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Printablesassybritches said: shorttrini said: If you were to go back and read my post, you will see that I do not agree with that kind of behavior, but I can understand why someone would resort to selling drugs to get money. Let me asked you a question, Do you always make the right choices? Have you ever been in a situation where you had to make a choice that you were not proud of? It seems to me that you as well some others on this board have the attitude that "that can never happen to me". To that I say....."WOW!! REALLY??" please...i can speak on the matter because i've been jobless and broke. not with kids, no, but i've still had to go hungry some nights. and i worked my ass off to get out of that situation. i've never sold drugs and lord knows the option has been there and lord knows i could have justified it. but i dont want to benefit at the expense of others and only those disgusting creatures disguised as men, like biggie, would find it within themselves to justify it. Ok. When you have kids, then we will continue this discussion. Until then, you have no idea of what you are talking about. I would in no way endanger the life of my daughter. I would take every necessary precaution to make sure that she was not in harms way. Again, I am not saying that what people like Biggie did was right, I am just saying that I can understand why he did it. That's all. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: sassybritches said: please...i can speak on the matter because i've been jobless and broke. not with kids, no, but i've still had to go hungry some nights. and i worked my ass off to get out of that situation. i've never sold drugs and lord knows the option has been there and lord knows i could have justified it. but i dont want to benefit at the expense of others and only those disgusting creatures disguised as men, like biggie, would find it within themselves to justify it. Ok. When you have kids, then we will continue this discussion. Until then, you have no idea of what you are talking about. I would in no way endanger the life of my daughter. I would take every necessary precaution to make sure that she was not in harms way. Again, I am not saying that what people like Biggie did was right, I am just saying that I can understand why he did it. That's all. I have kids, and I disagree with you.... There is NO WAY IN HELL that I would even consider jeopardizing my kids like that. It's called get a goddamned job, and don't stop looking until you find one. People who make excuses for not being able to take care of their business shouldn't consider having kids. | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: shorttrini said: Ok. When you have kids, then we will continue this discussion. Until then, you have no idea of what you are talking about. I would in no way endanger the life of my daughter. I would take every necessary precaution to make sure that she was not in harms way. Again, I am not saying that what people like Biggie did was right, I am just saying that I can understand why he did it. That's all. I have kids, and I disagree with you.... There is NO WAY IN HELL that I would even consider jeopardizing my kids like that. It's called get a goddamned job, and don't stop looking until you find one. People who make excuses for not being able to take care of their business shouldn't consider having kids. Well guess what, there are some employers who are just not going to take a chance on somebody with a record, it's just that simple, if they do, they are not going to pay that you enough to make ends meet....that's just reality, especially in today's economy. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: GetAwayFromMe said: I have kids, and I disagree with you.... There is NO WAY IN HELL that I would even consider jeopardizing my kids like that. It's called get a goddamned job, and don't stop looking until you find one. People who make excuses for not being able to take care of their business shouldn't consider having kids. Well guess what, there are some employers who are just not going to take a chance on somebody with a record, it's just that simple, if they do, they are not going to pay that you enough to make ends meet....that's just reality, especially in today's economy. OK, well this is going to be very blunt. Don't have kids if you can't take care of them. If you have a record? That's your problem, don't have kids then. Get two jobs, you just don't get it, do you? | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: shorttrini said: Well guess what, there are some employers who are just not going to take a chance on somebody with a record, it's just that simple, if they do, they are not going to pay that you enough to make ends meet....that's just reality, especially in today's economy. OK, well this is going to be very blunt. Don't have kids if you can't take care of them. If you have a record? That's your problem, don't have kids then. Get two jobs, you just don't get it, do you? I get it very well, one has nothing to do with the other. There are some out there that feel minimum wage and waiting around for that paycheck, is just not going to do. Especially, when that baby needs Pampers and milk. You needs a quick solution and to some, not me, dealing is the answer. Nothing is written in stone, you and I could both lose our jobs tomorrow. It all depends on your situation. You cannot sit there and tell me that what is right for you, is gonna be right for somebody else. In the same token, you cannot judge a person for doing what he feels as necessary at the time. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: GetAwayFromMe said: OK, well this is going to be very blunt. Don't have kids if you can't take care of them. If you have a record? That's your problem, don't have kids then. Get two jobs, you just don't get it, do you? I get it very well, one has nothing to do with the other. There are some out there that feel minimum wage and waiting around for that paycheck, is just not going to do. Especially, when that baby needs Pampers and milk. You needs a quick solution and to some, not me, dealing is the answer. Nothing is written in stone, you and I could both lose our jobs tomorrow. It all depends on your situation. You cannot sit there and tell me that what is right for you, is gonna be right for somebody else. In the same token, you cannot judge a person for doing what he feels as necessary at the time. please. WIC, local churches, and plenty of CBOs are out there for that very reason. crime is not necessary. ever. An individualist is a man who lives for his own sake and by his own mind; he neither sacrifices himself to others nor sacrifices others to himself... | |
