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Reply #150 posted 02/05/09 8:23pm

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KidaDynamite said:

JackieBlue said:

I do recall Etta saying that Beyonce didn't know her from Adam and read a book on/about her to learn who she was for the movie. lol

But if that was the case, WHY go and laugh, joke, and smile in the girl's face. She took pictures with her talked to her and everything but she didn't like her?

I tell you, some people are so fucking phoney I don't care who they are.


Well, when she said that part she wasn't being nasty, just stating fact about her preparation for the movie and how Beyonce was so different from her at that time, and the type of person she was then.

Now this other stuff, I don't know. Maybe she is phoney or maybe she just had too much too drink with these latest comments or maybe she just had enough of Bey. But I definitely don't think she was joking. If she said it, she needs to stand by it.
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Reply #151 posted 02/05/09 8:25pm

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Timmy84 said:

KidaDynamite said:


But if that was the case, WHY go and laugh, joke, and smile in the girl's face. She took pictures with her talked to her and everything but she didn't like her?

I tell you, some people are so fucking phoney I don't care who they are.


Yo, Kida, you saw the video I posted. Apparently there's a popular YouTube Poster named Scorpion and his mama voiced her opinion about the Etta thing. She basically cursed Etta's ass out. lol

Oh mah gawd...WHERE??? lol
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Reply #152 posted 02/05/09 8:27pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Yo, Kida, you saw the video I posted. Apparently there's a popular YouTube Poster named Scorpion and his mama voiced her opinion about the Etta thing. She basically cursed Etta's ass out. lol

Oh mah gawd...WHERE??? lol


Here ya go:

http://prince.org/msg/8/296983

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Reply #153 posted 02/05/09 8:29pm

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JackieBlue said:

KidaDynamite said:


But if that was the case, WHY go and laugh, joke, and smile in the girl's face. She took pictures with her talked to her and everything but she didn't like her?

I tell you, some people are so fucking phoney I don't care who they are.


Well, when she said that part she wasn't being nasty, just stating fact about her preparation for the movie and how Beyonce was so different from her at that time, and the type of person she was then.

Now this other stuff, I don't know. Maybe she is phoney or maybe she just had too much too drink with these latest comments or maybe she just had enough of Bey. But I definitely don't think she was joking. If she said it, she needs to stand by it.

Yes I can understand that.

But for her to smile in that child's face, befriending her knowing that Bee sees her as an inspiration and then bashing her in public...behind her back, there is no if's and's or but's about it, she IS phoney.
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Reply #154 posted 02/05/09 8:32pm

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JackieBlue said:



Well, when she said that part she wasn't being nasty, just stating fact about her preparation for the movie and how Beyonce was so different from her at that time, and the type of person she was then.

Now this other stuff, I don't know. Maybe she is phoney or maybe she just had too much too drink with these latest comments or maybe she just had enough of Bey. But I definitely don't think she was joking. If she said it, she needs to stand by it.

Yes I can understand that.

But for her to smile in that child's face, befriending her knowing that Bee sees her as an inspiration and then bashing her in public...behind her back, there is no if's and's or but's about it, she IS phoney.

But how could she really view Etta as an inspiration if she didn't know nuthin' 'bout her til the film? lol
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Reply #155 posted 02/05/09 8:37pm

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KidaDynamite said:

JackieBlue said:



Well, when she said that part she wasn't being nasty, just stating fact about her preparation for the movie and how Beyonce was so different from her at that time, and the type of person she was then.

Now this other stuff, I don't know. Maybe she is phoney or maybe she just had too much too drink with these latest comments or maybe she just had enough of Bey. But I definitely don't think she was joking. If she said it, she needs to stand by it.

Yes I can understand that.

But for her to smile in that child's face, befriending her knowing that Bee sees her as an inspiration and then bashing her in public...behind her back, there is no if's and's or but's about it, she IS phoney.



Oh come on now...from Beyonce's own mouth we know that she didn't even know who Etta James was until the movie came up! If she's running around now saying that she sees Etta as an inspiration...then she's the one being phoney and no wonder Etta is pissed!
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Reply #156 posted 02/05/09 8:45pm

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Timmy84 said:

KidaDynamite said:


Oh mah gawd...WHERE??? lol


Here ya go:

http://prince.org/msg/8/296983

lol

HOT DAMN AND A CAN OF SPAM!

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Reply #157 posted 02/05/09 8:48pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

KidaDynamite said:


Yes I can understand that.

