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Reply #30 posted 01/17/09 10:34am

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What reason is there to marry ANYBODY nine days after you meet them??? lol hmmm



What does the length of time have to do with anything? My great grandparents knew each other for 2 weeks before they were married and they were together for 35 years. They would probably still be married if one had not died. Biggie and Faith obviously loved each other. Maybe not enough for all the extra stuff to stop, but enough.

Smooches;)

When you're dealing with a clearly dysfunctional womanizer, drug dealer, drug user, and abuser, a girl MIGHT wanna take her time before jumping the broom. But, uh, okay, maybe that's just me. thumbs up!
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Reply #31 posted 01/17/09 10:36am

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The funniest thing about BIGGIE is that he grew up at the Clinton Hill suburbs but outside he walk towards the rougher Bedford-Stuyvesant area and for some begotten reason decided thug life was better than trying to get his education. He dropped out at 17 after he got deep into the drug game.
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Reply #32 posted 01/17/09 10:40am

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Wow @ Voletta...

Notorious BIG's Mother Believes Rapper Cheated On Lil' Kim

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by Jason Gregory
Saturday, January 17, 2009

Voletta Wallace, the mother of the late Notorious BIG, has said she believes her son cheated on his girlfriend, Lil’ Kim.

Wallace, who co-produced the recent bio-pic Notorious, also said she wanted to meet with Lil’ Kim to discuss who ill-felling towards the film.

"I felt bad for Kim. Bad because Christopher (Wallace, Notorious BIG) did not treat her well," Wallace told a US radio station.

"Christopher didn't love her the way she deserved to be loved. I honestly felt Christopher cheated on her, Christopher lied to her."

Wallace also acknowledged that Lil’ Kim was understandably hurt when the rapper married Faith Evans in 1994 following a short whirlwind romance.

"If you're gonna get married and you're dating somebody and seeing somebody, at least sit down and talk to this person," she said.

"Don't just go get married and walk away from somebody that really cared for you. I really felt bad for her."

As previously reported on Gigwise, Lil’ Kim has voiced her anger at Notorious, saying she doesn’t like the way she is portrayed in the film.

Wallace said she would like to meet with Lil’ Kim because she wanted to "believe" that she loved her son.

Notorious charts the rapper’s rise to international stardom, which came to a tragic end in a drive-by shooting in Los Angeles in 1997.
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Reply #33 posted 01/17/09 10:43am

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MsMisha319 said:

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wrong is wrong regardless of motive. many parents are poor, single parents and they don't sell drugs. they work their asses off and get the bills paid. sorry, but i'm not gonna feel ya on the whole "i'm a parent and i'd do anything to feed them" because "anything" should include being a good role model and teaching them healthy values. besides, once he made it big he all but forgot about that kid anyway. he was a thug. period.



Whoa! How and at what point did he forget about of his kid? hmm


Smooches;)


That's what I was just going to asked? Also, you can teach your kids all of the "healthy values" that you want. It is still up to them to make up their own minds. My brother's and I came up with a parents that are from the West Indies, just like biggies. One of my brother's is a lawyer while the other has gotten into trouble with the law. Is that my parent's fault? No. You make choices in this life that you have to deal with. However, by no means should one judge another simply because of the choices they made or the paths they choose. Calling somebody a thug is without knowing why they made the choices that they made is not called for.
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Reply #34 posted 01/17/09 10:46am

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Timmy84 said:

Wow @ Voletta...

Notorious BIG's Mother Believes Rapper Cheated On Lil' Kim

She wants meeting...


by Jason Gregory
Saturday, January 17, 2009

Voletta Wallace, the mother of the late Notorious BIG, has said she believes her son cheated on his girlfriend, Lil’ Kim.

Wallace, who co-produced the recent bio-pic Notorious, also said she wanted to meet with Lil’ Kim to discuss who ill-felling towards the film.

"I felt bad for Kim. Bad because Christopher (Wallace, Notorious BIG) did not treat her well," Wallace told a US radio station.

