graecophilos said:

"All Night"?

graecophilos said:

That's "Bless His Soul"

How can anyone say 'All Night Dancing' is filler? It's one of the best songs on the album. If anything 'Things I Do For You' is the weakest song. Its an typical average sounding Jackson song, 'All Night Dancing' is funky and original.

Arnotts said:

Right! it has a great live in the studio sound to it.

bboy87 said:

YEAH! That's a nice track too.

graecophilos said:

Great ...track...

Arnotts said:

See,I really love "Things I Do For You".I think it could have been a single.Musically,it reminds me of Earth Wind and Fire's "Magic Mind".

"All Night Dancing" is extremely fast,but kinda repetitive.I think it's the lone filler track,but it's good filler (if that makes any sense,lol).

yeah I like it better than off the wall

alphastreet said:

'Destiny','Off The Wall and 'Triumph' is an amazing trilogy of albums.

SoulAlive said:

I think Destiny, Off The Wall, Triumph and Thrille are an amazing quatrology of albums.
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I think Triumph was the better album...

This is a great thread, I didn't know anybody paid attention to the Jackson's for their musical efforts anymore. I get so pissed off with so called Michael Jackson fans who totally ignore the fact the he with his brothers wrote some great songs together in a short span of time. Most of them let life get the best of them, but I will always think of them in good light because of those Epic Years, when they formed Peacock Productions. The "Can You Feel It" video was one of the most innovative clips of it's time. Destiny and Triumph are equally as good to me.

Oh, I never said it was a sellout album in terms of not having any good R&B on it. I just said it's too diverse because it goes off in too many different directions. Every song on the album is good (except for "Human Nature"), but each individual song still isn't as strong or funky as anything he did on the "Destiny" or "Triumph" albums with his brothers or even his own "Off The Wall" album.

steelyd said:

I know what you mean. Those horrible MJ fans who think he looks still great and that Unbreakable and Earth Song would be the quintessentiel Michael Jackson sound. On the other hand they don't care about the Jackson's stuff even though Mj co-wrote most of the songs

Honestly, I prefer Triumph over Destiny BUT Destiny is VERY close to being #1. The only song I don't care for is "Bless His Soul" but even that is cool. I happen to love "All Night Dancin." That song is HOT! I should play that again.
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vainandy said:

No. WTF about 'The Girl Is Mine'?

That sucks. No redeeming features, apart from the conversation at the end. That makes me have to hold onto my nutsack, cause i nearly laugh my bollocks off every time!

Oh hell, I forgot about "The Girl Is Mine". That one's pretty bad also. I still like it better than "Human Nature" though.

Marrk said:

it's cheesy but it has a lovely melody! I wonder what John Lennon would have said about that.
Probably Paul wouldn't have worked with MJ in 1981 if John would have lived...
I know Yoko had a copy of Off The Wall in the Dakota office, so John should have known the album too.

graecophilos said:

Maybe not Unbreakable, which is about as generic as they come, but forgive me for thinking that there is more than one "quintessential" Michael Jackson sound. The man's career spans 40 years, and different sounds epitomise him at different stages of his life. Motown stuff was playful, optimistic, naive. 1980's was ambitious, sexy, exploratory. 1990's was angry, alone, maddening. And, okay, let's just ignore everything post 1998.

My point being that you have to look at all the music to find the "quintessential Michael Jackson". You don't have to like all of it, but it's still there.

That being said, I do prefer 80's Jacksons to 80's MJ solo. Thriller is a good record, but I can't listen to it on loop for hours like I can with The Jacksons or Triumph.

graecophilos said:

This is one thing I realised early when I became a fan- the man had far more music than just Off The Wall, Thriller and Bad (when I became a fan, that's all there was in his adult solo catalog). Destiny was my first Jacksons album and I collected all the Jacksons albums after that.

I found while MJ's solo harmonies and backing vocals are always good, the harmonies and backings he did with his brothers were so beautiful- they had a completely different character- like they were meant to sing together. And write together. They had a wonderful chemistry. There's also a sadness about Michael's voice on all the Jacksons records. Destiny is just amazing - it was like the Jacksons "coming of age" record- one that came a little too late

vainandy said:

Ok,I gotcha

"Human Nature" is one of my Top 3 favorites from the album (the other two are "Billie Jean" and "Lady In My Life").I think these three songs have aged incredbily well.

It's certainly my favourite of theirs.

graecophilos said:

I guess I'm one of the few people who likes "The Girl Is Mine" I also like "Girlfriend" on OTW (another track that many dislike).I like Michael's melodic midtempo numbers,with the breezy melodies.

I prefer Triumph.
I think thats there best album

SoulAlive said:

The demo version owns the released version

I also like destiny, OTW and then triumph being a marriage of the two, the jacksons were at their creative musical peak here. Destiny is my favourite from the 3 though.

This has been a good thread.

I prefer Triumph, but was pleasantly surprised with Destiny the last time I played it. I tend to forget that album when I'm in a MJ mood. But "Bless His Soul," "That's What You Get" "Blame It On The Boogie" are great songs.

Marrk said:

LOL, when i saw the word "human nature", I was like WTF

Human nature is maybe the best track on the album, One of the prettiest melodies i have ever heard....

but everybody has his/her own taste of music i guess

Marrk said:

I know this is going to sound really sick but the new remix of 'The Girl is Mine' with that guy from Black Eyed Peas has actually made me like the song....alot.

graecophilos said:

Somehow, I don't believe it because wasn't MJ very friendly with them. John and Yoko's son appeared in "Moonwalker". Besides, why would John be so influential on Paul's friendship with him.
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