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MUSICIANS WHO'VE JUMPED THE SHARK

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Musicians Who've Jumped the Shark
Posted Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:36pm PST by Shawn Amos in GetBack

Last night, I bet my wife she couldn't recite all the lyrics to "Every Rose Has Its Thorn." You do things like that when you have kids and don't go out anymore. I lost the bet, so I was forced to watch VH1's "Rock of Love Bus With Bret Michaels." Not sure what's worse: realizing I have a wife who can recite Poison lyrics verbatim or watching an hour of Bret Michaels.

It's hard for musicians to stay on top. Scratch that. It's impossible for musicians to stay on top. We live in a world of fads, passing fancies, and ever-changing moods. So it's understandable that some artists do whatever it takes to stretch their 15 minutes to 30. It's a long ride coming down, and no one wants to hit bottom. Can you blame them for getting a little desperate as the fall begins? So if that means they have to trade in a few integrity chips at the table, c'est la vie.

You were once a Top 10 pop star, and now you're the host of a tabloid TV show? So what? At least everyone still knows your name, Mark McGrath. You were once at the forefront of rap's new wave, and now you're making mashed potatoes with Martha Stewart? At least you're still the leader of the Dogg pound, right, Snoop? You're now spending nights writing a music blog? Uh... let's move on.

Everyone's gotta make a buck, and I'm not begrudging anyone the right to do so. Still, these folks have jumped the shark. It's that sad show business tale dating back to the days of '70s olde, when TV's Fonzie traded in his motorcycle for a pair of water skis. He not only jumped over some sharks, but he also dragged "Happy Days" down into the critical gutter. What was once a beloved show became a joke (even though it stayed at the top of the ratings for a while longer). To this day, the shark-jumping episode lives in infamy and serves as shorthand for those moments when all cred is lost.

Here are five musicians who have jumped the shark in their music careers and the precise moment when it happened. These folks' credibility is gone forever, as they've become the captains of their own cheesy industries. They are not musicians anymore; their purpose is now to keep their brand alive by any means necessary. But name recognition doesn't mean much when fans no longer look to you for inspiration.

THERE'S MORE: See our gallery of all 10 musicians who jumped the shark.





ELTON JOHN

Moment jumped: Hair replacement surgery in 1990.
In the '70s Elton was a drug-fueled, balding, angry piano man. And he made some great music because of it. Then in 1990 he hit the wall. He cleaned up his act, battled his addictions, and got a hair transplant. Now he looks like a piano-playing Al Franken. But "The Red Piano," his Vegas show, was the moment when it went irretrievably bad. Bye-bye, Elton. I'll see you in my Captain Fantastic dreams.











JOHN MAYER

Moment jumped: Becoming starlet groupie in 2002.
Yes, the dude can play the blues. Yes, he knows how to seek out and hang with all of the right musical legends. Still, once he jumped on the celebrity dating train (Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jessica Simpson, Jennifer Aniston), he became more of a TMZ poster boy than a guitar hero.











ROD STEWART

Moment jumped: Releasing "It Had to Be You: The Great American Songbook" in 2002.
I'm being charitable here. Most would agree that Rod jumped the shark once the '80s came around. (Anyone remember 1983's "Body Wishes"?) Still, for fans clinging to hopes of a great Faces turnaround, those dreams were dashed forever when Rod the Mod reinvented himself as a third-rate Frank Sinatra, crooning standards for any hockey mom willing to listen.











SNOOP DOGG

Moment jumped: Appearing as Huggy Bear in 2004's "Starsky & Hutch" remake.
Snoop is in the business of being Snoop. That would be cool if Snoop was still any good. From obvious '70s and '80s pop culture references to obvious oddball pairings designed to make us say, "Oh, look at the gangsta guy doing the thing a gangsta guy would never do, like sing a country song or sing Bollywood. He's so crazy, that Snoop." It's all too predictable. Snoop is just connecting the dots, jumping one shark after another.













CHRIS CORNELL

Moment jumped: Forming Audioslave in 2001.
In the history of arranged musical marriages, Audioslave is the worst. The headiness of the former Rage Against the Machine members mixed with the hedonism of Cornell was not inspired. The union felt like a desperate move by a quickly aging post-grunge dude not wanting to fade away. Two solo albums and a James Bond film theme song aren't changing my mind. When you do the Bond theme song, you're not far from "Where are they now?" status.

There's five more in the link...
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Reply #1 posted 01/27/09 11:41pm

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eh,,,

i think some of them are just being wise. Mark McGrath?? musician? falloff

anyway. most of those guys have sold millions and millions of album and have plenty of songs to be remembered by. i was shocked to hear that Poison sold over 20 million albums. eek but damn..good for them. i didn't really see anyone selling out necessarily. Snoop is smart to go the acting route. most rappers have an even shorter shelf life than other "musicians" anyway. John Mayer has no reason to be included here. just because he's handsome and hollywood skanks want him doesn't make him a sell out. (yes i'm bitter. i want him!! lol) he's very talented and i think will have a lengthy and solid career. top 40 hits or not. Elvis Costello is intellegent, a great songwriter, and capapble actor. i don't really get if this article is giving this guys credit or knocking them for what just seems a wise career move or natural progression. Rod Stewart doing standards i think works really well for him.