"Christopher didn't love her the way she deserved to be loved. I honestly felt Christopher cheated on her, Christopher lied to her."

Wallace also acknowledged that Lil’ Kim was understandably hurt when the rapper married Faith Evans in 1994 following a short whirlwind romance.

"If you're gonna get married and you're dating somebody and seeing somebody, at least sit down and talk to this person," she said.

"Don't just go get married and walk away from somebody that really cared for you. I really felt bad for her."

As previously reported on Gigwise, Lil’ Kim has voiced her anger at Notorious, saying she doesn’t like the way she is portrayed in the film.

Wallace said she would like to meet with Lil’ Kim because she wanted to "believe" that she loved her son.

Notorious charts the rapper’s rise to international stardom, which came to a tragic end in a drive-by shooting in Los Angeles in 1997.

nod A friend told me about this last week.
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Reply #35 posted 01/17/09 10:48am

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SCNDLS said:

MsMisha319 said:




What does the length of time have to do with anything? My great grandparents knew each other for 2 weeks before they were married and they were together for 35 years. They would probably still be married if one had not died. Biggie and Faith obviously loved each other. Maybe not enough for all the extra stuff to stop, but enough.

Smooches;)

When you're dealing with a clearly dysfunctional womanizer, drug dealer, drug user, and abuser, a girl MIGHT wanna take her time before jumping the broom. But, uh, okay, maybe that's just me. thumbs up!
[Edited 1/17/09 10:36am]



You can't help who you love, you just love them. We don't know what Faith in Biggie, but she saw something passed the persona that you just described. It think that's what's most important.
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Reply #36 posted 01/17/09 10:48am

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SCNDLS said:

MsMisha319 said:




What does the length of time have to do with anything? My great grandparents knew each other for 2 weeks before they were married and they were together for 35 years. They would probably still be married if one had not died. Biggie and Faith obviously loved each other. Maybe not enough for all the extra stuff to stop, but enough.

Smooches;)

When you're dealing with a clearly dysfunctional womanizer, drug dealer, drug user, and abuser, a girl MIGHT wanna take her time before jumping the broom. But, uh, okay, maybe that's just me. thumbs up!
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Well, it wasn't clear to her yet. She hadn't known him long enough falloff


Smooches;)
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Reply #37 posted 01/17/09 10:49am

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It was decent. I would recommend waiting for video or cable. It's not worth 10+ bucks.The end was sad, even though we all know what happens at the end. They dramatized the ending. I'm not sure if he was really calling all those people before he died or not, but whatever. After reading that lil Kim thread and then seeing the movie, I have to agree with lil Kim. I don't know them, but I always thought Big loved Kim and they didn't make it seem that way in the movie, not until the very end. They made is a possibility



I read someplace recently that Kim claimed Big had called her the night before he died saying those two would talk about moving things forward in the relationship department once he moved back to NY. But that part in the movie? wink Like he was at that hot party, getting ready to leave, and while he waited for his car to pull up, pulled out his cell phone to call and tell Kim some mess like that. RANDOM as hell.

He may have had those conversations about bringing his children out while he was in Cally, but all that calling from a party? wink

I do think the movie captured the essence of Big and Kim's dysfunctional relationship. From all accounts, he treated her pretty badly. Too bad they didn't show him making her have an abortion or putting that gun to her head. lol Makes me wonder if Kim exaggerated some stuff after his death to make it seem as though their relationship was more than it was. I mean, was she REALLY ever pregnant by Big? She struck me as such a fool in love she would've had his baby because she worshipped him to the point of wanting to always have a piece of him. And I think she claimed she found out and aborted after he was killed. wink She would've had that child to "always rep Biggie" and have something to remember him by.

And, yes, you can wait for netflix to have this one. I went to the matinee--with a free movie ticket. (Those reward programs they have pay off.) I don't think I would've paid a full $9-10 on it.