But for her to smile in that child's face, befriending her knowing that Bee sees her as an inspiration and then bashing her in public...behind her back, there is no if's and's or but's about it, she IS phoney.



Oh come on now...from Beyonce's own mouth we know that she didn't even know who Etta James was until the movie came up! If she's running around now saying that she sees Etta as an inspiration...then she's the one being phoney and no wonder Etta is pissed!


Where and when did she say this? I didn't see that. But that still doesn't give Etta a grown 71 yr old woman a reason to act that way. If she didn't approve all she had to to was tell her. For her to say all of that nonsense and publicly like that just seemed childish, period!
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Reply #158 posted 02/05/09 9:28pm

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KidaDynamite said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:




Oh come on now...from Beyonce's own mouth we know that she didn't even know who Etta James was until the movie came up! If she's running around now saying that she sees Etta as an inspiration...then she's the one being phoney and no wonder Etta is pissed!


Where and when did she say this? I didn't see that. But that still doesn't give Etta a grown 71 yr old woman a reason to act that way. If she didn't approve all she had to to was tell her. For her to say all of that nonsense and publicly like that just seemed childish, period!



I swear I saw it on YouTube but damn it! Now I can't find the video...just like I can't find the video of her and Destiny's Child singing for Bush at his Inauguration. I know both videos exist because I've seen them, it's just too bad that I didn't care enough to save them when I had the chance. pout
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Reply #159 posted 02/05/09 11:49pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:



This was in November and it was a publicity shoot for the movie "Cadillac Records", so I fail to see how this makes the audio recording a "joke". Even if she felt the way she said she does in the audio, what was she supposed to do in front of the media? Knock Beyonce down and pull out her Remy hair?


No, she could've declinded the offer to pose for a photo with her, given that she can't "stand her". Why behave like a two-faced loser?


Because that doesn't happen in Hollywood, hon.

She's appearing at a movie premiere that in part chronicles her career as a blues legend. There's no way in the Sam Hell as one of the movie's subjects, that she would refuse to be in the photo-op which will be used for the film's promotion.

That just isn't done.

In fashion, music and film, people have to appear in public and behave civilly to those they hate all the time, sort of like a sacrifice for the bigger idea, the benefit of the project which in turn benefits all. It's just the way it is. Etta is still a vital and active entertainer that has seen more ups, downs, triumphs, and tragedies in her 71 years than most of us will see in several lifetimes. As much as I'm sure she actually can't stand Beyonce, I agree with Haterina that what would we expect her to do on the red carpet? Pull out her weave? She's been an entertainer for what a half century? She's been around the rodeo more than enough times to do what anyone in entertainment would do in that sitution. You stand on that carpet for those 5 minutes scuffling along with various colleaugues, then move on inside to the premiere.

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Reply #160 posted 02/06/09 1:15am

Timmy84

You know what? I can't even be mad at Etta or Beyonce. Again, we're seeing how the media makes things bigger than what they are and rather than allowing Etta to talk, they wanna make it seem like she's this bitter old hag when maybe she's been doing this all the time. Surely we ain't heard from the Knowles yet and I doubt we will. It's all a wash. Next year, it won't be nothing. A new artist will pop up and say something off the record at Beyonce that would be deemed as "a feud". rolleyes lol
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Reply #161 posted 02/06/09 1:22am

SoulAlive

No,Etta...please don't backtrack on your comments no no no! lol Stand behind what you said!
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Reply #162 posted 02/06/09 1:26am

Timmy84

SoulAlive said:

No,Etta...please don't backtrack on your comments no no no! lol Stand behind what you said!


lol Let it go, it'll probably won't be thought of after this week. lol
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Reply #163 posted 02/06/09 6:16am

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No,Etta...please don't backtrack on your comments no no no! lol Stand behind what you said!



someone told her to make this a "good spin" on her career.....
TRUST ME- I'd rather hear Beyonce' sing "At Last" than that crackhead Celine Dion!!!! eek eek eek eek eek
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Reply #164 posted 02/06/09 6:22am

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woogiebear said:

SoulAlive said:

No,Etta...please don't backtrack on your comments no no no! lol Stand behind what you said!



someone told her to make this a "good spin" on her career.....
TRUST ME- I'd rather hear Beyonce' sing "At Last" than that crackhead Celine Dion!!!! eek eek eek eek eek


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Reply #165 posted 02/06/09 7:00am

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Ottensen said:

Copycat said:



No, she could've declinded the offer to pose for a photo with her, given that she can't "stand her". Why behave like a two-faced loser?


Because that doesn't happen in Hollywood, hon.

