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PrintabledaPrettyman said: Timmy84 said: Even though Bob has gone through a rough life, it's hard to believe the 19-year-old in that picture is turning 40 next month!  U're making me feel old...STOP IT!!!! I know... but damn, it's amazing, you know...  You wish time turned back, huh?  [Edited 1/13/09 11:21am] | |
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Timmy84 said: daPrettyman said: U're making me feel old...STOP IT!!!! I know... but damn, it's amazing, you know... You wish time turned back, huh?
[Edited 1/13/09 11:21am] Not turned back, but it's so hard to believe that the album is damn-near 20 years old. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: Timmy84 said: I know... but damn, it's amazing, you know... You wish time turned back, huh?
[Edited 1/13/09 11:21am] Not turned back, but it's so hard to believe that the album is damn-near 20 years old. Yeah it is hard to believe that for real. | |
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junebug18 said: bboy87 said: I'll have to say that Heartbreak is the better album. While I love the hits from Don't Be Cruel, I never listen to the Side B part of the album
 What??!!?? You didn't at least like "I'll Be Good To You" or "Take It Slow"???. I love I'll Be Good To You but other than that, I start listening to the first 6 songs again "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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daPrettyman said: Timmy84 said: I know... but damn, it's amazing, you know... You wish time turned back, huh?
[Edited 1/13/09 11:21am] Not turned back, but it's so hard to believe that the album is damn-near 20 years old. going on 21 already right, aren't these both `88? | |
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Cinnie said: daPrettyman said: Not turned back, but it's so hard to believe that the album is damn-near 20 years old. going on 21 already right, aren't these both `88? Yep, lol. | |
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And it's NOT that hard to believe if you fuck with college students  | |
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Man that ain't even my favorite New Edition album. | |
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bboy87 said: I'll have to say that Heartbreak is the better album. While I love the hits from Don't Be Cruel, I never listen to the Side B part of the album
agree.... 
They seemed to mature (musically) once Johnny joined the group.. | |
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funkpill said: bboy87 said: I'll have to say that Heartbreak is the better album. While I love the hits from Don't Be Cruel, I never listen to the Side B part of the album
agree....
They seemed to mature (musically) once 
Besides, who cares about a musically mature album when 1990's Bell Biv Devoe debut kills it? | |
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Cinnie said: funkpill said: agree....
They seemed to mature (musically) once
Besides, who cares about a musically mature album when 1990's Bell Biv Devoe debut kills it? oh yeah....add Jam & Lewis too my bad
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New Edition's album is better,mainly because of the two songs "If It Isn't Love" and "Competition" 
With the exception of "Every Little Step",I didn't see what was so great about Bobby's album. | |
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bboy87 said: 
1. "Introduction" (1:04) 2. "That's the Way We're Livin'" (Bell/Bivins/DeVoe/Gill/Tresvant) (4:02) 3. "Where It All Started" (Harris/Lewis) (3:31) 4. "If It Isn't Love" (Harris/Lewis) (5:09) 5. "Skit #1" ( :35) 6. "N.E. Heartbreak" (Harris/Lewis) (5:44) 7. "Crucial" (Johnson/Keith) (4:33) 8. "Skit #2" ( :44) 9. "You're Not My Kind of Girl" (Harris/Lewis) (4:01) 10. "Superlady" (Bell/Bivins/DeVoe/Gill/Tresvant) (5:01) 11. "Can You Stand the Rain" (Harris/Lewis) (4:57) 12. "Competition" (Tresvant) (4:28) 13. "Skit #3" ( :38) 14. "I'm Comin' Home" (Harris/Lewis) (5:06) 15. "Boys to Men" (Harris/Lewis) (4:10) VS 
1. "Cruel Prelude" – 0:39 2. "Don't Be Cruel" – 6:52 3. "My Prerogative" – 4:51 4. "Roni" – 5:58 5. "Rock Wit'cha" – 4:49 6. "Every Little Step" – 3:57 7. "I'll Be Good to You" – 4:25 8. "Take It Slow" – 5:22 9. "All Day All Night" – 4:40 10. "I Really Love You Girl" – 5:11 11. "Cruel Reprise" – 0:18 Both LPs were released on June 20,1988. Hands down it's "Heartbreak"! I'm kinda shocked that so many people chose "Don't Be Cruel" over "Heartbreak" seeing that this is The Org and all. I say that because of two words...."JAM AND LEWIS"! To me this is their best work. It's a classic album and it's really the only album out of NE's catalog that really featured Ralph as a genuine soul singer. Jam and Lewis brought out stuff in him that no one knew he had as a vocalist (listen to Crucial and Coming Home). The way Johnny fits into the mix is a beautiful blend and Ricky plays his part well. The vibe they was on along with their new sound (which was a dramatic departure from what they were known for) helped them brothers to successfully reinvent themselves into a real soul group. The production, the songwriting, and the overall vibe was flawless to me at that time and that album still holds up today as a classic if you ask me. Can't knock Bobby though 'cause he did his thing as well...I just thought that Heartbreak was way more soulful and melodic. That was such a good period for all those NE cats; including and especially Bobby... | |