I had a free movie ticket too! falloff
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Reply #38 posted 01/17/09 10:49am

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MsMisha319 said:

SCNDLS said:


When you're dealing with a clearly dysfunctional womanizer, drug dealer, drug user, and abuser, a girl MIGHT wanna take her time before jumping the broom. But, uh, okay, maybe that's just me. thumbs up!
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Well, it wasn't clear to her yet. She hadn't known him long enough falloff


Smooches;)

AND therein lies the problem! lol
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Reply #39 posted 01/17/09 10:50am

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You know what was BIG's full real name?

Christopher George Latore Wallace. He was named after his father, a Jamaican-based welder named George Latore.
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Reply #40 posted 01/17/09 10:51am

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It seems that a lot of people were looking for lil kim's role in this movie to be bigger than it was. This was not a movie about her and I'm sure she was a small part of his life. I heard an interview the other day that Ms Wallace gave in which she states that this movie would not focus primarily on Big and Kim's relationship, for the simple fact that so much of what kim has said about their relationship was said AFTER he died...leading one to believe that she exaggerated a lot.

I personally didn't want her to have a bigger role than what she had. She was the side bitch. Faith was his wife and she deserved to have a bigger role than Kim wink He wifed her for a reason.


Smooches;)

He "wifed" her after 3 weeks. At least Kim got with him before he became famous
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Reply #41 posted 01/17/09 10:51am

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shorttrini said:

SCNDLS said:


When you're dealing with a clearly dysfunctional womanizer, drug dealer, drug user, and abuser, a girl MIGHT wanna take her time before jumping the broom. But, uh, okay, maybe that's just me. thumbs up!
[Edited 1/17/09 10:36am]



You can't help who you love, you just love them. We don't know what Faith in Biggie, but she saw something passed the persona that you just described. It think that's what's most important.

"You just love them." After 9 days??? Well, she sure was looking past a LOT if she could forvige that face and gut. confused neutral Sorry, but I'ma keep it real. Maybe she saw GREEN? hmmm
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Reply #42 posted 01/17/09 10:52am

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Timmy84 said:

You know what was BIG's full real name?

Christopher George Latore Wallace. He was named after his father, a Jamaican-based welder named George Latore.

So why do people call moms MRS Wallace??? hmmm
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Reply #43 posted 01/17/09 10:54am

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LiquidGold said:

MsMisha319 said:

It seems that a lot of people were looking for lil kim's role in this movie to be bigger than it was. This was not a movie about her and I'm sure she was a small part of his life. I heard an interview the other day that Ms Wallace gave in which she states that this movie would not focus primarily on Big and Kim's relationship, for the simple fact that so much of what kim has said about their relationship was said AFTER he died...leading one to believe that she exaggerated a lot.

I personally didn't want her to have a bigger role than what she had. She was the side bitch. Faith was his wife and she deserved to have a bigger role than Kim wink He wifed her for a reason.


Smooches;)

He "wifed" her after 3 weeks. At least Kim got with him before be became famous

The legend and Wikipedia says they married after NINE days. disbelief
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Reply #44 posted 01/17/09 10:55am

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SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:

You know what was BIG's full real name?

Christopher George Latore Wallace. He was named after his father, a Jamaican-based welder named George Latore.

So why do people call moms MRS Wallace??? hmmm



Sometimes in the west indian culture, the son will take on the mother's name if the parents are not together.
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Reply #45 posted 01/17/09 10:56am

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shorttrini said:

SCNDLS said:


So why do people call moms MRS Wallace??? hmmm



Sometimes in the west indian culture, the son will take on the mother's name is the parents are not together.

I've always questioned if she was ever legally married though. I just always got the impression that she was rewriting some of her own image too. shrug
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Reply #46 posted 01/17/09 11:00am

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LiquidGold said:

MsMisha319 said:

It seems that a lot of people were looking for lil kim's role in this movie to be bigger than it was. This was not a movie about her and I'm sure she was a small part of his life. I heard an interview the other day that Ms Wallace gave in which she states that this movie would not focus primarily on Big and Kim's relationship, for the simple fact that so much of what kim has said about their relationship was said AFTER he died...leading one to believe that she exaggerated a lot.

