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eaglebear4839 said: If We All Get To Heaven
Wishing Well Dance Little Sister Let's Go Forward Seven More Days Rain Sign Your Name the rest of the tracks, to me, are filler, but overall this album is a GREAT debut - it's a shame we didn't really see him on the charts more. My favorite TTD album is Symphony Or Damn, and my favorite TTD song is "It's Been Said" - that song is a CLASSIC! Beautiful song but I think he's done better. My faves; Holding Onto You Let Her Down Easy Testify Some Birds Blue What Shall I do Sign Your Name Delicate I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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AlexdeParis said: I don't even think it's his best album; that would be Symphony or Damn followed by Vibrator.
'WildCard' is my favorite TTD album. Then Symphony or Damn, Vibrator, Introducing . . . , Neither Fish nor Flesh . . . I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. |
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SUPRMAN said: AlexdeParis said: I don't even think it's his best album; that would be Symphony or Damn followed by Vibrator.
'WildCard' is my favorite TTD album. Then Symphony or Damn, Vibrator, Introducing . . . , Neither Fish nor Flesh . . . That one is my fave.  | |
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damosuzuki said: Brendan said: I’m riding with you. There are thousands of great albums (no weak tracks and incredible all the way through). But of course nothing created will ever truly be flawless. But they are “flawless” in the sense that they are the best of the best and if anyone touches a single note I’ll take after their kneecaps with a steel bat. 
And I truly believe that something like 5 or 10 percent of all albums created are great or near great (less in some genres, more in others, much higher amongst the greatest musical artists). And considering how much music has been recorded, there won’t nearly be enough time to enjoy it all. And I wouldn't call "5 or 10 percent" easy. i guess it's just how technical you want to get about calling something great. i don't want to get lost in details, but by the definition of the word i'd think something great would have to be reasonably rare. i'd probably only be able to name maybe a dozen albums I own that i'd call 'universally' great (as opposed to something i just love due to my personal quirks, like the fall), & most of them would be by dylan & the stones. It’s all semantics until somebody gets hurt.
If something scored in the 97th percentile, I’d call that great, but not necessarily rare. Then we could keep shaking out the greatness until we reached whatever level of rarity we were trying to achieve. If I were to quickly skim a few off the top of my grand list that I’ll never fully experience, it might look something like this: [1] Sign “O” the Times [Prince] - 14 of its 16 songs would to me qualify as classics. Stupefying. A darkened metropolis always buzzing in the most profound key. For me it still slightly trumps the “1999” listening experience and its perfect 11 for 11. 
[2] Blood on the Tracks [Bob Dylan] - Dylan probably has more masterpieces and near masterpieces than anyone since the dawn of recorded sound, but if I could just cherry pick one for this indulgence. 
[3] Songs in the Key of Life [Stevie Wonder] – You can feel it all over. When something can supply this much ecstasy, even years later, you’ve started to glimpse the highest possibilities of art. Other Wonders might have more daunting statistics, but great albums to me are just as much about the intangibles. Perfection isn’t about being perfect. 
[4] Are You Experienced? [Jimi Hendrix] Will such heights ever be scaled again with a debut? If you squeeze this album hard enough, vitamins are displaced. 
[5] What’s Going On [Marvin Gaye] Nothing this painfully reflective ever felt this preposterously good. This isn’t some desert-island keepsake, it’s the whole damn island. 
[6] The Hissing of Summer Lawns [Joni Mitchell] – Joni took the pop/folk mastery of her past and assimilated it with the jazz of her future and somehow paved an impenetrable bond that I’ll be treading on forever. 
I’ll stop my “flawless” here before I get carried away with the hundreds that are missing… [Edited 1/24/09 18:37pm] | |
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AlexdeParis said: Brendan said: I’m riding with you. There are thousands of great albums (no weak tracks and incredible all the way through). But of course nothing created will ever truly be flawless. But they are “flawless” in the sense that they are the best of the best and if anyone touches a single note I’ll take after their kneecaps with a steel bat.