back to Mark McGrath..he needed to go away before he ever debuted. who cares..his "music" (or rather 2 barely recognizaable songs) is better suited for commercial jingles than a life inspiring soundtrack. Elton John jumped the shark when he started giving Phil Collins a run for King of Disney soundtracks. he could've packed his piano up ages ago and his mouth while were at it. lol.

none the less they all except a couple have had good runs and made some decent if not great songs. so good for them. there is a list of people i wish would jump the shark and some i wish would just take a long walk off a short plank of the entertainment ship. lol
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Reply #2 posted 01/27/09 11:52pm

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They jumped the shark? How? confused As long as they're finding ways to make money after their music careers took a dip. And so what about the Elton John excerpt. If he was still the drug-addicted balding dude "who made great music" as you said was still in Elton, he'd probably die then they be like "why didn't he get well? He had so much going for him!" rolleyes
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Reply #3 posted 01/28/09 12:39am

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Timmy84 said:

They jumped the shark? How? confused As long as they're finding ways to make money after their music careers took a dip. And so what about the Elton John excerpt. If he was still the drug-addicted balding dude "who made great music" as you said was still in Elton, he'd probably die then they be like "why didn't he get well? He had so much going for him!" rolleyes



lol exactly!
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Reply #4 posted 01/28/09 1:14am

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guy must have had a deadline coming and absolutely NOTHING to write about. or he's just a hack. this is lazy and cliched, from the title, to the anecdote, to the selection of examples.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #5 posted 01/28/09 1:14am

Timmy84

errant said:

guy must have had a deadline coming and absolutely NOTHING to write about. or he's just a hack. this is lazy and cliched, from the title, to the anecdote, to the selection of examples.


Yahoo hired this writer for some reason... for what, I don't know, besides thinking he knows what the hell is great or annoying about music...
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Reply #6 posted 01/28/09 1:18am

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Timmy84 said:

errant said:

guy must have had a deadline coming and absolutely NOTHING to write about. or he's just a hack. this is lazy and cliched, from the title, to the anecdote, to the selection of examples.


Yahoo hired this writer for some reason... for what, I don't know, besides thinking he knows what the hell is great or annoying about music...



eh. i dunno. this shows about the same level of depth and talent as anything i've read on yahoo.

they aren't that picky.
"does my cock look fat in these jeans?"
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Reply #7 posted 01/28/09 1:23am

Timmy84

errant said:

Timmy84 said:



Yahoo hired this writer for some reason... for what, I don't know, besides thinking he knows what the hell is great or annoying about music...



eh. i dunno. this shows about the same level of depth and talent as anything i've read on yahoo.

they aren't that picky.


True, lol.
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Reply #8 posted 01/28/09 12:35pm

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Elton John? On what planet did he jump the shark? With the exception of a few poor albums one being 1986's "Leather Jackets", for someone that has 40 plus albums, i dont consider anything he would want to do "jumping the shark". He didnt kick all his addictions to jump the shark, he kicked because he would have been dead from either aids or an OD, but i guess thats a "sexier" legend.

And actually from 2001's "songs from the west coast" he's on top of his game, not bad for a 62 year old.

"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #9 posted 01/29/09 4:41pm

chuckaducci

Kanye's getting pretty close, if you ask me.
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Reply #10 posted 01/29/09 5:03pm

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The phrase "jump the shark" jumped the shark years ago. I wish people would just let it die.
"Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis
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Reply #11 posted 01/29/09 6:43pm

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SNOOP DOGG

Moment jumped: Appearing as Huggy Bear in 2004's "Starsky & Hutch" remake.
Snoop is in the business of being Snoop. That would be cool if Snoop was still any good. From obvious '70s and '80s pop culture references to obvious oddball pairings designed to make us say, "Oh, look at the gangsta guy doing the thing a gangsta guy would never do, like sing a country song or sing Bollywood. He's so crazy, that Snoop." It's all too predictable. Snoop is just connecting the dots, jumping one shark after another.


????

Just because he doesn't stay "gangsta" for too long?

I thought most people didn't like gangsta rap?

It's like "You ship hoppers suck!" then when they change it up "Oh you're out of control, get back to the hood!" rolleyes
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Reply #12 posted 01/29/09 6:44pm

Cinnie

Someone can't be a guitar hero once they start dating celebs? confuse I thought that was one of many duties of a guitar hero.
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Reply #13 posted 01/29/09 6:46pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

Someone can't be a guitar hero once they start dating celebs? confuse I thought that was one of many duties of a guitar hero.


Hell I thought when you play guitar and do it live, that's the purpose: to get pussy (celebrity pussy or not)! lol

What did this blogger think Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Nikki Sixx, B.B. King and all these guitar heroes were doing it for? Just to play? Sure Eric Clapton says he didn't do it to get girls but shit! falloff
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Reply #14 posted 01/29/09 7:11pm

japanrocks

lol

have not heard that phrase in a while

but the choices make no sense (Elton John, Chris Cornell?)

how about Flava Flav
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Reply #15 posted 01/30/09 2:54am

SoulAlive

Am I the only one who misses Sugar Ray? boxed Yes their music was lightweight,but it was fun and catchy.
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