She's appearing at a movie premiere that in part chronicles her career as a blues legend. There's no way in the Sam Hell as one of the movie's subjects, that she would refuse to be in the photo-op which will be used for the film's promotion.

That just isn't done.

In fashion, music and film, people have to appear in public and behave civilly to those they hate all the time, sort of like a sacrifice for the bigger idea, the benefit of the project which in turn benefits all. It's just the way it is. Etta is still a vital and active entertainer that has seen more ups, downs, triumphs, and tragedies in her 71 years than most of us will see in several lifetimes. As much as I'm sure she actually can't stand Beyonce, I agree with Haterina that what would we expect her to do on the red carpet? Pull out her weave? She's been an entertainer for what a half century? She's been around the rodeo more than enough times to do what anyone in entertainment would do in that sitution. You stand on that carpet for those 5 minutes scuffling along with various colleaugues, then move on inside to the premiere.

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nod Well said!
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Reply #166 posted 02/06/09 7:09am

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Ottensen said:

Copycat said:



No, she could've declinded the offer to pose for a photo with her, given that she can't "stand her". Why behave like a two-faced loser?


Because that doesn't happen in Hollywood, hon.

She's appearing at a movie premiere that in part chronicles her career as a blues legend. There's no way in the Sam Hell as one of the movie's subjects, that she would refuse to be in the photo-op which will be used for the film's promotion.

That just isn't done.

In fashion, music and film, people have to appear in public and behave civilly to those they hate all the time, sort of like a sacrifice for the bigger idea, the benefit of the project which in turn benefits all. It's just the way it is. Etta is still a vital and active entertainer that has seen more ups, downs, triumphs, and tragedies in her 71 years than most of us will see in several lifetimes. As much as I'm sure she actually can't stand Beyonce, I agree with Haterina that what would we expect her to do on the red carpet? Pull out her weave? She's been an entertainer for what a half century? She's been around the rodeo more than enough times to do what anyone in entertainment would do in that sitution. You stand on that carpet for those 5 minutes scuffling along with various colleaugues, then move on inside to the premiere.

Don't hate the player, hate The Game. twocents
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All true, and under her breath, she's probably saying those SOB's. That's Tinseltown.
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Reply #167 posted 02/06/09 7:38am

angel345

And she probably cleaned it up because she don't want her royalty checks cut or delayed.
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Reply #168 posted 02/06/09 7:54am

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JackieBlue said:



Well, when she said that part she wasn't being nasty, just stating fact about her preparation for the movie and how Beyonce was so different from her at that time, and the type of person she was then.

Now this other stuff, I don't know. Maybe she is phoney or maybe she just had too much too drink with these latest comments or maybe she just had enough of Bey. But I definitely don't think she was joking. If she said it, she needs to stand by it.

Yes I can understand that.

But for her to smile in that child's face, befriending her knowing that Bee sees her as an inspiration and then bashing her in public...behind her back, there is no if's and's or but's about it, she IS phoney.


she's not phoney, she's been telling the truth that has needed 2 have been said 4 ages ..beyonce is just flash and no substance
man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #169 posted 02/06/09 9:36am

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She's backpedaling in earnest from her comments after inserting both pumps in mouth---and now she's embracing Obama, saying " She also hoped that Obama would not take her jibes about his "big ears" and him not being "my president," personally, explaining, "he's got other stuff [to worry about] besides Etta James."

She noted that she "always thought he was handsome and he was cool," and that her joke "might be horrible. The president might not ever like me in life."

What a class act! confused Etta, do you need a towel to remove the egg on your face???
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Reply #170 posted 02/06/09 10:07am

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The whole performance at the Inauguration ball seems too much like a movie promotion stunt, and that should upset everyone lol
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Reply #171 posted 02/06/09 10:23am

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A blogger's take on the situation:

http://new.music.yahoo.co...rformance/

Etta James Disses Beyonce's Inauguration Performance
Posted Thu Feb 5, 2009 12:42pm PST by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training

It's safe to assume that Beyonce's portrayal of Etta James in the retro film Cadillac Records did not impress the legendary soul singer.


The 71-year-old pioneer, who rose to fame in 1950s, recently made it clear that she was not a fan of the self-proclaimed diva whose third solo album I Am...Sasha Fierce is the #3 album in the country.

Before performing "At Last" at Seattle's Paramount Theatre last Wednesday, James complained about Beyonce singing the song for President Obama and wife Michelle's first dance at the Neighborhood Ball.