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I think the reason why some people picked BB over NE because BB had some slammin' dance joints on there and he had bigger hits on there. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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jrodndigo said: bboy87 said:
1. "Introduction" (1:04) 2. "That's the Way We're Livin'" (Bell/Bivins/DeVoe/Gill/Tresvant) (4:02) 3. "Where It All Started" (Harris/Lewis) (3:31) 4. "If It Isn't Love" (Harris/Lewis) (5:09) 5. "Skit #1" ( :35) 6. "N.E. Heartbreak" (Harris/Lewis) (5:44) 7. "Crucial" (Johnson/Keith) (4:33) 8. "Skit #2" ( :44) 9. "You're Not My Kind of Girl" (Harris/Lewis) (4:01) 10. "Superlady" (Bell/Bivins/DeVoe/Gill/Tresvant) (5:01) 11. "Can You Stand the Rain" (Harris/Lewis) (4:57) 12. "Competition" (Tresvant) (4:28) 13. "Skit #3" ( :38) 14. "I'm Comin' Home" (Harris/Lewis) (5:06) 15. "Boys to Men" (Harris/Lewis) (4:10) VS
1. "Cruel Prelude" – 0:39 2. "Don't Be Cruel" – 6:52 3. "My Prerogative" – 4:51 4. "Roni" – 5:58 5. "Rock Wit'cha" – 4:49 6. "Every Little Step" – 3:57 7. "I'll Be Good to You" – 4:25 8. "Take It Slow" – 5:22 9. "All Day All Night" – 4:40 10. "I Really Love You Girl" – 5:11 11. "Cruel Reprise" – 0:18 Both LPs were released on June 20,1988. Hands down it's "Heartbreak"! I'm kinda shocked that so many people chose "Don't Be Cruel" over "Heartbreak" seeing that this is The Org and all. I say that because of two words...."JAM AND LEWIS"! To me this is their best work. It's a classic album and it's really the only album out of NE's catalog that really featured Ralph as a genuine soul singer. Jam and Lewis brought out stuff in him that no one knew he had as a vocalist (listen to Crucial and Coming Home). The way Johnny fits into the mix is a beautiful blend and Ricky plays his part well. The vibe they was on along with their new sound (which was a dramatic departure from what they were known for) helped them brothers to successfully reinvent themselves into a real soul group. The production, the songwriting, and the overall vibe was flawless to me at that time and that album still holds up today as a classic if you ask me. Can't knock Bobby though 'cause he did his thing as well...I just thought that Heartbreak was way more soulful and melodic. That was such a good period for all those NE cats; including and especially Bobby... You think this is their best work????? It's good, but it doesn't compare to Alexander O'neal's Hearsay, his debut or Cherelle's Affair projects. This was a good project for them, but doesn't compare to some of their earlier work. I actually liked all of the NE side projects (BBD, Johnny Gill, Bobby Brown, Ralph Tresvant) much better than I liked this album. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: You think this is their best work????? It's good, but it doesn't compare to Alexander O'neal's Hearsay, his debut or Cherelle's Affair projects. This was a good project for them, but doesn't compare to some of their earlier work.
I actually liked all of the NE side projects (BBD, Johnny Gill, Bobby Brown, Ralph Tresvant) much better than I liked this album. I'm sayin! It ain't Jam and Lewis' best work, and it ain't New Edition's best work (hell I like their 1984 self-titled more than this one if you don't want to include side projects). | |
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NE Heartbreak. | |
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daPrettyman said: jrodndigo said: Hands down it's "Heartbreak"! I'm kinda shocked that so many people chose "Don't Be Cruel" over "Heartbreak" seeing that this is The Org and all. I say that because of two words...."JAM AND LEWIS"! To me this is their best work. It's a classic album and it's really the only album out of NE's catalog that really featured Ralph as a genuine soul singer. Jam and Lewis brought out stuff in him that no one knew he had as a vocalist (listen to Crucial and Coming Home). The way Johnny fits into the mix is a beautiful blend and Ricky plays his part well. The vibe they was on along with their new sound (which was a dramatic departure from what they were known for) helped them brothers to successfully reinvent themselves into a real soul group. The production, the songwriting, and the overall vibe was flawless to me at that time and that album still holds up today as a classic if you ask me. Can't knock Bobby though 'cause he did his thing as well...I just thought that Heartbreak was way more soulful and melodic. That was such a good period for all those NE cats; including and especially Bobby... You think this is their best work????? It's good, but it doesn't compare to Alexander O'neal's Hearsay, his debut or Cherelle's Affair projects. This was a good project for them, but doesn't compare to some of their earlier work. I actually liked all of the NE side projects (BBD, Johnny Gill, Bobby Brown, Ralph Tresvant) much better than I liked this album. I know it doesnt compare to their earlier work however they didnt produce WHOLE albums other than Alexander Oneals first 3 and Janet Jacksons (this is pre 90's we are talking)..so in my opinion as albums they produced as a whole I feel Control as their #1 best record and New Edition as their second. It felt collected together as a whole and had a theme...whats missing in their recordings now and days...and Alex only had one album with a theme. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Cinnie said: daPrettyman said: You think this is their best work????? It's good, but it doesn't compare to Alexander O'neal's Hearsay, his debut or Cherelle's Affair projects. This was a good project for them, but doesn't compare to some of their earlier work.