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shorttrini said: GetAwayFromMe said: OK, well this is going to be very blunt. Don't have kids if you can't take care of them. If you have a record? That's your problem, don't have kids then. Get two jobs, you just don't get it, do you? I get it very well, one has nothing to do with the other. There are some out there that feel minimum wage and waiting around for that paycheck, is just not going to do. Especially, when that baby needs Pampers and milk. You needs a quick solution and to some, not me, dealing is the answer. Nothing is written in stone, you and I could both lose our jobs tomorrow. It all depends on your situation. You cannot sit there and tell me that what is right for you, is gonna be right for somebody else. In the same token, you cannot judge a person for doing what he feels as necessary at the time. I can, and I will judge someone who deems it necessary to break the law in order to make money. And I have two jobs, because I take care of everything financially when it comes to my child. I work seven days straight. Although I am biased, I admit, because I was raised by a police officer.  There is something called being a responsible parent. Babies should be planned, not thrust into a situation like that. IMO. | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: shorttrini said: I get it very well, one has nothing to do with the other. There are some out there that feel minimum wage and waiting around for that paycheck, is just not going to do. Especially, when that baby needs Pampers and milk. You needs a quick solution and to some, not me, dealing is the answer. Nothing is written in stone, you and I could both lose our jobs tomorrow. It all depends on your situation. You cannot sit there and tell me that what is right for you, is gonna be right for somebody else. In the same token, you cannot judge a person for doing what he feels as necessary at the time. I can, and I will judge someone who deems it necessary to break the law in order to make money. And I have two jobs, because I take care of everything financially when it comes to my child. I work seven days straight. Although I am biased, I admit, because I was raised by a police officer. There is something called being a responsible parent. Babies should be planned, not thrust into a situation like that. IMO.You know, I agree that babies should be planned, but sometimes things just don't go the way we planned them to go. I think when a parent does things that he feels necessary to provide for their child, they are being a responsible parent. Let me asked you, Do you live in the hood? "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: GetAwayFromMe said: I can, and I will judge someone who deems it necessary to break the law in order to make money. And I have two jobs, because I take care of everything financially when it comes to my child. I work seven days straight. Although I am biased, I admit, because I was raised by a police officer. There is something called being a responsible parent. Babies should be planned, not thrust into a situation like that. IMO.You know, I agree that babies should be planned, but sometimes things just don't go the way we planned them to go. I think when a parent does things that he feels necessary to provide for their child, they are being a responsible parent. Let me asked you, Do you live in the hood? What does that have to do with anything? Are you really gonna go there? Be very careful before you say something offensive. | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: shorttrini said: You know, I agree that babies should be planned, but sometimes things just don't go the way we planned them to go. I think when a parent does things that he feels necessary to provide for their child, they are being a responsible parent. Let me asked you, Do you live in the hood? What does that have to do with anything? Are you really gonna go there? Be very careful before you say something offensive. Well, if you have not lived in a certain place, then you have no idea what goes on there. All one would know, is what they read in the paper or see on T.V.. Again, I am not saying what biggie choose to do was right or wrong. What I am saying is that it was his choice and for somebody to judge another human being simply because of the choice they made is wrong. This country, as twisted as it can be sometimes, is good because of that reason. For anybody to judge another, without knowing how that person lives, is wrong. Lastly, the mere fact that you assumed that I was going to say something offense proves my point. You don't me, but, you just assumed that I was say something to offend you. [Edited 1/18/09 17:14pm] "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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GetAwayFromMe said: MsMisha319 said: Well, if you are selling drugs to take care of your children, then yes, they come into the picture. You're doing it to support them. However, you don't have to have your children around it. I was in a relationship for 2 years and didn't know that my ex was selling drugs. He never brought it in our home...or atleast, I NEVER saw it. No one ever came to our home to buy it and we lived in the city. I never even suspected such a thing. I was SHOCKED to say the least, when I found out. And though he was an extremely smart guy, like many black men, he did some things in his past. Therefore, no employer was eager to hire him, so he did what he had to do. He provided everything that was needed for our son and, like I said, I never knew he had this side thing going on. And though I was working and more than able to provide my son, I appreciated every bit he did to help. Regardless. I know he never put our son in any danger. Though he may have put himself in danger, he did it for a reason. Smooches;) Errrr.... 
