SoulAlive said:

Me too. It's very rare that an album with a million and one producers is even all that good, let alone great. It's sucks.

MJ has always wanted to create music that is hip, distinctive, original, not the same product that you see on the assembly line. He once said something like that. I believe that he wants to reach out to the younger generation, but doesn't want to lose the fanbase he has since his career started. Therefore, he wants to create music that people of all ages can enjoy. Maybe, he is just testing tracks with T-Pain because between him and Lil Wayne, younger audiences dig them and they're that bridge to create a new fanbase.

angel345 said:

I understand that he's a "pop" artist and to a certain extent,he's expected to keep up with the latest trends and styles.Nothing wrong with that.It just seems like he's trying too hard,repeating this same formula over and over.I mean,does he have to do a song with every "hot" hip hop or R&B artist? This has nothing to do with artistic inspiration.It looks like desperation.But I guess this is nothing new.Michael has always had the attitude of "Look how many famous friends I got"...."Look who I got on my album".The other day,I saw the "Liberian Girl" video and it just reinforced what Michael is all about...lol...also,notice at the end of the song "Whatever Happens",he has to make it clear that he's got Carlos on the song with him.

Cinnie said:

I think i know enough. Next time we chat, i will ask him about the 100m note on the mirror.

SoulAlive said:

lmfao "thank you carlos" just ruined the song IMO

SoulAlive said:

And those same artists that he works with can say "Hey, I've worked with Micheal Jackson". It works both ways.

question: What's the Number One R&B song right now? What's the Number One rap song right now?

I guarantee you....whoever it is,those people will appear on the next Michael Jackson CD

Marrk said:

Good. Clear that up for us wouldja?

SoulAlive said:

First:----LOL, GOD, you overanazlying things and in other words you see things that do not exist, its a freaking common fact the carlos santana is on the albums credits, and any other fan who truly knows about music would know that its santana whos playing the guitar, so that " look who I got on my album" sentence is really silly, and for your information santana said that it was a dream came true for him to work with MJ, he doesn't need santana to get buzz about his new album....Mj doesn't need the help if he wants to create buzz about his album..in fact he is very smart when it comes to lauch a new record

Second:--- I don't deny that Mj sometimes aims for commercials stuff and trends but who doesn't? and don't believe everything you read, I could show you a huge list of people who Probably worked with Mj on INVINICBLE and guess what? the majority of the list was proved to be False , it was all part of the a plan to get hype and buzz for the album back then .....

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Now back on topic about this silly statement continuously said by Prince fans that " MJ always want to top thriller", I really don't see the problem really, i believe that Mj wanted to top it artistic-wise Not sales-wise because he himslef knows that NO ONE can top thriller even himself, and as great artist you comepete against your preivous records , you want the next record to be greater than the previous record, why its a taboo for Mj to do this? I really don't understand, its the media and some people who want another thriller and the prime proof is that when Mj releases a new record then automatically compare it with thriller so the problem it not with Mj, its with people and the media.

about Mj working with t-pain? sorry guys but MJ would take a song form someone who cleaning toilets or anyone down the street if he really loved the song, he would take the song no matter who the person is, he has always been like this and he will always be like this , bashing him because he worked with T_pain before hearing the final record is really ridiculous , listen to the record first then you will have the right to judge.

Bye.

"From someone cleaning toilets..."

OK, seeingvoices12, put down the EBONY Michael article!

Timmy84 said:

Timmy84 said:

What ebony article?
and what do you mean?

Mj has been known for taking some songs from people who are not really famous, you want me to list the songs for you:roll:

seeingvoices12 said:

You said quote, unquote, "Michael will take songs from someone cleaning the toilets..."

That was TOTALLY paraphrased from the EBONY article where Mike mentioned he wanted to touch people from "the cleaning toilet lady from Harlem!"

I've seen some MJ fans repeat this at MJ boards it's hilarious!

Timmy84 said:

I said this to say that Mj would take songs from anyone no matter who the person is,I remember than MJ said that but it was never my intention to copy what he said, and i really don't remember he said that on ebony, in fact I don't have the ebony magazine, funny yo didn't comment on My " person down the street" comment..LOL, you are funny guy timmy.

seeingvoices12 said:

Hell, it's the same thing but you probably read it online. I know how y'all do.

lilgish said:

For now: Thumbs the hell down. But we'll see what that finished product sounds like..

Timmy84 said:

WTF , you obviously bored, are you? LOL

seeingvoices12 said:

No, I just see it... it's not hard to miss it actually especially when some of you write those long ass essays like I used to do.

Timmy84 said:

It is funny, but what about people paraphrasing dumb stories from the tabloids twenty years ago and claiming them as the factual truth, i find that equally funny.

Marrk said:

True!

Either way, it's hilarious, fan or non-fan.

Timmy84 said:

They are better than the negative short ass essays written by some orgers here believe me, I will critize Mj when critizism is due, some of you scared that you will look as an MJ fanatic on this website if you defend Mj, I have noticed that , trying to sound as much as less fanatic to the point where you lose your objectivity... LOL, I don't care what anyone says, If I see a stupid silly comment I will post and refute it.

seeingvoices12 said:

Well normally I don't participate in many negative MJ threads. When threads on MJ get really ridiculous, that's when I comment, lol.
[Edited 1/26/09 13:18pm]

Timmy84 said:

Notice when I commented On this thread, I commented on it when it really got ridiculous, and you don't find me posting on Mj threads about his personal life and defending him like most Mj fans do because no matter what i say its a lose battle and no one will be convinced,I commented on this because some said MJ used santana to get buzz for the album by closing the song with both saying their names , and thats really ridiculous.

seeingvoices12 said:

That's what I was saying, I understand your commenting but even then our comments don't get taken seriously. You notice how other MJ fans (except bboy and LittleBLUECorvette, Marrk and marni) continue discussing it debating with non-fans until it turns to flame wars?

Hardly threads on MJ's actual SONGS don't get as much coverage as his personal life or rumors about his new album.
[Edited 1/26/09 13:28pm]

I'm telling you guys, T-Pain can write a good hook. This could be good, and MJ would be singing.

Cinnie said:

This album sure sounds interesting... but like I said pages before, we'll see what happens.

Timmy84 said:

That's why as much as I dig MJ, I try to avoid commenting on too many of his threads, because I don't want to get involved in the flame wars, either. MJ fans vs Prince and Madonna fans, you know it's war.

angel345 said:

Exactly. I don't feel because you're a fan you have to always defend the person because people are gonna continue to say what they think regardless of how we feel about it.

Timmy84 said:

I can understand that, we all know that MJ is not perfect, no one is, and there are times where he was wrong and he deserves some critizim , what I don't agree is when people continuously here Downplay Mj's legacy as an artist,and you know that it reached its lowest level here on this board....you know that timmy ...right?

seeingvoices12 said:

That's why I don't participate unless it's to nWo that thread.