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Reply #30 posted 01/16/09 6:45pm

Karen71

And to answer the question, I simply cannot question the motives of any mother who's lost her child.

I think they're likely more motivated by a desire to keep their children's legacies alive. They're likely getting some sense of peace, feeling as if their children are still parts of their lives. They may also hope that keeping their memories fresh will lead to a break in their murder cases. Neither of these women have had the closure of having their children's murders solved.

And I'd be fighting Suge for my rightful inheritance/son's stuff too. The man is shadier than a palm tree.
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Reply #31 posted 01/16/09 7:00pm

Cinnie

Karen71 said:

I think they're likely more motivated by a desire to keep their children's legacies alive. They're likely getting some sense of peace, feeling as if their children are still parts of their lives. They may also hope that keeping their memories fresh will lead to a break in their murder cases. Neither of these women have had the closure of having their children's murders solved.


Absolutely.
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Reply #32 posted 01/16/09 7:21pm

Graycap23

If not them.....who should?
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Reply #33 posted 01/16/09 8:15pm

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disbelief He was divorced from Faith when he died, if I'm not mistaken. So his mother got the bulk of his estate until the kids come of age. That's why she's the face that you see on anything Biggie related.

Actually, they were still legally married, but Faith was good about sharing her part of the inheritance with his mother knowing that 1. He would've wanted his mother taken care of and 2. That marriage was done anyway. (I'm impressed with her for doing the right thing. She could've easily left mama living in her apartment in Brooklyn as she wasn't obligated to do one thing for her.)

Even if they were legally divorced, parents don't trump children when it comes to an inheritance.

I just read this week somewhere that they were divorced. shrug However, if the kids are minors then whomever is listed as the executor manages the estate until they become of age. I'm totally assuming that's Mrs. Wallace as it appears that she's the one making all the decisions. Faith doesn't seem to be making decisions about how Big's music is used, which would also make sense if they were divorced. But that may not be the case.

Regardless, I don't think it's right to release material that an artist themselves thought was sub-standard for the sake of making a dollar. It doesn't preserve their legacy, it dilutes it IMO.
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Reply #34 posted 01/16/09 8:22pm

Graycap23

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Regardless, I don't think it's right to release material that an artist themselves thought was sub-standard for the sake of making a dollar. It doesn't preserve their legacy, it dilutes it IMO.


The legacy of a rapper.....I'm going 2 have ponder that one.

hmmm
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Reply #35 posted 01/16/09 8:23pm

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Graycap23 said:

SCNDLS said:



Regardless, I don't think it's right to release material that an artist themselves thought was sub-standard for the sake of making a dollar. It doesn't preserve their legacy, it dilutes it IMO.


The legacy of a rapper.....I'm going 2 have ponder that one.

hmmm

Shet it, hip hop hater. hammer
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Reply #36 posted 01/16/09 8:47pm

Karen71

SCNDLS said:

Karen71 said:


Actually, they were still legally married, but Faith was good about sharing her part of the inheritance with his mother knowing that 1. He would've wanted his mother taken care of and 2. That marriage was done anyway. (I'm impressed with her for doing the right thing. She could've easily left mama living in her apartment in Brooklyn as she wasn't obligated to do one thing for her.)

Even if they were legally divorced, parents don't trump children when it comes to an inheritance.

I just read this week somewhere that they were divorced. shrug However, if the kids are minors then whomever is listed as the executor manages the estate until they become of age. I'm totally assuming that's Mrs. Wallace as it appears that she's the one making all the decisions. Faith doesn't seem to be making decisions about how Big's music is used, which would also make sense if they were divorced. But that may not be the case.

Regardless, I don't think it's right to release material that an artist themselves thought was sub-standard for the sake of making a dollar. It doesn't preserve their legacy, it dilutes it IMO.

Nah, they were still LEGALLY married. I remember an interview where Biggie's mama was angry, saying that it was all Puffy's fault for not having the paperwork/business side of the divorce taken care of in a timely manner. Of course, this was shortly after Big's death, so she was bitter and angry at everybody. I'm sure if you google, you'll find the interview and/or confirmation they were still LEGALLY married at the time of his death. In her book, Faith even talks about how it was HER responsibility to take care of all his business--inc. but not limited to repo'ing the vehicle from C Baltimore's driveway. lol

Children are ALWAYS first in line when there's no spouse. The executioner is whomever will be responsible for making sure the children get their money. It could be the deceased mama, best friend, cousin, auntie, a bank, or stranger appointed by the court. Mama's are entitled to NATHAN after their children marry and/or have children.

Faith may be making those business decisions, or she could have signed that part over to Big's mom. (I believe the latter happened.)

BTW: In a very, very recent interview (like a week or 2 old), Mom's stated Faith shared her 50% cut with her (so Mom gets 25%) and each of his kids gets 25. Which makes sense to me. That's how I always remembered the law: 50 for spouse with other 50 divided among children not born of the marriage.
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Reply #37 posted 01/16/09 9:09pm

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Karen71 said:

SCNDLS said:


I just read this week somewhere that they were divorced. shrug However, if the kids are minors then whomever is listed as the executor manages the estate until they become of age. I'm totally assuming that's Mrs. Wallace as it appears that she's the one making all the decisions. Faith doesn't seem to be making decisions about how Big's music is used, which would also make sense if they were divorced. But that may not be the case.