Smart and drug dealer don't go together in the same sentence, sorry. He wasn't smart, he was lucky. Had he been found out, he would've been in jail and you would've lost your kid. He DID put your son in danger, you just weren't aware of it. Although, just HOW you were that blind I have no idea. It's sad to me that can justify that situation, because if a man put me in that position, while hiding it from me, I would be ashamed of myself. And then I'd kick his ass out. I meant smart as in, school smart. He wasn't an idiot, but he did stupid things when he was younger that got him into trouble. 
And though you are entitled to your opinion, I don't agree with it. We were NEVER in danger. And sweetheart, people do things all the time, that others aren't aware of. Your significant other could be cheating on you and leading a double life, and you may not know it  I'm not ashamed of anything, as I did nothing wrong. He did what he did. So what? In the end, he never got in trouble for it and he provided, as he should have. Again, not saying what he did was [i]right[/], but it is what it is.
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Timmy84 said: MsMisha319 said: Well, if you are selling drugs to take care of your children, then yes, they come into the picture. You're doing it to support them. However, you don't have to have your children around it. I was in a relationship for 2 years and didn't know that my ex was selling drugs. He never brought it in our home...or atleast, I NEVER saw it. No one ever came to our home to buy it and we lived in the city. I never even suspected such a thing. I was SHOCKED to say the least, when I found out. And though he was an extremely smart guy, like many black men, he did some things in his past. Therefore, no employer was eager to hire him, so he did what he had to do. He provided everything that was needed for our son and, like I said, I never knew he had this side thing going on. And though I was working and more than able to provide my son, I appreciated every bit he did to help. Regardless. I know he never put our son in any danger. Though he may have put himself in danger, he did it for a reason. Smooches;) I don't mean to get in your business but I wonder if your boyfriend at the time couldn't get a job BECAUSE he had been arrested for offenses before...  If that's the case, I guess then he had no choice... but I guess that's what happens when people put themselves in positions that they can't escape from because it still leads to death and/or prison and that sucks but then again so is life and the hands we're dealt. That's when I'm glad Jay-Z turned his life around and decided to stay away from trouble that BIG unfortunately didn't or couldn't escape from.Um, yes  I thought that was clear in what I typed. Maybe not.
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MsMisha319 said: GetAwayFromMe said: Errrr....
Smart and drug dealer don't go together in the same sentence, sorry. He wasn't smart, he was lucky. Had he been found out, he would've been in jail and you would've lost your kid. He DID put your son in danger, you just weren't aware of it. Although, just HOW you were that blind I have no idea. It's sad to me that can justify that situation, because if a man put me in that position, while hiding it from me, I would be ashamed of myself. And then I'd kick his ass out. I meant smart as in, school smart. He wasn't an idiot, but he did stupid things when he was younger that got him into trouble.
And though you are entitled to your opinion, I don't agree with it. We were NEVER in danger. And sweetheart, people do things all the time, that others aren't aware of. Your significant other could be cheating on you and leading a double life, and you may not know it I'm not ashamed of anything, as I did nothing wrong. He did what he did. So what? In the end, he never got in trouble for it and he provided, as he should have. Again, not saying what he did was [i]right[/], but it is what it is.
Smooches;) Um, yah, but uh....if my husband were cheating on me (which I would catch onto), I wouldn't lose my children over it. So what? That's the only answer you have? WOW. Never mind, you've got it all figured out.  | |
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shorttrini said: GetAwayFromMe said: I have kids, and I disagree with you.... There is NO WAY IN HELL that I would even consider jeopardizing my kids like that. It's called get a goddamned job, and don't stop looking until you find one. People who make excuses for not being able to take care of their business shouldn't consider having kids. Well guess what, there are some employers who are just not going to take a chance on somebody with a record, it's just that simple, if they do, they are not going to pay that you enough to make ends meet....that's just reality, especially in today's economy. FINALLY, someone has it! 
