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PrintableTimmy84 said: NaughtyKitty said: Yeah that's what I thought, but I thought I'd double check. Thanks Timmy!  Wow, so Beyonce dropped outta school and never got her GED?  What was the last grade she completed?I heard 10th grade.  Not Miss Upper Crust!!!  | |
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Timmy84 said: JackieBlue said: And again I say 
Did she leave to start rehearsing with her girl group? Did it take up so much time that she couldn't finish school? Or was there some other reason? Might've took so much time off the schedule. I don't know if Mathew and Tina even hired tutors like Joe and Katherine did. Well, she had enough time to date Marques Houston  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Here's the better case:
Who would win in a fight: Joe or Matthew? Joe would beat the shit out of Matthew | |
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BlaqueKnight said: Again, this is another issue that sounds like it should be resolved in a wrestling ring filled with jello. I'd pay to see it.
 this is one Janet performance that I would pay to see! | |
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LiquidGold said: wonder505 said: the majority of their big hits did not come from janet, it came from working with her, there's a difference. jj and tl has done great music with other artists whereas janet has been unable to do any good songs since she stopped working with jj and tl, that says a lot. i'm not sure how she busted through any doors. janet is not a very good singer and i highly doubt, especially back in the day, that she would have gotten a record deal or given one more chance if she didn't come from a famous family. i give janet much respect for her incredible success but in my opinion i still believe that she was very lucky to have all the pieces in place to make it happen, the family name, two excellent producers and incorporating signature dance moves in her performances (which i still say was influenced by her brother). its not a diss to janet, that's just how i see it. Jimmy and Terry's hits without Janet are slim. There's was a tribute to them many years ago and there was a dance performance going through their catalog of hits. Most of the song where from Janet's albums You gotta be kidding.Jam and Lewis had NUMEROUS big hits for other artists besides Janet.They were,arguably,the biggest R&B production team of the 80s. "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle "Human" by the Human League "Just Be Good To Me" by the SOS Band "Fake" by Alexander O'Neal "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition "Tender Love" by Force MDs Surely you're not saying that these songs (and others) are "slim"?  | |
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SoulAlive said: LiquidGold said: Jimmy and Terry's hits without Janet are slim. There's was a tribute to them many years ago and there was a dance performance going through their catalog of hits. Most of the song where from Janet's albums You gotta be kidding.Jam and Lewis had NUMEROUS big hits for other artists besides Janet.They were,arguably,the biggest R&B production team of the 80s. "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle "Human" by the Human League "Just Be Good To Me" by the SOS Band "Fake" by Alexander O'Neal "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition "Tender Love" by Force MDs Surely you're not saying that these songs (and others) are "slim"? Not to mention that many of their songs with other artists sound extremely similar to their songs with Janet. Check out "Sentimental", which they wrote and produced for Alexander O' Neal. It would fit on Rhythm Nation perfectly. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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SoulAlive said: LiquidGold said: Jimmy and Terry's hits without Janet are slim. There's was a tribute to them many years ago and there was a dance performance going through their catalog of hits. Most of the song where from Janet's albums You gotta be kidding.Jam and Lewis had NUMEROUS big hits for other artists besides Janet.They were,arguably,the biggest R&B production team of the 80s. "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle [b]"Human" by the Human League "Just Be Good To Me" by the SOS Band "Fake" by Alexander O'Neal "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition "Tender Love" by Force MDs[/b] Surely you're not saying that these songs (and others) are "slim"? JJ and TL did that song? I fucking LOVE that song! I totally didn't know that. | |
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MuthaFunka said: missfee said: no doubt...Joe would beat Matt with a guitar, spit on him while he's on the ground and then say "Bitch you betta have money in 2 hours or i'm pimping yo' daughters..."
[Edited 1/11/09 12:06pm]  co  !!!!! | |
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SCNDLS said: missfee said: no doubt...Joe would beat Matt with a guitar, spit on him while he's on the ground and then say "Bitch you betta have money in 2 hours or i'm pimping yo' daughters..."
[Edited 1/11/09 12:06pm] Too late, Matt already did that.  BWAHAHAHA!! DAMN!!! | |
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ScarletScandal said: SoulAlive said: You gotta be kidding.Jam and Lewis had NUMEROUS big hits for other artists besides Janet.They were,arguably,the biggest R&B production team of the 80s. "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle [b]"Human" by the Human League "Just Be Good To Me" by the SOS Band "Fake" by Alexander O'Neal "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition "Tender Love" by Force MDs[/b] Surely you're not saying that these songs (and others) are "slim"? JJ and TL did that song? I fucking LOVE that song! I totally didn't know that.Didn't they also produce "Criticize" for Alexander O' Neal, which was also a huge hit (at least here in the UK)? “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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bboy87 said: missfee said: no doubt...Joe would beat Matt with a guitar, spit on him while he's on the ground and then say "Bitch you betta have money in 2 hours or i'm pimping yo' daughters..."
