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graecophilos said: How could anyone name the Beatles??
Exactly.  Anyone who fails to recognize the genius of The Beatles must be oblivious to great art. I don't care what anyone has to say about that. They were amazing. To be able to experiment with different sounds and production techniques and still make it catchy to the ear and be successful with it is genius in itself. Which is also why I love Prince. 
Nirvana, on the other hand...oh God.  I don't even know why critics are comparing them to The Beatles. I respect them and they were good for their time and whatever, but to say that they were up there with The Beatles? Come on. They were just a punk band that got lucky if you ask me. You got these British magazines calling Nirvana "the last great American band" as if nothing ever came out of the U.S. after them. And then Rolling Stone magazine had the nerve to put Kurt Cobain over Frank Zappa, Eddie Hazel, and Jack White and push him up to the top 20 on their list of "100 greatest guitarists".  NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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Cinnie said: bboy87 said: Have you seen that documentary about them? I discovered a true dislike for them....except for Joey, who seemed like a gentle soul those other ones, could all eat a bag of baby dicks Never watched it.  Their music sounded the same Dee Dee was probably racist (when he talked about his ill fated rap career, he said "I'm not colored" "I'm not a negro") Johnny Ramone was a complete jerk and was pretty unlikeable Ya know, I won't say they can eat a bag of baby dicks(except Dee Dee)' I will say that their music sounded the same and I don't see much artistic growth from them "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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NWF said: graecophilos said: How could anyone name the Beatles??
Exactly. Anyone who fails to recognize the genius of The Beatles must be oblivious to great art. I don't care what anyone has to say about that. They were amazing. To be able to experiment with different sounds and production techniques and still make it catchy to the ear and be successful with it is genius in itself. Which is also why I love Prince.
Nirvana, on the other hand...oh God. I don't even know why critics are comparing them to The Beatles. I respect them and they were good for their time and whatever, but to say that they were up there with The Beatles? Come on. They were just a punk band that got lucky if you ask me. You got these British magazines calling Nirvana "the last great American band" as if nothing ever came out of the U.S. after them. And then Rolling Stone magazine had the nerve to put Kurt Cobain over Frank Zappa, Eddie Hazel, and Jack White and push him up to the top 20 on their list of "100 greatest guitarists". How can you compare Nirvana to the freakin' Beatles?! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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This list is funny, but everyone has an opinion.
What the Beatles & Hendrix did in their short period of time respectively is more than most artists have done in a lifetime. The Beatles repackaged American rock and made it better through each album thru. Hendrix pushed the envelope farther than any singular artist in the history of rock thru sonic experimentation with the electric guitar. I won't even get started on Bowie or James Brown. Overrated artists are the majority artists of the MTV/video generation. These artists were competing in a diluted era where you had a few real musicians and where substance lost to style. The most overrated by far is Janet Jackson. Never understood her appeal before the Superbowl incident. Granted, she had a few catchy songs, but she gets too much hype for being an average vocalist. Overrated HOF: Billy Joel Nirvana Tupac Biggie Britney Spears Jessica Simpson MOre to name later "Old man's gotta be the old man. Fish has got to be the fish." | |
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bboy87 said: NWF said: Exactly. Anyone who fails to recognize the genius of The Beatles must be oblivious to great art. I don't care what anyone has to say about that. They were amazing. To be able to experiment with different sounds and production techniques and still make it catchy to the ear and be successful with it is genius in itself. Which is also why I love Prince.
Nirvana, on the other hand...oh God. I don't even know why critics are comparing them to The Beatles. I respect them and they were good for their time and whatever, but to say that they were up there with The Beatles? Come on. They were just a punk band that got lucky if you ask me. You got these British magazines calling Nirvana "the last great American band" as if nothing ever came out of the U.S. after them. And then Rolling Stone magazine had the nerve to put Kurt Cobain over Frank Zappa, Eddie Hazel, and Jack White and push him up to the top 20 on their list of "100 greatest guitarists". How can you compare Nirvana to the freakin' Beatles?! I'm not, but other people like critics and other die-hard fans are. NEW WAVE FOREVER: SLAVE TO THE WAVE FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE. | |
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lascantas said: Madonna, Janet Jackson, Britney Spears!
There I said it.  But this is only my humble opinion, and I do not know that much about music, so do not get mad at me.
However, in their defense, they are more talented than a lot of people, so I guess it is all relative. And they are entertainers so..... i think you are confusing popular with overrated, all 3 of these women has been accused of not being able to sing at all | |
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Harlepolis said: Cinnie said: And yet, we have yet to see anyone as intensely popular as Elvis... damn near every single SIDE he put out was a hit. Have you see a list of his singles in a Billboard history book, where they bold the big hits? And all of his hits are bolded? And it's a whole page of them?
Its not the fact that he was popular that made him overrated, its that "King Of Rock n' Roll" shit. "King Of Rock N' Roll",,,,me blooming arse!  right, and i just dont see where he was that great at nothing...he didnt have a great voice, he wasnt a good dancer, he was a terrible actor and he was the original swagga jacker | |
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NWF said: bboy87 said: How can you compare Nirvana to the freakin' Beatles?! I'm not, but other people like critics and other die-hard fans are. That's what I meant. I know you weren't because 1.You have great taste in music 2.You have common sense  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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PricelessHo said: Harlepolis said: Carey
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Ugot2shakesumthin said: RUN DMC somebody hit the nail on the head.