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shorttrini said: GetAwayFromMe said: What does that have to do with anything? Are you really gonna go there? Be very careful before you say something offensive. Well, if you have not lived in a certain place, then you have no idea what goes on there. All one would know, is what they read in the paper or see on T.V.. Again, I am not saying what biggie choose to do was right or wrong. What I am saying is that it was his choice and for somebody to judge another human being simply because of the choice they made is wrong. This country, as twisted as it can be sometimes, is good because of that reason. For anybody to judge another, without knowing how that person lives, is wrong. Lastly, the mere fact that you assumed that I was going to say something offense proves my point. You don't me, but, you just assumed that I was say something to offend you. [Edited 1/18/09 17:14pm] It's already been established that living in the hood doesn't mean you automatically have to be a scumbag.  You and Misha should continue this conversation between yourselves, because I just don't get the two of you. This is way off topic as well, so yeah. | |
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shorttrini said: GetAwayFromMe said: OK, well this is going to be very blunt. Don't have kids if you can't take care of them. If you have a record? That's your problem, don't have kids then. Get two jobs, you just don't get it, do you? I get it very well, one has nothing to do with the other. There are some out there that feel minimum wage and waiting around for that paycheck, is just not going to do. Especially, when that baby needs Pampers and milk. You needs a quick solution and to some, not me, dealing is the answer. Nothing is written in stone, you and I could both lose our jobs tomorrow. It all depends on your situation. You cannot sit there and tell me that what is right for you, is gonna be right for somebody else. In the same token, you cannot judge a person for doing what he feels as necessary at the time. 
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GetAwayFromMe said: MsMisha319 said: I meant smart as in, school smart. He wasn't an idiot, but he did stupid things when he was younger that got him into trouble.
And though you are entitled to your opinion, I don't agree with it. We were NEVER in danger. And sweetheart, people do things all the time, that others aren't aware of. Your significant other could be cheating on you and leading a double life, and you may not know it I'm not ashamed of anything, as I did nothing wrong. He did what he did. So what? In the end, he never got in trouble for it and he provided, as he should have. Again, not saying what he did was right[/], but it is what it is.
Smooches;) Um, yah, but uh....if my husband were cheating on me (which I would catch onto), I wouldn't lose my children over it. So what? That's the only answer you have? WOW. Never mind, you've got it all figured out. And [i]I would lose my kid because his dad was selling drugs?  I'm thinking not.
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| Wow, are some people really defending Biggie's drug dealing days? Seriously, there are women who prostitute themselves to feed their kids, so I guess they should be getting kudos for selling their asses to put food on the table too. Many of these women do it for one simple reason: it's quick and easy money...same reason Biggie sold drugs, plain and simple. Unfortunately, many of these women neglect to realize that they could be raped, severely beaten, or killed in their pursuit for quick and easy cash. No amount of money can pay off death when it's staring you in the face because you made a stupid decision. No amount of money is worth my life, but apparently, some people put prices on themselves when they take on these types of 'career endeavors'. Someone even stated a few posts back that Biggie once sold crack to a pregnant woman, which is fucked up regardless of whether he was feeding his kid with that money or not. Lord only knows how many of his 'clients' were probably children who became addicted to this mess because of him and others like him. I can understand the old expression of, 'You gotta do what you gotta do", but when I think of that expression, I think scooping up dog shit with my hands to make ends meet, not selling crack that helps in destroying my community and possible me and my family, but that's just me.