"You know that woman he had singing for him, singing my song, she's going to get her a-- whipped," Etta said to a thunderous applause. She went on to add that she could not "stand" Beyonce.

Some dismiss James' anger as jealously, saying that she is only upset because she was not invited to perform the song herself.

However, James' anger warrants the asking of a few key questions:

Did anyone from Obama or Beyonce's camps contact James beforehand to seek her blessing?

Since Etta is not credited as a songwriter for "At Last," she technically does not have the authority to approve who sings the song. However, considering the significance of the song being performed at the inauguration ball for the first African American president and furthermore the song being used for the president's first dance with the first lady, consulting James beforehand would have been the honorable thing to do. I know that appropriate clearances were already in place for Beyonce to perform the song for the promotion of Cadillac Records, but the inauguration is a historical, not promotional, event.

Additionally, based on James' rant, she is not a fan of the president either. When addressing the Seattle crowd, she referred to Obama as "your president...the one with the big ears," and added, "he's not my president."

Was James even considered to sing or even invited to the inauguration?

Let's be honest, would the inauguration committee have asked Beyonce to sing an Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross or Tina Turner song in lieu of having their involvement? We all know the answer to that question. Since Etta has said that she is not a supporter of Obama, had she received an invite or not, maybe she would not have attended. To take it a step further, if Etta had made it clear that she did not want any ties to Obama, why then would they use her staple song to celebrate his first day of presidency?

Ironically, the day following Beyonce's January 20 performance, James' son Donto James was quoted in the New York Daily News saying that his mother loved the rendition. "She thought it was great," Donto said. "She's gotten emotional, just like everybody else."

This isn't the first time Beyonce has caught flack from one of her predecessors. Almost exactly one year ago, I blogged about a tongue lashing Beyonce received from Aretha Franklin. The Queen Of Soul was upset with Beyonce for referring to Tina Turner as "the Queen" during an introduction at last year's Grammys.

In this instance, I sided with Beyonce. I agree that Aretha is the sole Queen Of Soul, but also acknowledge that Tina Turner, too, is a queen.

In the case of Etta James, I take Etta's side. Though her reaction is crass for someone of her stature, I feel that she was robbed of a moment in history. Considering her struggles to break into the music business in the 1950s and ability to prevail with such great success (she was inducted in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 1993), she should have had the opportunity to sing the song (that she popularized) for the president.

If "At Last" had not been significant and did not express the message that the inauguration committee wanted to convey, they would have selected another song. But they wanted "At Last."

I bet Beyonce's "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" wasn't even up for discussion.

A representative for Beyonce said that the singer does not have a statement or comment at this time.
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Reply #172 posted 02/06/09 10:56am

destinyc1

Etta isn't three faced.What if someone went to the grammys and sang irreplaceable a song not written by be-one beyonce and rode that song to fame.
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Reply #173 posted 02/06/09 11:14am

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NaughtyKitty said:

A blogger's take on the situation:

http://new.music.yahoo.co...rformance/

Etta James Disses Beyonce's Inauguration Performance
Posted Thu Feb 5, 2009 12:42pm PST by Billy Johnson, Jr. in Hip-Hop Media Training

It's safe to assume that Beyonce's portrayal of Etta James in the retro film Cadillac Records did not impress the legendary soul singer.


The 71-year-old pioneer, who rose to fame in 1950s, recently made it clear that she was not a fan of the self-proclaimed diva whose third solo album I Am...Sasha Fierce is the #3 album in the country.

Before performing "At Last" at Seattle's Paramount Theatre last Wednesday, James complained about Beyonce singing the song for President Obama and wife Michelle's first dance at the Neighborhood Ball.

"You know that woman he had singing for him, singing my song, she's going to get her a-- whipped," Etta said to a thunderous applause. She went on to add that she could not "stand" Beyonce.

Some dismiss James' anger as jealously, saying that she is only upset because she was not invited to perform the song herself.

However, James' anger warrants the asking of a few key questions:

Did anyone from Obama or Beyonce's camps contact James beforehand to seek her blessing?

Since Etta is not credited as a songwriter for "At Last," she technically does not have the authority to approve who sings the song. However, considering the significance of the song being performed at the inauguration ball for the first African American president and furthermore the song being used for the president's first dance with the first lady, consulting James beforehand would have been the honorable thing to do. I know that appropriate clearances were already in place for Beyonce to perform the song for the promotion of Cadillac Records, but the inauguration is a historical, not promotional, event.

Additionally, based on James' rant, she is not a fan of the president either. When addressing the Seattle crowd, she referred to Obama as "your president...the one with the big ears," and added, "he's not my president."