I actually liked all of the NE side projects (BBD, Johnny Gill, Bobby Brown, Ralph Tresvant) much better than I liked this album. I'm sayin! It ain't Jam and Lewis' best work, and it ain't New Edition's best work (hell I like their 1984 self-titled more than this one if you don't want to include side projects). OK, I agree with that then. Sorry, I misunderstood you. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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paisleypark4 said: daPrettyman said: You think this is their best work????? It's good, but it doesn't compare to Alexander O'neal's Hearsay, his debut or Cherelle's Affair projects. This was a good project for them, but doesn't compare to some of their earlier work. I actually liked all of the NE side projects (BBD, Johnny Gill, Bobby Brown, Ralph Tresvant) much better than I liked this album. I know it doesnt compare to their earlier work however they didnt produce WHOLE albums other than Alexander Oneals first 3 and Janet Jacksons (this is pre 90's we are talking)..so in my opinion as albums they produced as a whole I feel Control as their #1 best record and New Edition as their second. It felt collected together as a whole and had a theme...whats missing in their recordings now and days...and Alex only had one album with a theme. They didn't produce all of the trax on Alexander's first 3 albums, nor did they on Janet's first 2. On Alex's Monty and Jellybean are credited. On Janet's Jellybean and Spencer Bernard are credited. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Don't Be Cruel | |
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Both albums are about even IMO. Although, Heartbreak has aged better than DBC. |
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daPrettyman said: paisleypark4 said: I know it doesnt compare to their earlier work however they didnt produce WHOLE albums other than Alexander Oneals first 3 and Janet Jacksons (this is pre 90's we are talking)..so in my opinion as albums they produced as a whole I feel Control as their #1 best record and New Edition as their second. It felt collected together as a whole and had a theme...whats missing in their recordings now and days...and Alex only had one album with a theme. They didn't produce all of the trax on Alexander's first 3 albums, nor did they on Janet's first 2. On Alex's Monty and Jellybean are credited. On Janet's Jellybean and Spencer Bernard are credited. True, but Jam and Lewis are the primary producers of those albums and also the SOS Band's Sands of Time album. Jam and Lewis hit a homerun both lyrically and creatively on the Heartbreak album. |
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MuthaFunka said: I think the reason why some people picked BB over NE because BB had some slammin' dance joints on there and he had bigger hits on there.
yeah that and also.. Bobby was a bad boy, he lived by his own rules.. and despite what folks may say of him now, he was all that back then and the ladies loved that bad boy image he had.. | |
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Flowers2 said: MuthaFunka said: I think the reason why some people picked BB over NE because BB had some slammin' dance joints on there and he had bigger hits on there.
yeah that and also.. Bobby was a bad boy, he lived by his own rules.. and despite what folks may say of him now, he was all that back then and the ladies loved that bad boy image he had.. My ex thought he was the sexiest thang goin' back then. Then around 98, she was like "How could I EVER think his ass was sexy?" nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Flowers2 said: yeah that and also.. Bobby was a bad boy, he lived by his own rules.. and despite what folks may say of him now, he was all that back then and the ladies loved that bad boy image he had.. My ex thought he was the sexiest thang goin' back then. Then around 98, she was like "How could I EVER think his ass was sexy?" yeah the drugs took it all away... | |
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NE owes their career to 3 people: Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, and Johnny Gill. Without them, those dudes were FINISHED. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: NE owes their career to 3 people: Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, and Johnny Gill. Without them, those dudes were FINISHED.
yeah, I was gonna say too.. none of those guys had bad boy images.. | |
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wow... cool to know they
were released on the same day 
I'm voting for Bobby I never heard NE Heartbreak 
(I know... I know) and btw, I listen to the second part of Don't Be Cruel all the time "I Really Love You Girl" is one of my fav songs from childhood I wore that Bobby Brown cassette out because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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MuthaFunka said: NE owes their career to 3 people: Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis, and Johnny Gill. Without them, those dudes were FINISHED.
There it is | |
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