Sorry, but there are lots of jobs that don't require hurting yourself, others, and breaking the law...they just don't pay as much as quickly, but you will probably have a better chance at avoiding jail or being murdered in those slower, lower paying jobs. Money doesn't bring people back from the dead and if he had been killed in a drug deal gone wrong, what would have happened to his child then? She would not only be lacking financial support from her father, but lacking a father also (which is the case now, but not because of drugs)...not that he was very present in her life from many stories I heard anyway. I've noticed nowadays that people seem to be more concerned with financially supporting their kids than anything else and unfortunately, money doesn't mean a kid is going to grow up to be a good person. Being physically present in a child's life seems to be just as important as being able to buy them food, shelter, clothes, and Christmas presents. I know way too many girls who grew up in financially stable homes, yet thirst for any attention (usually negative) they can get from guys because their fathers weren't physically there enough in their lives. Money really doesn't seem to have the ability to overshadow absentee parenting from many cases I've seen. Just my  Prince Rogers Nelson
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sassybritches said: shorttrini said: I get it very well, one has nothing to do with the other. There are some out there that feel minimum wage and waiting around for that paycheck, is just not going to do. Especially, when that baby needs Pampers and milk. You needs a quick solution and to some, not me, dealing is the answer. Nothing is written in stone, you and I could both lose our jobs tomorrow. It all depends on your situation. You cannot sit there and tell me that what is right for you, is gonna be right for somebody else. In the same token, you cannot judge a person for doing what he feels as necessary at the time. please. WIC, local churches, and plenty of CBOs are out there for that very reason. crime is not necessary. ever.  I've been told by more than one mother that the moment a women gets pregnant, they can get Medicare (or is it Medicaid, I always get them confused because I can't get either one of them). I've been to Wal-mart too many times on food stamp days to ever believe that people can't feed their kids. There I am in line with no kids, working my ass off and struggling to feed myself and I look up and see this girl with three shopping carts over-flowing with food and several little kids running around it. That isn't even what bothers me really. What bothers me is that the kids will be looking like they haven't been bathed in 3 days, while mommy is rockin' a Coach handbag, some Fendi shades, and a nice outfit with her nails and hair done. Note to these types of parents: babies are not paychecks. Either get a real job and stop living off of taxpayers dollars or stop having kids, because honestly, I'd rather pay for the kids to be wards of the state than pay some heiffer to keep poppin out babies so she can get some new designer stuff with my hard-earned tax dollars. Shit just makes me ill.  Prince Rogers Nelson
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estelle81 said: Wow, are some people really defending Biggie's drug dealing days? Seriously, there are women who prostitute themselves to feed their kids, so I guess they should be getting kudos for selling their asses to put food on the table too. Many of these women do it for one simple reason: it's quick and easy money...same reason Biggie sold drugs, plain and simple. Unfortunately, many of these women neglect to realize that they could be raped, severely beaten, or killed in their pursuit for quick and easy cash. No amount of money can pay off death when it's staring you in the face because you made a stupid decision. No amount of money is worth my life, but apparently, some people put prices on themselves when they take on these types of 'career endeavors'. Someone even stated a few posts back that Biggie once sold crack to a pregnant woman, which is fucked up regardless of whether he was feeding his kid with that money or not. Lord only knows how many of his 'clients' were probably children who became addicted to this mess because of him and others like him. I can understand the old expression of, 'You gotta do what you gotta do", but when I think of that expression, I think scooping up dog shit with my hands to make ends meet, not selling crack that helps in destroying my community and possible me and my family, but that's just me.
Sorry, but there are lots of jobs that don't require hurting yourself, others, and breaking the law...they just don't pay as much as quickly, but you will probably have a better chance at avoiding jail or being murdered in those slower, lower paying jobs. Money doesn't bring people back from the dead and if he had been killed in a drug deal gone wrong, what would have happened to his child then? She would not only be lacking financial support from her father, but lacking a father also (which is the case now, but not because of drugs)...not that he was very present in her life from many stories I heard anyway. I've noticed nowadays that people seem to be more concerned with financially supporting their kids than anything else and unfortunately, money doesn't mean a kid is going to grow up to be a good person. Being physically present in a child's life seems to be just as important as being able to buy them food, shelter, clothes, and Christmas presents. I know way too many girls who grew up in financially stable homes, yet thirst for any attention (usually negative) they can get from guys because their fathers weren't physically there enough in their lives. Money really doesn't seem to have the ability to overshadow absentee parenting from many cases I've seen. Just my You raised a lot of great and valid points here. Though this thread has gotten completely off topic....and I had a hand in that  ...I don't think anyone would disagree that physically being in a child's life is way my important than just financially being there.
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MsMisha319 said: GetAwayFromMe said: If you're presumably selling drugs to take care of your family, then the children come into the picture somewhere, don't they? Well, if you are selling drugs to take care of your children, then yes, they come into the picture. You're doing it to support them. However, you don't have to have your children around it. I was in a relationship for 2 years and didn't know that my ex was selling drugs. He never brought it in our home...or atleast, I NEVER saw it. No one ever came to our home to buy it and we lived in the city. I never even suspected such a thing. I was SHOCKED to say the least, when I found out. And though he was an extremely smart guy, like many black men, he did some things in his past. Therefore, no employer was eager to hire him, so he did what he had to do. He provided everything that was needed for our son and, like I said, I never knew he had this side thing going on. And though I was working and more than able to provide my son, I appreciated every bit he did to help. Regardless. I know he never put our son in any danger. Though he may have put himself in danger, he did it for a reason. Smooches;) This is exactly why you are sympathetic to this situation. You can't see past your experience. "like many black men, he did some things in his past." Really??? As a black man, I am offended. I have never done things in my past to hinder me getting a job and neither do any of the many black men I know. This shows your mentality. The fact that you were willing to be with such a man shows where your head was at. Were you really shocked? Did you really not suspect? Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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Timmy84 said: I find it amusing y'all continue to argue and you missed what I said.
