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Springsteen calls Wal-Mart deal a mistake

http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...pringsteen


NEW YORK – The Boss is owning up to a mistake.

In an interview with Sunday's New York Times, Bruce Springsteen says he shouldn't have made a deal with Wal-Mart. This month, the store started exclusively selling a Springsteen greatest hits CD.

Some fans were critical because Springsteen has been a longtime supporter of worker's rights, and Wal-Mart has faced criticism for its labor practices.

Springsteen told the Times that his team didn't vet the issue as closely as he should have, and that he "dropped the ball on it."

Springsteen went on to say: "It was a mistake. Our batting average is usually very good, but we missed that one. Fans will call you on that stuff, as it should be."

Springsteen released his new CD "Working on a Dream" this week and is performing the halftime show at the Super Bowl.
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Reply #1 posted 01/30/09 3:40pm

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"Dropped the ball," but probably spent the money without qualms confused Bruce is a good guy, no doubt, but he also has no problem with being rich lol
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Reply #2 posted 01/30/09 3:42pm

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I dont think any artist owes apologies for trying to get their work heard or out there at this point, with all the ripping off of music and artists, there are no room for apologies.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #3 posted 01/30/09 3:47pm

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I dont think any artist owes apologies for trying to get their work heard or out there at this point, with all the ripping off of music and artists, there are no room for apologies.


he doesn't owe any apologies (nor do the people who shop there), but just like some people don't like to support Wal Mart, Bruce realized it didn't fit with his own philosophy.

I don't think he was referring to any mistake other than a personal one
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Reply #4 posted 01/30/09 3:54pm

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Bruce is a good guy, no doubt, but he also has no problem with being rich lol

Bruce sometimes forgets that the persona he has cultivated puts him under a microscope most other artists are not subject to. He probably thought, 'Hey, AC/DC did a Wal*Mart deal and no one batted an eye. And Bob's done commercials for Victoria's Secret...Cadillac...' and figured it would be cool with his fans. Wuh-RONG! lol

The irony is that I'm sure he's played in arenas with really crappy labor practices (for example), but of course no one gives a fuck about that. lol

The Super Bowl press conference was surprisingly entertaining. My favorite part? One reporter asked why he's doing the event now. Bruce stood up and did his best Fred Sanford ("We've got a new record comin' out, dummy!").
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http://www.nfl.com/superb...nfirm=true
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Reply #5 posted 01/30/09 3:57pm

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NDRU said:

lastdecember said:

I dont think any artist owes apologies for trying to get their work heard or out there at this point, with all the ripping off of music and artists, there are no room for apologies.


he doesn't owe any apologies (nor do the people who shop there), but just like some people don't like to support Wal Mart, Bruce realized it didn't fit with his own philosophy.

I don't think he was referring to any mistake other than a personal one


Well it was similar to when John Mellencamp put his song in a commercial and yet still talked about how songs shouldnt be used in commercials, hes comeback was " guys my age are not going to get played anywhere" this is a new way to at least be heard.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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lastdecember said:

NDRU said:



he doesn't owe any apologies (nor do the people who shop there), but just like some people don't like to support Wal Mart, Bruce realized it didn't fit with his own philosophy.

I don't think he was referring to any mistake other than a personal one


Well it was similar to when John Mellencamp put his song in a commercial and yet still talked about how songs shouldnt be used in commercials, hes comeback was " guys my age are not going to get played anywhere" this is a new way to at least be heard.

While I have no problem with these guys doing commercials, that rationale is lame. They both have mazuma up the wazoo; they'd do just fine without the extra sales that might come from these kinds of deals.
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Reply #7 posted 01/30/09 4:15pm

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lastdecember said:



Well it was similar to when John Mellencamp put his song in a commercial and yet still talked about how songs shouldnt be used in commercials, hes comeback was " guys my age are not going to get played anywhere" this is a new way to at least be heard.

While I have no problem with these guys doing commercials, that rationale is lame. They both have mazuma up the wazoo; they'd do just fine without the extra sales that might come from these kinds of deals.