When i was a kid listening to hip hop and rap we would always skip these guys,yes they are the onces that entertaiment shows focused on, but in the street, the were just a limp water downed version of hip hop for the masses and the white kids, kinda like Puff Daddy and Will Smith Comparing Run Dmc to Puff doody and Will Smith is like comparing the Kobe Bryant to Kenyon Dooling. Don't laugh at my funk
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I would kind of agree with tina turner. I'll admit i like some of her
songs with ike from the late 60's and early 70's but i was really not impressed with her as a solo artist in the 80's. Private Dancer just was not that good to me. Don't laugh at my funk
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phunkdaddy said: I would kind of agree with tina turner. I'll admit i like some of her
songs with ike from the late 60's and early 70's but i was really not impressed with her as a solo artist in the 80's. Private Dancer just was not that good to me. Private Dancer was not that great, but it was genius the way they marketed. Come on, wasn't she damn-near 50 when she did that album? **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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PricelessHo said: Harlepolis said: Carey
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I love seeing the pissed off Mimi  | |
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did some name people like Madonna, Justin, Scarey and Shitney because they thing they're from the past or did they just misread the thread?? | |
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lowkey said: lascantas said: Madonna, Janet Jackson, Britney Spears!
There I said it. But this is only my humble opinion, and I do not know that much about music, so do not get mad at me.
However, in their defense, they are more talented than a lot of people, so I guess it is all relative. And they are entertainers so..... i think you are confusing popular with overrated, all 3 of these women has been accused of not being able to sing at all This is true! But then if they cannot sing, and they are music artists, then why are they popular?
Besides, I think they have pleasant enough voices.. for me, it's more that they are a product(??)--like it takes a "creative team" for their success. As I said, though I really do not know that much about music so..  Maybe all performers would be nothing without a "creative team." I have no idea. | |
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Cinnie said: Oh just stop it already!
This thread  I know, everyone is a critic Feel Good, Feel Better, Feel Wonderful | |
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AlexdeParis said: Ugot2shakesumthin said: RUN DMC somebody hit the nail on the head.
When i was a kid listening to hip hop and rap we would always skip these guys,yes they are the onces that entertaiment shows focused on, but in the street, the were just a limp water downed version of hip hop for the masses and the white kids, kinda like Puff Daddy and Will Smith Not where I lived. You can't have much more street cred than Run-DMC had.ok... I grew up in the pj's in Brooklyn and Run DMC was the shit  | |
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Chris Brown .....meeh... Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records. | |
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Shitney Ass Motherfucking Houston Andy is a four letter word. | |
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The Beatles
Elvis Mariah Carey (current) Whitney Houston Madonna (current) 2pac ALICIA KEYS (current) Frank Sinatra Miles Davis Benny Goodman | |
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Graycap23 said:
2pac You ain't lying! Definately overrated! Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Madonna and U2. I can see what people like about U2, they created some experimental albums. But to this day I never figured out why Madonna was and still is so popular. Bad singing voice, childish lyrics and too much controversy to cover up her bad act.  | |
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BT11 said: Madonna and U2. I can see what people like about U2, they created some experimental albums. But to this day I never figured out why Madonna was and still is so popular. Bad singing voice, childish lyrics and too much controversy to cover up her bad act.
Like someone mentioned that like Elvis, she has the media behind her. | |
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there's no comparison Elvis had a great voice Madonna is a talentless hag [Edited 1/12/09 8:56am] | |
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RnBAmbassador said: Tina Turner, she never was a good dancer or singer, the dancing was like a wild woman ready to be put to the rituals of female circumcision Well, you're wrong about her singing. She was a fantastic singer, but as for the rest, I totally agree. That whole wild woman of the jungle routine was a little bit too pantomime. Unfortunately Beyonce seems to have based her whole act on Tina's jungle savage schtick combined with 00s booty shaking. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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NWF said: graecophilos said: How could anyone name the Beatles??
Exactly. Anyone who fails to recognize the genius of The Beatles must be oblivious to great art. I don't care what anyone has to say about that. They were amazing. To be able to experiment with different sounds and production techniques and still make it catchy to the ear and be successful with it is genius in itself. Which is also why I love Prince. You have to remember that most people who call these legends overrated know absolutely nothing about their music. They often only know one or two songs from said artist and will form their entire judgement based on this hazy impression gleaned from casual glimpses. When you realise that then you can understand some of the colossal ignorance that gets manifested online. Of course, there is also just such a thing as bad taste. 
With that said, my list would feature..... Elvis Presley Janis Joplin David Bowie (I respect him, and think "Life On Mars" is pure genius, but for the most part, greatness only came in small fragments from him. There are many artists ranked below him, like Prince, who were far better songwriters and performers) “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Dewrede said: ^
there's no comparison Elvis had a great voice Madonna is a talentless hag [Edited 1/12/09 8:56am] Not really. He was a better singer than Madonna for sure, but his style was very artificial and affected. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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phunkdaddy said: I would kind of agree with tina turner. I'll admit i like some of her
songs with ike from the late 60's and early 70's but i was really not impressed with her as a solo artist in the 80's. Private Dancer just was not that good to me. She recorded plenty of great songs in the '80s. Off the top of my head..... Rock & Roll Widow Help The Best Be Tender With Me Baby I Don't Wanna Lose You Private Dancer Great recordings of great songs. I'm still dying to hear her version of Prince's "Let's Pretend We're Married". “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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