I personally didn't want her to have a bigger role than what she had. She was the side bitch. Faith was his wife and she deserved to have a bigger role than Kim wink He wifed her for a reason.


Smooches;)

He "wifed" her after 3 weeks. At least Kim got with him before be became famous



And? confused I don't think there is a doubt that Kim loved Biggie. I just don't think it was reciprocated. Atleast, not in the way she wanted. Otherwise, she wouldn't have had to have the abortion that she supposedly had and he would'nt have married someone within weeks of meeting her. It didn't seem to me that he loved Kim that way. Just my opinion though. I don't know any of them and in the end, we are all on the outside of this and speculating.

Smooches;)
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Reply #47 posted 01/17/09 11:00am

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shorttrini said:

SCNDLS said:


So why do people call moms MRS Wallace??? hmmm



Sometimes in the west indian culture, the son will take on the mother's name is the parents are not together.

Yeah, it's suppose to be like that in the states too, but I think the question was why do some call her Mrs as opposed to Ms since Wallace is her maiden name
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Reply #48 posted 01/17/09 11:02am

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LiquidGold said:

shorttrini said:




Sometimes in the west indian culture, the son will take on the mother's name is the parents are not together.

Yeah, it's suppose to be like that in the states too, but I think the question was why do some call her Mrs as opposed to Ms since Wallace is her maiden name

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Reply #49 posted 01/17/09 11:02am

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MsMisha319 said:

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wrong is wrong regardless of motive. many parents are poor, single parents and they don't sell drugs. they work their asses off and get the bills paid. sorry, but i'm not gonna feel ya on the whole "i'm a parent and i'd do anything to feed them" because "anything" should include being a good role model and teaching them healthy values. besides, once he made it big he all but forgot about that kid anyway. he was a thug. period.



Whoa! How and at what point did he forget about of his kid? hmm


Smooches;)

The movie shows that. He neglected his daughter. He sent her money, but never saw her
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Reply #50 posted 01/17/09 11:05am

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shorttrini said:

SCNDLS said:


When you're dealing with a clearly dysfunctional womanizer, drug dealer, drug user, and abuser, a girl MIGHT wanna take her time before jumping the broom. But, uh, okay, maybe that's just me. thumbs up!
[Edited 1/17/09 10:36am]



You can't help who you love, you just love them. We don't know what Faith in Biggie, but she saw something passed the persona that you just described. It think that's what's most important.

Yeah, and the shit didn't work out did it lol I think it's more important to take marriage seriously and try to actually know who you are marrying so it can at least have a chance. That shit never had a chance
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Reply #51 posted 01/17/09 11:08am

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SCNDLS said:

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He "wifed" her after 3 weeks. At least Kim got with him before be became famous

The legend and Wikipedia says they married after NINE days. disbelief

falloff The movie stated 3 weeks. Wow, I can't even wrap my brain around that. No wonder gay people are pissed lol
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Reply #52 posted 01/17/09 11:09am

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LiquidGold said:

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The legend and Wikipedia says they married after NINE days. disbelief

falloff The movie stated 3 weeks. Wow, I can't even wrap my brain around that. No wonder gay people are pissed lol

See, some more revisionist moves. confused
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Reply #53 posted 01/17/09 11:16am

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shorttrini said:

sassybritches said:


he was a drug dealer who abused women and promoted violence. does it need more elaboration than that?


Yes, he sold drugs, but the money that came from it, was used to feed his little girl. I don't if you have have children, but when it comes to mine, I would do anything to make sure that she has what she needs. Biggie rapped about what was going on his his neigborhood and the surrounding streets, and that's all he knew. How is that promoting violence? If one rap song can drive a person into doing something violent, then the problem is with that person, not the song.