I think they're scared no one would recognize them unless they do what they protested against when they were young, lol.
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Timmy84 said:

Ace said:


While I have no problem with these guys doing commercials, that rationale is lame. They both have mazuma up the wazoo; they'd do just fine without the extra sales that might come from these kinds of deals.


I think they're scared no one would recognize them unless they do what they protested against when they were young, lol.

I think they're scared they won't have enough money to keep on the security they need to keep their crazy fans away. lol
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Reply #9 posted 01/30/09 4:35pm

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Timmy84 said:



I think they're scared no one would recognize them unless they do what they protested against when they were young, lol.

I think they're scared they won't have enough money to keep on the security they need to keep their crazy fans away. lol


That's true too! lol
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Reply #10 posted 01/30/09 4:38pm

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_en_ot/people_springsteen


NEW YORK – The Boss is owning up to a mistake.

In an interview with Sunday's New York Times, Bruce Springsteen says he shouldn't have made a deal with Wal-Mart. This month, the store started exclusively selling a Springsteen greatest hits CD.

Some fans were critical because Springsteen has been a longtime supporter of worker's rights, and Wal-Mart has faced criticism for its labor practices.

Springsteen told the Times that his team didn't vet the issue as closely as he should have, and that he "dropped the ball on it."

Springsteen went on to say: "It was a mistake. Our batting average is usually very good, but we missed that one. Fans will call you on that stuff, as it should be."

Springsteen released his new CD "Working on a Dream" this week and is performing the halftime show at the Super Bowl.

Wal-Mart has no unions and North Carolina is a firewall state. I remember they were protesting against opening up Wal-Mart stores in New York, a few years back.
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Reply #11 posted 01/30/09 4:44pm

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daPrettyman said:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_en_ot/people_springsteen


NEW YORK – The Boss is owning up to a mistake.

In an interview with Sunday's New York Times, Bruce Springsteen says he shouldn't have made a deal with Wal-Mart. This month, the store started exclusively selling a Springsteen greatest hits CD.

Some fans were critical because Springsteen has been a longtime supporter of worker's rights, and Wal-Mart has faced criticism for its labor practices.

Springsteen told the Times that his team didn't vet the issue as closely as he should have, and that he "dropped the ball on it."

Springsteen went on to say: "It was a mistake. Our batting average is usually very good, but we missed that one. Fans will call you on that stuff, as it should be."

Springsteen released his new CD "Working on a Dream" this week and is performing the halftime show at the Super Bowl.

Wal-Mart has no unions and North Carolina is a firewall state. I remember they were protesting against opening up Wal-Mart stores in New York, a few years back.


We've embraced Wal-Mart as like THE MALL or some shit. Half the people who go to the Wal-Mart where I live at don't even buy nothing, they just hang out. lol THAT being said, they're incredulous with the prices and there's no damn independent CD in there except Nine Inch Nails. I hardly buy music now, I forgot I can burn CDs now. lol
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Reply #12 posted 01/30/09 5:18pm

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angel345 said:


Wal-Mart has no unions and North Carolina is a firewall state. I remember they were protesting against opening up Wal-Mart stores in New York, a few years back.


We've embraced Wal-Mart as like THE MALL or some shit. Half the people who go to the Wal-Mart where I live at don't even buy nothing, they just hang out. lol THAT being said, they're incredulous with the prices and there's no damn independent CD in there except Nine Inch Nails. I hardly buy music now, I forgot I can burn CDs now. lol
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Yes, I heard that NY has finally got a Wal-Mart. It surprised me, but..... neutral
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Reply #13 posted 01/30/09 5:53pm

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Here is the track list for "Greatest Hits":

"Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)"
"Born To Run"
"Thunder Road"
"Darkness on the Edge of Town"
"Badlands"
"Hungry Heart"
"Glory Days"
"Dancing in the Dark"
"Born in the U.S.A."
"The Rising"
"Lonesome Day"
"Radio Nowhere"

Bit of a crap Greatest Hits. Why would you buy it?
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Reply #14 posted 01/30/09 5:56pm

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mynameisnotsusan said:

Here is the track list for "Greatest Hits":

"Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)"
"Born To Run"
"Thunder Road"
"Darkness on the Edge of Town"
"Badlands"
"Hungry Heart"
"Glory Days"
"Dancing in the Dark"
"Born in the U.S.A."
"The Rising"
"Lonesome Day"
"Radio Nowhere"

Bit of a crap Greatest Hits. Why would you buy it?

