was like living in a fish bowl.

Anyway - it's too bad the story of Judy Garland had end. I could have watched this movie like a series! It's just too bad you knew what the ending would be.
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twistedeargasm said:

I've been looking for this.. What Channel, Network and Time does this come on tonight??

Much Appreciated



The movie is now available on DVD and you get rent it by mail through Netflix too!
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