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Reply #30 posted 01/21/09 12:04pm

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Timmy84 said:

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Only if those groups are performing here as part of an outdoor music festival. For instance, two or three rock groups perform, then afterwards, someone like The Barkays or The SOS Band might perform later into the night. There are those white people that kind of just hang around afterwards (usually because they are drunk and aren't ready to go home). If someone like The Barkays comes to a venue on their own, I'm usually the only white face in the place. Now, it's completely different with someone like James Brown (when he was living) or George Clinton. Those are groups that have been absolutely worn out over the years and gotten a lot of good press by white magazines like "Rolling Stone" over the years. At those type of concerts, the majority of the audience will be the artsy/fartsy type older whites or white college students who call themselves "exploring black music and culture". lol


Exactly! And JB and Clinton were moderately accepted by the mainstream as it was, lol. You'd never see them going to see the Barkays or the SOS Band because they're not familiar with it, they only hear one or two black bands and then claim they know exactly what black music is, if all you think of black music is Michael Jackson, Prince, James Brown, George Clinton, Sly Stone, Little Richard and Chuck Berry, do some more research! lol

This goes out to not only white kids but black kids, young Latinos, Asians and others... there's more to music, especially of the black kind, then you think! ESPECIALLY the songs hip-hop artists have randomly sampled over the years!!! lol


It's really funny over in the "Prince: Music and More" section sometimes when someone will argue you down that they know funk. But when you ask them to list some groups, it's always someone like James Brown, Sly and The Family Stone or George Clinton who has been written about by pop/rock critics for years. Then you get those that go a little further and mention Graham Central Station or Maceo Parker. Well, you know where they've heard of those groups from don't you? They've heard Prince talk about them. lol
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Reply #31 posted 01/21/09 12:07pm

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It's really funny over in the "Prince: Music and More" section sometimes when someone will argue you down that they know funk. But when you ask them to list some groups, it's always someone like James Brown, Sly and The Family Stone or George Clinton who has been written about by pop/rock critics for years. Then you get those that go a little further and mention Graham Central Station or Maceo Parker. Well, you know where they've heard of those groups from don't you? They've heard Prince talk about them. lol


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Reply #32 posted 01/21/09 12:23pm

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It's really funny over in the "Prince: Music and More" section sometimes when someone will argue you down that they know funk. But when you ask them to list some groups, it's always someone like James Brown, Sly and The Family Stone or George Clinton who has been written about by pop/rock critics for years. Then you get those that go a little further and mention Graham Central Station or Maceo Parker. Well, you know where they've heard of those groups from don't you? They've heard Prince talk about them. lol


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What gets me is when they classify certain pop-rock songs as "funky". It's NO WAY that someone in their right mind can classify a song like "Right The Wrong" or "Dinner With Delores" as funky.
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Reply #33 posted 01/21/09 12:29pm

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It's really funny over in the "Prince: Music and More" section sometimes when someone will argue you down that they know funk. But when you ask them to list some groups, it's always someone like James Brown, Sly and The Family Stone or George Clinton who has been written about by pop/rock critics for years. Then you get those that go a little further and mention Graham Central Station or Maceo Parker. Well, you know where they've heard of those groups from don't you? They've heard Prince talk about them. lol


Yeah and ONLY them! falloff


What trips me out is when I call some them out on it and ask them how they are such a funk expert when the only funk groups they know are the ones Prince has mentioned. I get responses like....well Prince knows because he is a musician and you're not. Well, duh, I'm a consumer and there is a whole world of funk out there other than just the artists that Prince grew up on.

Hell, he grew up in Minneapolis. I remember one of his protegees telling "Right On" magazine that all the black stations in their area when they were growing up had a weak signal that would fade in and out so they mainly heard the beat and since the other stations were white, that's why they had such diverse taste. Well, I grew up in Mississippi in a city that was 40 percent black (it's 80 percent now). We've always had plenty of black stations and plenty of funk. lol
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Reply #34 posted 01/21/09 12:30pm

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Yeah and ONLY them! falloff

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What gets me is when they classify certain pop-rock songs as "funky". It's NO WAY that someone in their right mind can classify a song like "Right The Wrong" or "Dinner With Delores" as funky.


RIGHT! lol I don't know what is so "funky" about "Dinner with Delores". That's as funky as a tortoise! lol
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Reply #35 posted 01/21/09 12:31pm

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Timmy84 said:



Yeah and ONLY them! falloff

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What gets me is when they classify certain pop-rock songs as "funky". It's NO WAY that someone in their right mind can classify a song like "Right The Wrong" or "Dinner With Delores" as funky.


Or "I Wanna Dance With Somebody That Loves Me". lol
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Reply #36 posted 01/21/09 12:32pm

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What trips me out is when I call some them out on it and ask them how they are such a funk expert when the only funk groups they know are the ones Prince has mentioned. I get responses like....well Prince knows because he is a musician and you're not. Well, duh, I'm a consumer and there is a whole world of funk out there other than just the artists that Prince grew up on.

Hell, he grew up in Minneapolis. I remember one of his protegees telling "Right On" magazine that all the black stations in their area when they were growing up had a weak signal that would fade in and out so they mainly heard the beat and since the other stations were white, that's why they had such diverse taste. Well, I grew up in Mississippi in a city that was 40 percent black (it's 80 percent now). We've always had plenty of black stations and plenty of funk. lol


Yeah, it depends on where you grew up in. In Prince's case, he probably felt he had no choice: he came from MINNEAPOLIS! lol It's even funnier they do play more funk here in the South than they do elsewhere! lol
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Reply #37 posted 01/21/09 12:36pm

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What trips me out is when I call some them out on it and ask them how they are such a funk expert when the only funk groups they know are the ones Prince has mentioned. I get responses like....well Prince knows because he is a musician and you're not. Well, duh, I'm a consumer and there is a whole world of funk out there other than just the artists that Prince grew up on.

Hell, he grew up in Minneapolis. I remember one of his protegees telling "Right On" magazine that all the black stations in their area when they were growing up had a weak signal that would fade in and out so they mainly heard the beat and since the other stations were white, that's why they had such diverse taste. Well, I grew up in Mississippi in a city that was 40 percent black (it's 80 percent now). We've always had plenty of black stations and plenty of funk. lol


Yeah, it depends on where you grew up in. In Prince's case, he probably felt he had no choice: he came from MINNEAPOLIS! lol It's even funnier they do play more funk here in the South than they do elsewhere! lol


Hell, Memphis is only about 250 miles from me and you know how much funk and R&B they had coming from Stax Records back in the 70s. Not to mention The Barkays (who still live there).
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Reply #38 posted 01/21/09 12:40pm

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Hell, Memphis is only about 250 miles from me and you know how much funk and R&B they had coming from Stax Records back in the 70s. Not to mention The Barkays (who still live there).


The Holy Ghost, Freakshow, Shake Your Rump AND Hit & Run DO get played here in NC too. nod But yeah I know what you mean about not being too far from Memphis. wink
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