trueiopian said:

No because I'm sure he's gone through the depigmentation thing. But back in 1986-1987, makeup was the case

oh and to the person who said Karyn faye was paid or whatever tell why would she lie about it she has nothing to gain? oh but I guess you people think mj pays everyone in the world off ( an easy copout instead of presenting facts for your arguments if you ask me) but whatever believe what you want.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...iYBRrRTwUg


oh and i still would like to see a valid picture of another black person who was medium/light brown skinned and turned completely white without having vitiligo and without dying or having Horrid burns on their skin, but i know i won't see one because there is no way to get as white as michael without having vitiligo

In an interview about 4-5 yrs. ago, MJ's mother said that he went through depigmentation therapy so he wouldn't look like a "spotted cow" (referring to the blotches on his skin from vitiligo). The umbrellas, long-sleeve shirts & pants are more than just fashion statements. As some folks already pointed out, his skin is very sensitive to sunlight. As with every condition, it's affects are different for everyone.
[Edited 1/28/09 14:23pm]

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Are you trying to say he wears white make- up now to cover up his actual skin tone?!?!?!?

if the majority of his skin is white the where is the sense in him spending 30/40 minutes a day painting himself down in brown makeup that is just stupid.it has nothing to do with wanting to be white it has to do with being pratical and doing what make sense. Beside being black is not just about skin color

[quote]In an interview about 4-5 yrs. ago, MJ's mother said that he went through depigmentation therapy so he wouldn't look like a "spotted cow" (referring to the blotches on his skin from vitiligo). The umbrellas, long-sleeve shirts & pants are more than just fashion statements. As some folks already pointed out, his skin is very sensitive to sunlight. As with every condition, it's affects are different for everyone.

i get what you're saying but she never actually used the word depigmentation therepy, she could have meant that or she could have meant he has enough money to go all the white with makeup and to afford a full time professional makeup artist. I may be wrong but we don't really know 100% what she meant

cdcgold said:

She would gain money! And I wonder why MJ fired her.... Hmmmmm

whatever dude

scorp84 said:

So what happens if MJ or anyone with vitiligo stays in the sun too long? Is there any toning down process to give him color? I don't know anything about vitiligo, so I'm just wondering.

trueiopian said:

She was a terrible makeup artist

trueiopian said:

Wasn't they dating a little while after his breakup from Lisa Marie? It was on Entertainment Tonight. I read somewhere, though not sure that it just didn't work out and she went her way. They say never date your boss.

angel345 said:

I doubt it, wasn't she married?

Timmy84 said:

She was, but ET stated that it was rocky. The footage is on YouTube.

angel345 said:

Even with that, I doubt a relationship occurred...

Timmy84 said:

Who knows?

angel345 said:

bboy87 said:

I'm sure there's another reason why...

trueiopian said:

I remember when she posted on the MJJF. Her name was Turkle, I guess she was bringing up a lot of secret, personal stuff between her and MJ. Afterwards, she either decided to leave the board or something because before or afterwards, MJ fired her, lol.

Timmy84 said:

Really!?!?! I never knew that.....

cdcgold said:[quote]
But in the initial stages of the condition majority of his skin would have been brown with white, blotches which would have been blatantly obvious, unless he covered it up with makeup of his original colour which he obviously wasn't doing. The gradual lightening of his complexion is just too convenient for vitiligo.

Michael said the condition happened between the OTW & Thriller and yet during this period Michael was very busy doing tours as well as releasing albums. And for anyone that has seen Michael in concert he sweats excessively, any so-called makeup he had on would have been sweated off and yet again and again all you kept seeing is even skin. The redness you sometimes saw on his face was probably due to excess bleaching or depigmentation not vitilgo. Vitiligo leaves white blotches, not red or caramel or biege blotches.

trueiopian said:

Yeah she got pissed with some of the mods too...

whatsgoingon said:[quote]

cdcgold said:

Exactly!!!!!

I love how no one is responding to this thread

Michael Jackson doesn't have vitiligo and thats that.