Regardless, I don't think it's right to release material that an artist themselves thought was sub-standard for the sake of making a dollar. It doesn't preserve their legacy, it dilutes it IMO.

Nah, they were still LEGALLY married. I remember an interview where Biggie's mama was angry, saying that it was all Puffy's fault for not having the paperwork/business side of the divorce taken care of in a timely manner. Of course, this was shortly after Big's death, so she was bitter and angry at everybody. I'm sure if you google, you'll find the interview and/or confirmation they were still LEGALLY married at the time of his death. In her book, Faith even talks about how it was HER responsibility to take care of all his business--inc. but not limited to repo'ing the vehicle from C Baltimore's driveway. lol

Children are ALWAYS first in line when there's no spouse. The executioner is whomever will be responsible for making sure the children get their money. It could be the deceased mama, best friend, cousin, auntie, a bank, or stranger appointed by the court. Mama's are entitled to NATHAN after their children marry and/or have children.

Faith may be making those business decisions, or she could have signed that part over to Big's mom. (I believe the latter happened.)

BTW: In a very, very recent interview (like a week or 2 old), Mom's stated Faith shared her 50% cut with her (so Mom gets 25%) and each of his kids gets 25. Which makes sense to me. That's how I always remembered the law: 50 for spouse with other 50 divided among children not born of the marriage.

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Reply #38 posted 01/16/09 9:25pm

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Why not? They lived scandalous lives and destroyed their mothers hearts, why not get paid for the mess?
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Reply #39 posted 01/17/09 7:34am

Karen71

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Why not? They lived scandalous lives and destroyed their mothers hearts, why not get paid for the mess?




Well damn.

Nothing left to say on the matter.

Thread closed. lol
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Reply #40 posted 01/17/09 7:43am

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Hell yeah. Didn't one of them used to be a crackhead? lol

Nah lol

One of them was part of the Black Panthers and the other was a single mother working at an employment agency


2pac's mother is a former member of The Original Black Panthers. And in later years, she did have a drug problem but successfully got clean.
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Reply #41 posted 01/17/09 7:47am

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Cinnie said:

I think Biggie's money goes to Faith Evans and their children?

2pac? Sheeit, he's living in Barbados.


Actually, Biggie's 2 kids are getting pay off of his publishing rights. But Faith signed off her portion to Biggie's mother years ago.
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Reply #42 posted 01/17/09 7:49am

Karen71

Drugs did a number on our families and communities.

This was a strong, brillant woman who successfully defended herself in court against the Feds--as a black panther,no less! And you knooooow how badly they wanted to bring them down. I'm sure they pulled out all the stops to convict this woman.

Sad.

In the end, she was strong enough to bounce back from drugs too. But not before her children's lives had been turned upside down.
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Reply #43 posted 01/17/09 7:51am

Karen71

TonyVanDam said:

Cinnie said:

I think Biggie's money goes to Faith Evans and their children?

2pac? Sheeit, he's living in Barbados.


Actually, Biggie's 2 kids are getting pay off of his publishing rights. But Faith signed off her portion to Biggie's mother years ago.

Wrong--partially.

Those children received their rightful inheritance.

Children don't have to wait for publishing or all the rest before they start "getting paid".
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Reply #44 posted 01/17/09 6:52pm

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Karen71 said:

TonyVanDam said:



Actually, Biggie's 2 kids are getting pay off of his publishing rights. But Faith signed off her portion to Biggie's mother years ago.

Wrong--partially.

Those children received their rightful inheritance.

Children don't have to wait for publishing or all the rest before they start "getting paid".


That's what I said the first time. Biggie's kids are getting pay. The money itself is from Biggie's publishing rights
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Reply #45 posted 01/17/09 7:05pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Karen71 said:


Wrong--partially.

Those children received their rightful inheritance.

Children don't have to wait for publishing or all the rest before they start "getting paid".


That's what I said the first time. Biggie's kids are getting pay. The money itself is from Biggie's publishing rights

Have you heard that new mix of One More Chance with Biggie's son CJ on the track?
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #46 posted 01/17/09 7:09pm

Timmy84

I wonder how his eldest daughter is doing...did she and her mother attend the movie premiere?
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Reply #47 posted 01/17/09 7:25pm

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bboy87 said:

TonyVanDam said:



That's what I said the first time. Biggie's kids are getting pay. The money itself is from Biggie's publishing rights

Have you heard that new mix of One More Chance with Biggie's son CJ on the track?


Not yet. Can CJ rap?
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Reply #48 posted 01/17/09 7:35pm

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TonyVanDam said:

bboy87 said:


Have you heard that new mix of One More Chance with Biggie's son CJ on the track?


Not yet. Can CJ rap?

From what I know, it's just adlibs. I tried to find it on Youtube but they muted it mad
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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