No. If you have no Springsteen and want a comp, both of these are better:



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Reply #15 posted 01/30/09 6:04pm

Timmy84

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Here is the track list for "Greatest Hits":

"Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)"
"Born To Run"
"Thunder Road"
"Darkness on the Edge of Town"
"Badlands"
"Hungry Heart"
"Glory Days"
"Dancing in the Dark"
"Born in the U.S.A."
"The Rising"
"Lonesome Day"
"Radio Nowhere"

Bit of a crap Greatest Hits. Why would you buy it?


Hell naw, lol.
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Reply #16 posted 01/30/09 6:06pm

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Timmy84 said:

mynameisnotsusan said:

Here is the track list for "Greatest Hits":

"Rosalita (Come Out Tonight)"
"Born To Run"
"Thunder Road"
"Darkness on the Edge of Town"
"Badlands"
"Hungry Heart"
"Glory Days"
"Dancing in the Dark"
"Born in the U.S.A."
"The Rising"
"Lonesome Day"
"Radio Nowhere"

Bit of a crap Greatest Hits. Why would you buy it?


Hell naw, lol.

The Wal*Mart disc is limited to songs recorded with The E Street Band.
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Reply #17 posted 01/30/09 6:10pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



Hell naw, lol.

The Wal*Mart disc is limited to songs recorded with The E Street Band.


Wal-Mart usually do limit artists' hits on compilations, I saw one compilation that only had seven songs on it. lol
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Ace said:


No. If you have no Springsteen and want a comp, both of these are better:





this is the one that got me into Bruce, back when it came out. very good comp.
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errant said:

Ace said:


No. If you have no Springsteen and want a comp, both of these are better:





this is the one that got me into Bruce, back when it came out. very good comp.

IIRC, Essential's better, but that's a 3-disc set (Disc 3 is a bunch of previously-unreleased things). It might be priced as a double-disc, though, 'cause the third CD was advertised as a bonus disc.

GH has "Better Days", "Blood Brothers" and "This Hard Land" (although the version of 'THL' on Tracks smokes that one), but Essential includes "Tunnel of Love", "Lucky Town" and "Living Proof" (among others). It also goes up through The Rising, so you get "The Ghost of Tom Joad", "The Rising" (meh), "Lonesome Day" (eh), "Mary's Place", "Land of Hope and Dreams" and "American Skin (41 Shots)".
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Ace said:

errant said:




this is the one that got me into Bruce, back when it came out. very good comp.

IIRC, Essential's better, but that's a 3-disc set (Disc 3 is a bunch of previously-unreleased things). It might be priced as a double-disc, though, 'cause the third CD was advertised as a bonus disc.

GH has "Better Days", "Blood Brothers" and "This Hard Land" (although the version of 'THL' on Tracks smokes that one), but Essential includes "Tunnel of Love", "Lucky Town" and "Living Proof" (among others). It also goes up through The Rising, so you get "The Ghost of Tom Joad", "The Rising" (meh), "Lonesome Day" (eh), "Mary's Place", "Land of Hope and Dreams" and "American Skin (41 Shots)".


i think the 1995 GH is a great intro for anyone interested in getting into Bruce. you're going to know all the tracks to refamiliarize yourself with them without getting bogged down in a lot of stuff.

i should rephrase that, though. Essential is probably better if someone thinks they're interested in getting into him more, to be exposed to some of the slightly lesser-known stuff, but GH is probably all most people will need. it's an excellent single disc, though there are some glaring omissions.
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i think the 1995 GH is a great intro for anyone interested in getting into Bruce. you're going to know all the tracks

Well, I would think the vast majority would only be familiar with "Born to Run", "Hungry Heart", the Born in the U.S.A. songs, "Brilliant Disguise" and "Streets of Philadelphia", but I know what you mean.

