Karen71 said:

Derek still a cutie but he's not looking as good as he did in Biker Boys. Maybe he should go back to the bald head.

Ottensen said:

I swear to God I read in Vibe, in the issue with their first photospread, that it was only 9 days. Plus Faith's Wiki page also says 9 days. Harley, I know you read her autobiography, does she say how many days it was?

Harlepolis said:

shorttrini said:

Well, he didn't have his daughter until his late teens, so he dealt drugs for 5-6 years for no other reason than to satisfy his selfish desires. However, you're saying it's okay for him to do so to support his kid, which is just crazy IMO, especially since his mother was showing him everyday the RIGHT way to support your family. So, trynta say he did it for babygirl is a stretch. For REAL.

SCNDLS said:

Yeah, his mom showed him, or at least tried too. Remember, there wasn't a real positive role model in his life. So, when he saw that type of money that he was bringing in, he got caught up in it. When his daughter was born, even though he knew that dealing was really not the thing to do; He had to make money quick and to him, that was the solution. His reasons for doing what he did, changed as his focus changed.

shorttrini said:

Sorry, but I'm not convinced that Biggie or ANY drug dealer for that matter is doing so to support their family. They MAY break their baby mama off some, but they are dealing MOSTLY to maintain their OWN lifestyle. It's not as deep as ya'll wanna make it.

SCNDLS said:

Do you know this for fact? Do you know any personally? Or are you just making a judgement statement. I know a few, while most of them are doing are doing it for sport, the remainder are doing it to help out their family situation. Does that make what are doing okay? No. I never said it did. But, when people make a mistake they have to deal with the consequences of their actions. My friends are doing just that and taking care of their responsibilities at the same time.

shorttrini said:

I've known drug dealers, even dated a few when I was in college. And I know enough to KNOW that MOST drug dealers are in it to a large degree to indulge in the trappings of that life: cars, rims, jewelry, women, and other material things. Like I said, they may break their families off but I'd bet they spend much more on themselves rather than saving for their kids college fund. So, nah, even those that kinda take care of theirs still don't get a pass.
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I'm still sick as hell from a flu, but couldn't help to come back here for a brief (and yes,judgemental) reaction to the incredible biased way about how Miss Misha's way of handling a situation is slain here...unbelievable.
It's imo shortsightened for someone to assume that he/she is SO sure about his/her relationship and therefor is positively certain that their partner isn't living a second life. Above that they're feeling they're the know-it-all and blame someone for not having a clue about that second life in an earlier stage of their relationship.
Yes, it was an unfortunate situation with risks, but Miss Misha managed to provide for herself and her son (which people seem to overlook BIG time here), and her partner contributed to the lifeneeds as well.
Dealing drugs is a BIG no indeed, but from what i read is that her partner was in the sitution of being constantly rejected by Companies where he signed for a job.
And yes, it would be the best choice if you stay persistant, which might get one that job offer in the end.
Thing is that we can't look in someone's life-pattern to make their choices ... it's up to them and no one else.

The reason why your grandparents stayed together for so long (and mine as well) was because your grandma probably didn't work or have enough income for her to live on her own. She needed to work things out with grandpa and make sure they stayed together. She probably also shut her mouth and did what she was supposed to do to keep her husband happy. MOST women these days won't do that (especially American women)... with their bitchy-ass, "independent-woman" attitudes. It is a different time now versus back in the day of our grandparents.

MsMisha319 said:

cinnamongirl24 said:

Talk about being off topic, this thread has gone so far off. The title of this thread is no longer applies. There should be another thread for those of us who actually want to discuss the movie.
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Cinnie said:

I'm a man that wants my lady to speak up for herself and be independent. I want to know she is capable of taking care of herself

This topic needs to close. Too much off topic banter it's beyond ridiculous...

I just watched the movie and I have to say that although I've never been a fan of BIG, I did see a side of him that we didn't see when he was around. It also gave viewers a result when you're young, talented, and successful in the music industry

It's a shame that it seems he was starting to change his outlook and direction of his life when he was murdered

cinnamongirl24 said:

I'm sorry but is your post for real?

x 100000 @ this summary of the movie:

VoicesCarry said:

Biggie is both a c**t AND Jesus

Cinnie said:

Why not?

VoicesCarry said:

No shit you'd want that from your woman... as you should! This is a different time. I'm sure if you were living in the 50's or 60's when Misha's grandparents were together, you would want your woman to do as she is told.

LiquidGold said:

LiquidGold said:

Cinnamon already touched on it.. life years ago wasn't as it is today.. 2 people working today makes everything much easier .. whereas 50 years ago 1 person working was enough...

shorttrini said:

Actually, the money he made hustling was used to pay lawyers and to get him out of jail (bail). He always stressed that and said that cycle really influenced him to do something better with his life. He wasn't a saint by any means but he wasn't the devil reincarnated either.

MRGee said:

LOL, Lil Kim portrayed herself as a hoe in real life and thats how she is portrayed in the movie, end of story. I did get further insight as to why she has so many low self esteem issues as the movie reveals how b4 she met Big, her bfriend was using her as a punching bag. I wonder did Lil Kim really fuck Big on the first date? Lol

goat2004 said:

That's interesting since she has knifed her face up so many times that it truly does resemble a punching bag these days.

cinnamongirl24 said:

I'm not so sure. All the women in my family worked in the 30's, 40's, and so on. It really wasn't an option for them to stay home then. They also ran the house and it was never an issue with the men in my family as far as I know

LiquidGold said:

In general, black women have never had the option NOT to work.

Karen71 said:

I saw it two days ago. I thought the movie was well scripted and acted. I'm a huge Angela Bassett fan but for the first time I can honestly say she was outshined by another actor for the first time, the guy that played Biggie. His performance just wow. I'd recommend this movie to anyone that likes a good movie and loves good music.

cinnamongirl24 said:

WTF? When and how did this turn into a discussion about my grandparents? I mentioned them once, like, 7 pages ago...and that was only to counter what someone else said.

I think you're the one I sent the orgnote to, stating that you are WAAAAYYYYY off base about MY grandparents. My grandmother worked and actually had more money than my grandfather. And the only time she shut her mouth was when she died. So thanks for assuming, but again, you know what they say about those who assume.....




Why hasn't this thread been locked?


Smooches;)

kcherisse1977 said:

I agree Gravy did an impressive job, and Angela was outshined for the first time in her professional life. "Biggie" and "Puff" just took over the screen.