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LiquidGold said: MsMisha319 said: Well, if you are selling drugs to take care of your children, then yes, they come into the picture. You're doing it to support them. However, you don't have to have your children around it. I was in a relationship for 2 years and didn't know that my ex was selling drugs. He never brought it in our home...or atleast, I NEVER saw it. No one ever came to our home to buy it and we lived in the city. I never even suspected such a thing. I was SHOCKED to say the least, when I found out. And though he was an extremely smart guy, like many black men, he did some things in his past. Therefore, no employer was eager to hire him, so he did what he had to do. He provided everything that was needed for our son and, like I said, I never knew he had this side thing going on. And though I was working and more than able to provide my son, I appreciated every bit he did to help. Regardless. I know he never put our son in any danger. Though he may have put himself in danger, he did it for a reason. Smooches;) This is exactly why you are sympathetic to this situation. You can't see past your experience. "like many black men, he did some things in his past." Really??? As a black man, I am offended. I have never done things in my past to hinder me getting a job and neither do any of the many black men I know. This shows your mentality. The fact that you were willing to be with such a man shows where your head was at. Were you really shocked? Did you really not suspect?  Again, out of pocket people. Yes, I was shocked. Being that he was an educated man with a college degree and a business, yes, I was indeed shocked. And at no point did I say ALL BLACK MEN, I said many. Being that there are more black men in prison than in college, I would say you and your friends are few and far between. Who the hell are you to try and check my mentality? I was willing to be with such a man? Can you not read? I said that I was unaware of his side gig. I was willing to be with an educated man who owned a company. I was not willing to be with a drug dealer, hence, we are no longer together. AGAIN, FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, DRUG DEALING IS NOT RIGHT AND WE ALL KNOW THIS. THIS IS WHY I LEFT. HOWEVER, HE TOOK CARE OF HIS RESPONSIBILITIES AND I DON'T FAULT HIM FOR IT. IT'S BETTER THAN ME CALLING HIM A DEADBEAT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP.
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estelle81 said: sassybritches said: please. WIC, local churches, and plenty of CBOs are out there for that very reason. crime is not necessary. ever. I've been told by more than one mother that the moment a women gets pregnant, they can get Medicare (or is it Medicaid, I always get them confused because I can't get either one of them). I've been to Wal-mart too many times on food stamp days to ever believe that people can't feed their kids. There I am in line with no kids, working my ass off and struggling to feed myself and I look up and see this girl with three shopping carts over-flowing with food and several little kids running around it. That isn't even what bothers me really. What bothers me is that the kids will be looking like they haven't been bathed in 3 days, while mommy is rockin' a Coach handbag, some Fendi shades, and a nice outfit with her nails and hair done. Note to these types of parents: babies are not paychecks. Either get a real job and stop living off of taxpayers dollars or stop having kids, because honestly, I'd rather pay for the kids to be wards of the state than pay some heiffer to keep poppin out babies so she can get some new designer stuff with my hard-earned tax dollars. Shit just makes me ill. It's Medicaid
And I have to admit, this is something that annoys me as well. I have gone without plenty, to ensure that my son has what he needs. It's unfortunate that many parents, particularly young mothers, don't put their children first. There is no way I could justify buying that cute Prada purse when my son doesn't have winter boots or gloves And it's equally unfortunate that we (tax-payers) are the ones financing the neglect 
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LiquidGold said: Karen71 said: I made a friggin' COMMENT on a message board, cause that's what they're for! Unless you're Voletta Wallace, I don't understand why you give a personal damn about my observation. You seem to be the stereotypical angry black woman who simply likes to argue every damn thing that's said--cause that's all you've done the entire thread. Do you have an original thought of your own? Or do you simply wait to challenge what everybody else has to say? Speaking of, what say you about the film? Cause I could've sworn that's what the thread's about. Having trouble keeping up? Maybe she grew up around things like that and is just justifying it because that's all she knows Clearly, that's the case. But to suggest that there's no other way of living...At some point, I don't care where or how you grew up, you've gotta understand that there's more to life than what you can see from your stoop. I mean, don't you see how other people live on TV or something??? Something's wrong here. | |