[Edited 1/11/09 12:06pm] Matthew didn't get the steps right so Joe made him a get a switch off the tree
I think Joe's a cool dude. Matthew and Tina seem like they're heads of a factory machine which is void of a personality and soul..... hey, that describes Beyonce perfectly
and Solange seems to have a stank attitude She sure the fuck do. I don't even know that chick but I have a feeling we wouldn't click at ALL. She seems to be ghetto as hell for someone who isn't from there. | |
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wonder505 said: VoicesCarry said: That's not what I'm telling you. I'm telling you that MJ didn't create the dance concept ergo Janet wasn't "borrowing" anything from him. MJ's success made it a lot easier for similar artists to emerge in his wake, however. Voicescarry we will never agree on this. IMO MJ layed the ground work for Janet dance wise though she made it her own, her name is what got her a record deal and getting the chance to work with JJ and TL which in my opinion was the reason for her success. Nothing will ever change my mind on this so we will just have to disagree. i just don't see janet in the same light that you do and never will. but i do appreciate her success and was even willing to pay for the rockwitu tour concert which i never got to see cuz it was cancelled. [Edited 1/11/09 15:20pm] Seriously. If she was Janet Smith with no famous family members she would have never gotten to record the first two albums that flopped. Terry and Jimmy worked with her because of her family pedigree. Just so happens that she's a good dancer and has good stage presence which also helped get her over. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I just saw Ifsixwuz9 and wanted to say hello. 
Oh and I agree with you and wonder bout Janet. I said it years ago. | |
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It's so weird how janet fans act like the people she was with were nothing without her, though Rene is a given.
Jimmy & Terry produced so many tracks in the early 80's, and most were more melodic and smooth than Janet's stuff. | |
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alphastreet said: It's so weird how janet fans act like the people she was with were nothing without her, though Rene is a given.
Yeah, that is a bit of a surprise. I'm more of a fan of the stuff they did for other artists than what they did for Janet.Jimmy & Terry produced so many tracks in the early 80's, and most were more melodic and smooth than Janet's stuff. | |
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SoulAlive said: LiquidGold said: Jimmy and Terry's hits without Janet are slim. There's was a tribute to them many years ago and there was a dance performance going through their catalog of hits. Most of the song where from Janet's albums You gotta be kidding.Jam and Lewis had NUMEROUS big hits for other artists besides Janet.They were,arguably,the biggest R&B production team of the 80s. "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle "Human" by the Human League "Just Be Good To Me" by the SOS Band "Fake" by Alexander O'Neal "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition "Tender Love" by Force MDs Surely you're not saying that these songs (and others) are "slim"? If you look at the whole catalog of J&L (Wiki has it), what were considered hits with other artists compared to what they had with Janet were slim, especially after they started working with her Under certain circumstances, urgent circumstances, desperate circumstances, profanity provides a relief denied even to prayer. | |
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SoulAlive said: LiquidGold said: Jimmy and Terry's hits without Janet are slim. There's was a tribute to them many years ago and there was a dance performance going through their catalog of hits. Most of the song where from Janet's albums You gotta be kidding.Jam and Lewis had NUMEROUS big hits for other artists besides Janet.They were,arguably,the biggest R&B production team of the 80s. "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle "Human" by the Human League "Just Be Good To Me" by the SOS Band "Fake" by Alexander O'Neal "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition "Tender Love" by Force MDs Surely you're not saying that these songs (and others) are "slim"? you are right they were big R&B producers, they got their crossover hits with janet,nobody is saying jam n lewis wasnt successful without janet but anybody can see they had their biggest success with her projects and its not even close. im not good with stats so somebody please post all the #1 singles and albums jam n lewis has produced on the hot 100/200 charts and lets see how many do not belong to janet | |
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SoulAlive said: LiquidGold said: Jimmy and Terry's hits without Janet are slim. There's was a tribute to them many years ago and there was a dance performance going through their catalog of hits. Most of the song where from Janet's albums You gotta be kidding.Jam and Lewis had NUMEROUS big hits for other artists besides Janet.They were,arguably,the biggest R&B production team of the 80s. "I Didn't Mean To Turn You On" by Cherelle "Human" by the Human League "Just Be Good To Me" by the SOS Band "Fake" by Alexander O'Neal "If It Isn't Love" by New Edition "Tender Love" by Force MDs Surely you're not saying that these songs (and others) are "slim"? And of those, only one was a major crossover success on the Hot 100 ("Human"), although "If It Isn't Love" went Top 10. Sure, they're classics, but smashes on the level of Janet's singles? Certainly not. [Edited 1/14/09 23:49pm] | |
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Vendetta1 said: I just saw Ifsixwuz9 and wanted to say hello.
Oh and I agree with you and wonder bout Janet. I said it years ago. Hi. No offense but who are you?  Please org note me because I suspect you used to post under another screen name a while back.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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