Timmy84 said:

So, how did he find out about this? Some people suspect that Prince blogs here secretly, but we don't know that.
[Edited 1/29/09 6:29am]

this is one of the few MJ topics i do NOT touch because only him and god know the absolute truth.

but there are a few things.....

- There is a such thing as sweatless make up- even then in the 80s. so its possible to see him in concert sweating without his make up running all over the place.

- there is a pic or two from that era (early 80s) i seen with slight patches on his face.

- the fact that mike pretty much became a recluse in the mid 80s says alot.

-as far as him wearing "whiter" make up in concerts ( it started during the latter half of the victory tour)....ehhh, i dunno. he's on his own.

SCNDLS said:

When I see pictures of "real" people with vitiligo,it's hard for me to believe that Michael actually has it One reason is...Michael has done so many other things to alter his appearance (nose jobs,plastic surgery,hair weaves),that it seems like lightning his skin was the next logical move.

I'll go ahead and give him the benefit of the doubt,but I can certainly see why many people don't believe that he has it.

I am critical and skeptical of a lot of things, but why would you think Michael doesn't have it?

Think of how rich he was by the time the disease would have in display.. you think you would ever see him with uneven skin except in rare cases like the "Don't Care About Us" pics Cloudbuster just posted?

The long sleeves, the umbrella, the surgeon mask.. that's because of vitiligo.

Cloudbuster said:

Convincing, except that last picture

Cinnie said:

All you need to do is watch the They Don't Care About Us video. It's as clear as fucking day.

angel345 said:

Nvncible1 said:

Umm, I would have to say that had more to do with his massive fame and popularity during that time--as Michaelmania pretty much took over the whole planet and Michael couldn't go anywhere without being mobbed or causing a near riot. The frenzy and hysteria he caused anytime he showed up anywhere and the massive, intense fame and scrutiny that Thriller brought on caused him to become a recluse IMO, not his supposed vitiligo.

Anyways, here is an interesting article I came across today:

Jan 28, 2009 9:00 am US/Eastern
Laser Treatment Offers Hope For Vitiligo Patients
Skin Condition Causes Pigment To Become Lighter In Spots

NEW YORK (CBS) ― Imagine developing a condition where you start to lose the color in your skin. It's called "vitiligo" and it affects millions of people in this country.

If you remember the King of Pop from his "Thriller" days, you might notice that his skin tone was what you would expect for an African-American. Today? Michael Jackson is as pale and milky white as a ghost.

What happened is he developed the skin condition, vitiligo, reports CBS station WCBS-TV.

"We think that Vitiligo is an autoimmune process where the body actually destroys the pigment cells," says Dr. Bruce Katz of the Juva Skin and Laser Center. "So, people eventually end up losing pigment, in extensive cases, all over their body."

And if you're dark-skinned, it can be terribly disfiguring. Creams and UV light treatments to replace the pigment cells have been mostly ineffective. So some people, like Jackson go the other way, bleaching the rest of their skin to match the white areas

"I'd never heard of it before, and when I was about 20 years old I noticed a spot right on my, underneath my chin here," says a local vitiligo patient named Jeff, who didn't want to use his last name.

Jeff is not as severely affected by it, but he has it on his neck, hands, and elbows.

"Absolutely it bothered me. I thought it was going to get better, [but] it spread and got worse," he says.

Now Jeff is having one of a series of 8 to 10 laser treatments for his vitiligo. It's a quick and painless procedure that actually stimulates new pigment cells to develop in the white areas.

"We found that in our patients with vitiligo, about 70 to 80 percent of the people actually get their color back," says Dr. Katz.

"It helped me a lot on my face. It's least effective on my hands, but on my face it's helped a lot," says Jeff.

It may take up to 10 treatment to re-pigment the area. The cost can run to over $1,000, but the effect seems to last. However, you can still develop new areas of vitiligo and they would also need treatment, of course.

http://cbs3.com/health/vi...20055.html