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Karen71 said: LiquidGold said: Maybe she grew up around things like that and is just justifying it because that's all she knows Clearly, that's the case. But to suggest that there's no other way of living...At some point, I don't care where or how you grew up, you've gotta understand that there's more to life than what you can see from your stoop. I mean, don't you see how other people live on TV or something??? Something's wrong here. Ok, you are very annoying 
Maybe you should read the pages of comments that've been left since you last visited. Not only did I respond to your comment and his, but we have moved on to other off topic comments. Smooches;) | |
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MsMisha319 said: Karen71 said: Clearly, that's the case. But to suggest that there's no other way of living...At some point, I don't care where or how you grew up, you've gotta understand that there's more to life than what you can see from your stoop. I mean, don't you see how other people live on TV or something??? Something's wrong here. Ok, you are very annoying
Maybe you should read the pages of comments that've been left since you last visited. Not only did I respond to your comment and his, but we have moved on to other off topic comments. Smooches;) I'll admit that I just finished SKIMMING all of the comments that were left since I was here. But that's all it took for me to realize something is very off with your mental. First, your man is living with you and dealing drugs and you don't realize a. That DID put you and your child in danger and b. Your child could/would have indeed been removed from your home because of it. The fact that a man could be living with you, dealing drugs and you didn't even know it also points to how CLUELESS you are. If your logic in real life plays out anything like it does on this board, I feel for you and ESPECIALLY your child. Finally, this is MY thread. I determine which topic I wish to respond to. If you don't like it, go start your own thread entitled, "Drug Dealers and the Women Who Love and Have Babies By Them". | |
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MsMisha319 said: LiquidGold said: This is exactly why you are sympathetic to this situation. You can't see past your experience. "like many black men, he did some things in his past." Really??? As a black man, I am offended. I have never done things in my past to hinder me getting a job and neither do any of the many black men I know. This shows your mentality. The fact that you were willing to be with such a man shows where your head was at. Were you really shocked? Did you really not suspect? Again, out of pocket people. Yes, I was shocked. Being that he was an educated man with a college degree and a business, yes, I was indeed shocked. And at no point did I say ALL BLACK MEN, I said many. Being that there are more black men in prison than in college, I would say you and your friends are few and far between. Who the hell are you to try and check my mentality? I was willing to be with such a man? Can you not read? I said that I was unaware of his side gig. I was willing to be with an educated man who owned a company. I was not willing to be with a drug dealer, hence, we are no longer together. AGAIN, FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, DRUG DEALING IS NOT RIGHT AND WE ALL KNOW THIS. THIS IS WHY I LEFT. HOWEVER, HE TOOK CARE OF HIS RESPONSIBILITIES AND I DON'T FAULT HIM FOR IT. IT'S BETTER THAN ME CALLING HIM A DEADBEAT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP.
Get a clue.
Smooches;) You stated earlier that he couldn't get a job because of his prior record, so where did you assume he was getting his money from? Sorry, but a deadbeat is better than a drug dealer Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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Karen71 said: MsMisha319 said: Ok, you are very annoying
Maybe you should read the pages of comments that've been left since you last visited. Not only did I respond to your comment and his, but we have moved on to other off topic comments. Smooches;) I'll admit that I just finished SKIMMING all of the comments that were left since I was here. But that's all it took for me to realize something is very off with your mental. First, your man is living with you and dealing drugs and you don't realize a. That DID put you and your child in danger and b. Your child could/would have indeed been removed from your home because of it. The fact that a man could be living with you, dealing drugs and you didn't even know it also points to how CLUELESS you are. If your logic in real life plays out anything like it does on this board, I feel for you and ESPECIALLY your child. Finally, this is MY thread. I determine which topic I wish to respond to. If you don't like it, go start your own thread entitled, "Drug Dealers and the Women Who Love and Have Babies By Them". Firstly, A.) He was not dealing drugs in our home or anywhere around it B.) I was not involved, therefore my child would not be taken from ME C.) My child is very well taken care of, so there is no need for YOU to feel anything for him. Smooches;) | |
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