And I truly believe that something like 5 or 10 percent of all albums created are great or near great (less in some genres, more in others, much higher amongst the greatest musical artists). And considering how much music has been recorded, there won’t nearly be enough time to enjoy it all. And I wouldn't call "5 or 10 percent" easy. I think we're on the same page. I'm not sure if I'd go as high as 5-10%, but there are a lot of albums I'd list as great or "flawless" in the sense that they are a rewarding listen all the way through. I'd have to say Stevie Wonder leads the pack with a half dozen of qualified candidates. I’ll try to explain my percentages more completely. If one is open to all forms of music, I would estimate that perhaps 1 to 2 percent would rate as 4 stars, while the rest of that percentage would be 3.5 stars. Then you have a massive percentage at 3, 2.5 and 2 , and then on the worst end things fortunately get narrow again. I believe that the more something starts taking on the shape of a bell curve, the less subjectivity (or bias) is getting in the way of our own potential joy. So if you have a half million recordings, that’s only estimating that 5,000 to 10,000 of these recordings would pan out as 4-star albums. That’s really a tiny sample. But the recorded output is so massive now that you’ll never see me feigning boredom. | |
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any album by omara portuondo is flawless!  | |
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namepeace said: jonylawson said:  Well, I wouldn't say that now, but I would say that it's the best album I heard all year, and I might consider it flawless after it settles in for a year or so. Ohhhh Shit...I was about to put this album up, THIS ALBUM IS ABSOLUTELY FLAWLESS!!!!  "Johnny Is Dead" alone is worth the price of this cd.It's a freaking masterpiece and I hate hip-hop.[Edited 1/24/09 19:25pm] | |
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Brendan said: damosuzuki said: i guess it's just how technical you want to get about calling something great. i don't want to get lost in details, but by the definition of the word i'd think something great would have to be reasonably rare. i'd probably only be able to name maybe a dozen albums I own that i'd call 'universally' great (as opposed to something i just love due to my personal quirks, like the fall), & most of them would be by dylan & the stones. It’s all semantics until somebody gets hurt.
If something scored in the 97th percentile, I’d call that great, but not necessarily rare. Then we could keep shaking out the greatness until we reached whatever level of rarity we were trying to achieve. If I were to quickly skim a few off the top of my grand list that I’ll never fully experience, it might look something like this: [1] Sign “O” the Times [Prince] - 14 of its 16 songs would to me qualify as classics. Stupefying. A darkened metropolis always buzzing in the most profound key. For me it still slightly trumps the “1999” listening experience and its perfect 11 for 11.
[2] Blood on the Tracks [Bob Dylan] - Dylan probably has more masterpieces and near masterpieces than anyone since the dawn of recorded sound, but if I could just cherry pick one for this indulgence.
[3] Songs in the Key of Life [Stevie Wonder] – You can feel it all over. When something can supply this much ecstasy, even years later, you’ve started to glimpse the highest possibilities of art. Other Wonders might have more daunting statistics, but great albums to me are just as much about the intangibles. Perfection isn’t about being perfect.
[4] Are You Experienced? [Jimi Hendrix] Will such heights ever be scaled again with a debut? If you squeeze this album hard enough, vitamins are displaced.
[5] What’s Going On [Marvin Gaye] Nothing this painfully reflective ever felt this preposterously good. This isn’t some desert-island keepsake, it’s the whole damn island.
[6] The Hissing of Summer Lawns [Joni Mitchell] – Joni took the pop/folk mastery of her past and assimilated it with the jazz of her future and somehow paved an impenetrable bond that I’ll be treading on forever.
I’ll stop my “flawless” here before I get carried away with the hundreds that are missing… [Edited 1/24/09 18:37pm]  Thats cool, 2 of my choices are there. You have great tasteSo what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time | |
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Huggiebear said: Brendan said: It’s all semantics until somebody gets hurt.
If something scored in the 97th percentile, I’d call that great, but not necessarily rare. Then we could keep shaking out the greatness until we reached whatever level of rarity we were trying to achieve. If I were to quickly skim a few off the top of my grand list that I’ll never fully experience, it might look something like this: [1] Sign “O” the Times [Prince] - 14 of its 16 songs would to me qualify as classics. Stupefying. A darkened metropolis always buzzing in the most profound key. For me it still slightly trumps the “1999” listening experience and its perfect 11 for 11.
[2] Blood on the Tracks [Bob Dylan] - Dylan probably has more masterpieces and near masterpieces than anyone since the dawn of recorded sound, but if I could just cherry pick one for this indulgence.
[3] Songs in the Key of Life [Stevie Wonder] – You can feel it all over. When something can supply this much ecstasy, even years later, you’ve started to glimpse the highest possibilities of art. Other Wonders might have more daunting statistics, but great albums to me are just as much about the intangibles. Perfection isn’t about being perfect.
[4] Are You Experienced? [Jimi Hendrix] Will such heights ever be scaled again with a debut? If you squeeze this album hard enough, vitamins are displaced.
[5] What’s Going On [Marvin Gaye] Nothing this painfully reflective ever felt this preposterously good. This isn’t some desert-island keepsake, it’s the whole damn island.
[6] The Hissing of Summer Lawns [Joni Mitchell] – Joni took the pop/folk mastery of her past and assimilated it with the jazz of her future and somehow paved an impenetrable bond that I’ll be treading on forever.
I’ll stop my “flawless” here before I get carried away with the hundreds that are missing… [Edited 1/24/09 18:37pm] Thats cool, 2 of my choices are there. You have great tasteI appreciate that. It kind of balances out with those who’d like to take the claw end of a hammer to my tongue. And probably deservedly so on many cases. | |
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lots of interesting picks here [Edited 1/27/09 10:36am] If you will, so will I | |
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