Straight up ghetto skank. Naaaaasteee.

Timmy84 said:

Cuz she IS.

I think she looks great! I don't know if Def Jam is going to let her go or not. Really, I think she should let Def Jam go. They really didn't do much to push the singles from her last CD and the first two single choices sucked. I'm very afraid she's going to end up like Janet if she doesn't cut them loose soon. There is so much more for her to do and like someone stated earlier, a slew of great producers that she has yet to work with.

Mariah's career is a long way from being anywhere near over. But, she definately needs to return to her roots and start recording more mature music instead of concentrating so much on that hip-hop mess. That's the problem with Janet and Madonna. They are over 40 but still prancing around doing all that "ooooing", "cooing" and heavy breathing like they are still in their 20's. They both look and sound absolutely ridiculous! I just don't want Mimi to wind up like that. Hopefully, someone on her management team will tell her it's time to start sounding her age.

kitbradley said:

You don't? Welcome to the last 10 years of Mariah's career (Mimi excluded).

kitbradley said:

It’s a weird place to be. When you’re not 40 you look at it as old. Then when you become 40 or close to it, you realize you felt no different than when you were 30. You’ve outgrown some things but for the most part things don’t really change. Even though her voice isn’t the same, Mariah can still do different material but I admit I don’t want her to become a Vanessa Williams type singer and I heart Vanessa but I’m not ready for that. Heck, when Vanessa did I thought it was too early for her then and she was in her early 30s. But I really don’t think Mariah’s there yet and may never be especially since The Dream is supposedly already working on her next album.

JackieBlue said:

girl was in the back of my head the whole time when i was watching benjamin button


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PricelessHo said:

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kitbradley said:

ive heard snippets of the dreams new album and mind you shits is crazy. mariah just opens up a shitload of possibilities for dream.

Timmy84 said:

Someone needs to tell Mariah & Janet to start acting their real ages and STFU with this mid-life crisis foolishness.

she is fat it pains my eyes. she should not wear tight clothes when she can't. I agree she should not work teenie clothes. how old is she, 40?

graecophilos said:

!!!

dag said:

Not going to happen

BlaqueKnight said:

I think the look often reflects the music. I guess what I meant about her career having longevity past age 40 if she went back to her classy look also implied she return to her mature sound.
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BlaqueKnight said:

But if the industry judged Mariah on her output and albums she'd be gone. She lowers herself with the quality she is putting out, and im tired of hearing well the MIMI album was grea, NO IT WASNT, it sold plain and simple, but it had just as much filler than the rest of her cds, almost more. Mimi had one thing going, "We belong together" and its success, that was it, that caused the domino effect for that record. Take that song away, and the album would have had nothing to build off of.

lastdecember said:

Truth, much as I love my Mariah.

lastdecember said:

I said nothing of E of Mimi. The problem is the industry's judgment, so "if" the industry judged is a moot point. The FACTS are that in most cases writers last longer in the business than people who just sing, unless those singers rise to the top (like Luther) and their voices are in demand enough for them to remain useful. Regardless of the trends in music, the fact that Mariah writes her own stuff remains. If the material didn't decline in quality, she'd still be worth more than someone like Rihanna, who relies on writers.
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BlaqueKnight said:

True but she has lowered herself to a point where you go "do you really want to say you wrote this?" Truth be known, as much as it sickens me, things like playing and writing really arent going to matter, because the whole new generation for the most part is being brought up digital, no liner notes, nobody really cares who is on a record or who wrote it, it may matter to alot of us here, but on wide scale it doesnt matter to most people anymore, especially those that do the majority of the legal and illegal downloading.

lastdecember said:

I think he meant from the perspective of a record label looking to (re) sign Mariah.

At least you KNOW she can write and sing, and sold records in the past.

Cinnie said:

Mariah reminds me of Janet Jackson. Remember now she isn't in the Style of Vision Of Love . I think she looks o.k. for the Image she is creating.

Cinnie said:

but you are giving labels WAY TOO MUCH credit there. They could care less what you SOLD, they wanna know what you will bring in, regardless if you write it, steal it, sample it, or beat the tunes out on a rock, they want the $$$ and fuck your talents. Mariah's last album though it sold a million plus it cost the label 20 times that to market, now we all know that Mariah is going to command alot of cash wherever she goes next or if she stays with def jam, and i got news for everyone, take a good look at Major League Baseball and how no one is getting signed and having to take what they can get, the same thing is gonna happen in the music business to these so called ICONS.

BlaqueKnight said:

Actually Luther wrote and produced most of his own stuff. He was known as a vocal arranger and writer way before he released anything on his own.
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is it me or is the sped up high note at the end so funny


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SCNDLS said:

HAAAAA

Can't blame Timmy though, its kinda easy to 4get that she's black sometimes

Harlepolis said:

Yeah you know what I meant... I mean I know she's a redbone but God, you put that light makeup on her you can't tell!

Timmy84 said:

I used to work with a girl who doesn't have a HINT whatsoever of being black untill she showed me a pic of her folks and told me where she came from...

New Orleans!!!

I said "Creole!" and she said "I'm black, I don't believe in none of that creole label games".

5 years working with that chic and all that time I thought she was an Arab, turned out she was blood all along

Harlepolis said:

Yeah it's amazing, ain't it? My momma can be mistaken for white, Hispanic or Asian but she's a BLACK woman so I can see how people can misconstrue that. Plus my mom (and my brother from my momma's first marriage) were born with light blond hair. Her nickname was "Dirty Red" growing up.

lastdecember said, it sold plain and simple, but it had just as much filler than the rest of her cds, [/quote]

And that's all that matters at the end of the day, how well it sold. And as far as it's greatness, that's your opinion. I and a lot of other people thought "Mimi" was an exceptional album from beginning to end. Next to "Emotions", I thought it was her most consistant disc to date. I loved every song on the disc. So, I guess greatness is in the ears of the beholder.