I've become a post-River Bruce guy, myself, so I can't relate to most of the early stuff anymore. A lot of it is just too melodramatic and bombastic for me now.
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Reply #22 posted 01/30/09 8:54pm

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Um is he performing at the Super Bowl this Sunday?
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Ace said:

errant said:

i think the 1995 GH is a great intro for anyone interested in getting into Bruce. you're going to know all the tracks

Well, I would think the vast majority would only be familiar with "Born to Run", "Hungry Heart", the Born in the U.S.A. songs, "Brilliant Disguise" and "Streets of Philadelphia", but I know what you mean.

I've become a post-River Bruce guy, myself, so I can't relate to most of the early stuff anymore. A lot of it is just too melodramatic and bombastic for me now.



I noticed the same thing with myself. When I was into him the first go around, I really loved the 70's stuff and The River more than the really popular stuff from the 80's, which is actually strange, because that really wasn't at all where my musical interests were back then.

Since I've been revisiting him, I'm really enjoying Nebraska through Human Touch/Lucky Town. Especially Nebraska. I've yet to find time to really delve into the stuff after that. And the 70's stuff leaves me a little cold.
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Um is he performing at the Super Bowl this Sunday?

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errant said:

Ace said:


Well, I would think the vast majority would only be familiar with "Born to Run", "Hungry Heart", the Born in the U.S.A. songs, "Brilliant Disguise" and "Streets of Philadelphia", but I know what you mean.

I've become a post-River Bruce guy, myself, so I can't relate to most of the early stuff anymore. A lot of it is just too melodramatic and bombastic for me now.



I noticed the same thing with myself. When I was into him the first go around, I really loved the 70's stuff and The River more than the really popular stuff from the 80's, which is actually strange, because that really wasn't at all where my musical interests were back then.

Since I've been revisiting him, I'm really enjoying Nebraska through Human Touch/Lucky Town. Especially Nebraska. I've yet to find time to really delve into the stuff after that. And the 70's stuff leaves me a little cold.

My favorites are Human Touch, Lucky Town and that era's outtakes (see Tracks, Disc 4).
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Not enough of a mistake to pull the album though.
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NDRU said:

lastdecember said:

I dont think any artist owes apologies for trying to get their work heard or out there at this point, with all the ripping off of music and artists, there are no room for apologies.


he doesn't owe any apologies (nor do the people who shop there), but just like some people don't like to support Wal Mart, Bruce realized it didn't fit with his own philosophy.

I don't think he was referring to any mistake other than a personal one


I agree. It's like being in a save the rainforest group and then releasing your album with a paper cover of rainforest's wood.
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lastdecember said:



Well it was similar to when John Mellencamp put his song in a commercial and yet still talked about how songs shouldnt be used in commercials, hes comeback was " guys my age are not going to get played anywhere" this is a new way to at least be heard.

While I have no problem with these guys doing commercials, that rationale is lame. They both have mazuma up the wazoo; they'd do just fine without the extra sales that might come from these kinds of deals.


Really, i think you are living in a dream when you think they are getting paid this $$ for recording on a label. Springsteen may be loaded, but that doesnt mean its ok for him to be ripped off. Mellencamp is far from getting paid, back in 1993 when he did "HUMAN WHEELS" he quit the label when they could only get his single to number 60, saying "im not recording these songs so you guys cant get them played, thats your job" and thats the truth, these label cats and A&R dudes get the $$$$ up the ass, much more than the artist, and if they arent doing things to get them played, then why shouldnt they do their own ways of promoting?? I mean is everyone gonnaa get on PRINCE's case when he releases his new albums through "Best Buy" only because he wants more money than a label will pay him? Why shouldnt he want to get what is due him and his work?

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Not enough of a mistake to pull the album though.

I'm sure that's legally impossible. Frankly, I'm surprised he's even said what he has, as I would think it would leave him open to a lawsuit from WM.
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