You insult black men when you defend fools in this way. Most of us grew up on the streets. I have never sold a drug in my life. There are always answers if you're not looking for the quick and easy way out. Poisoning our people is counter-productive no matter how you look at it and either you are part of th problem or part of the solution. Biggie was part of the problem. His music was bullshit.
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Reply #54 posted 01/17/09 11:19am

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Yes, he sold drugs, but the money that came from it, was used to feed his little girl. I don't if you have have children, but when it comes to mine, I would do anything to make sure that she has what she needs. Biggie rapped about what was going on his his neigborhood and the surrounding streets, and that's all he knew. How is that promoting violence? If one rap song can drive a person into doing something violent, then the problem is with that person, not the song.


You insult black men when you defend fools in this way. Most of us grew up on the streets. I have never sold a drug in my life. There are always answers if you're not looking for the quick and easy way out. Poisoning our people is counter-productive no matter how you look at it and either you are part of th problem or part of the solution. Biggie was part of the problem. His music was bullshit.

Not to mention he started dealing drugs at the ripe old age of TWELVE while he was still in private school and his mother was busy working TWO jobs to support him. disbelief I don't think he had a child to support at that time, but I could be wrong, not that that's an excuse anyway. confused
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Reply #55 posted 01/17/09 11:22am

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SCNDLS said:

Timmy84 said:

You know what was BIG's full real name?

Christopher George Latore Wallace. He was named after his father, a Jamaican-based welder named George Latore.

So why do people call moms MRS Wallace??? hmmm


Beats me. shrug
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Reply #56 posted 01/17/09 11:25am

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SCNDLS said:

BlaqueKnight said:



You insult black men when you defend fools in this way. Most of us grew up on the streets. I have never sold a drug in my life. There are always answers if you're not looking for the quick and easy way out. Poisoning our people is counter-productive no matter how you look at it and either you are part of th problem or part of the solution. Biggie was part of the problem. His music was bullshit.

Not to mention he started dealing drugs at the ripe old age of TWELVE while he was still in private school and his mother was busy working TWO jobs to support him. disbelief I don't think he had a child to support at that time, but I could be wrong, not that that's an excuse anyway. confused

The only reason he sold drugs was to get new sneakers lol
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Reply #57 posted 01/17/09 11:32am

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SCNDLS said:


Not to mention he started dealing drugs at the ripe old age of TWELVE while he was still in private school and his mother was busy working TWO jobs to support him. disbelief I don't think he had a child to support at that time, but I could be wrong, not that that's an excuse anyway. confused

The only reason he sold drugs was to get new sneakers lol

Was that in the movie??? Cuz I wanna say that I remember hearing that in an interview or Behind the Music. disbelief
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SCNDLS said:

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The only reason he sold drugs was to get new sneakers lol

Was that in the movie??? Cuz I wanna say that I remember hearing that in an interview or Behind the Music. disbelief
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Yes. He saw some kids with sneakers and chains and went to his drug dealing friend and started dealing. Then, it cuts to him as a teenager, going to the roof and changing clothes before going to school: He pulls out fresh white sneakers and a chain. He wasn't trying to support anybody then. He had no intention on stopping and even sold crack to a pregnant woman. He continued when he found out he was going to be a father, but that wasn't why he started. He could have gotten a real job
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Reply #59 posted 01/17/09 11:47am

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SCNDLS said:


Was that in the movie??? Cuz I wanna say that I remember hearing that in an interview or Behind the Music. disbelief
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Yes. He saw some kids with sneakers and chains and went to his drug dealing friend and started dealing. Then, it cuts to him as a teenager, going to the roof and changing clothes before going to school: He pulls out fresh white sneakers and a chain. He wasn't trying to support anybody then. He had no intention on stopping and even sold crack to a pregnant woman. He continued when he found out he was going to be a father, but that wasn't why he started. He could have gotten a real job

nod Even Pussy, I mean Puffy, said that he sold drugs AFTER getting his record deal. According to him, so consider the source, he used to beg Biggie NOT to sell drugs because it might hurt his musical career. As if not dealing would have been a good idea JUST because. confused
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