Was James even considered to sing or even invited to the inauguration?

Let's be honest, would the inauguration committee have asked Beyonce to sing an Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross or Tina Turner song in lieu of having their involvement? We all know the answer to that question. Since Etta has said that she is not a supporter of Obama, had she received an invite or not, maybe she would not have attended. To take it a step further, if Etta had made it clear that she did not want any ties to Obama, why then would they use her staple song to celebrate his first day of presidency?

Ironically, the day following Beyonce's January 20 performance, James' son Donto James was quoted in the New York Daily News saying that his mother loved the rendition. "She thought it was great," Donto said. "She's gotten emotional, just like everybody else."

This isn't the first time Beyonce has caught flack from one of her predecessors. Almost exactly one year ago, I blogged about a tongue lashing Beyonce received from Aretha Franklin. The Queen Of Soul was upset with Beyonce for referring to Tina Turner as "the Queen" during an introduction at last year's Grammys.

In this instance, I sided with Beyonce. I agree that Aretha is the sole Queen Of Soul, but also acknowledge that Tina Turner, too, is a queen.

In the case of Etta James, I take Etta's side. Though her reaction is crass for someone of her stature, I feel that she was robbed of a moment in history. Considering her struggles to break into the music business in the 1950s and ability to prevail with such great success (she was inducted in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in 1993), she should have had the opportunity to sing the song (that she popularized) for the president.

If "At Last" had not been significant and did not express the message that the inauguration committee wanted to convey, they would have selected another song. But they wanted "At Last."

I bet Beyonce's "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" wasn't even up for discussion.

A representative for Beyonce said that the singer does not have a statement or comment at this time.


I agree with this article.
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Reply #174 posted 02/06/09 11:20am

tamewar

Beyonce knows she doesn't have a song, She thought Listen from Dreamgirls was gonna be it lol but it fail and she was overshadow by J.Hud.

Etta is Old, My grandmom is like that always popping off she doesn't care. People aka Beyonce klan are jumping up and down saying that's not Etta song anyway! Are losers to the core. I wouldn't dare say I will always love you isn't Whitney song. Do you know how hard it was back then during etta time to have a song without Whites covering to make it there own. Think about it.
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Reply #175 posted 02/06/09 11:59am

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tamewar said:

Beyonce knows she doesn't have a song, She thought Listen from Dreamgirls was gonna be it lol but it fail and she was overshadow by J.Hud.

Etta is Old, My grandmom is like that always popping off she doesn't care. People aka Beyonce klan are jumping up and down saying that's not Etta song anyway! Are losers to the core. I wouldn't dare say I will always love you isn't Whitney song. Do you know how hard it was back then during etta time to have a song without Whites covering to make it there own. Think about it.


Doesn't have a song?
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Reply #176 posted 02/06/09 12:01pm

tamewar

VenusBlingBling said:

tamewar said:

Beyonce knows she doesn't have a song, She thought Listen from Dreamgirls was gonna be it lol but it fail and she was overshadow by J.Hud.

Etta is Old, My grandmom is like that always popping off she doesn't care. People aka Beyonce klan are jumping up and down saying that's not Etta song anyway! Are losers to the core. I wouldn't dare say I will always love you isn't Whitney song. Do you know how hard it was back then during etta time to have a song without Whites covering to make it there own. Think about it.


Doesn't have a song?


You know a theme song, what a singer is truly know for a
la Aretha Franklin Respect.
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Reply #177 posted 02/06/09 12:05pm

midnightmover

It's occasions like the inauguration which must bring home to Beyonce how shallow and childish her material is. She simply doesn't have a song in her catalogue worthy of the occasion.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #178 posted 02/06/09 2:06pm

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tamewar said:

Beyonce knows she doesn't have a song, She thought Listen from Dreamgirls was gonna be it lol but it fail and she was overshadow by J.Hud.

Etta is Old, My grandmom is like that always popping off she doesn't care. People aka Beyonce klan are jumping up and down saying that's not Etta song anyway! Are losers to the core. I wouldn't dare say I will always love you isn't Whitney song. Do you know how hard it was back then during etta time to have a song without Whites covering to make it there own. Think about it.

And Little Richard is just the man that would tell all about the business during his day.
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Reply #179 posted 02/06/09 2:16pm

chewwsey

I have to admit, this was pretty funny. Hell I heard at last during the dance, but hell I didn't know she was singing it! Now I am really tired of her. I wish she wouldn't try to do everything. I mean share for god's sake B!
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